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Prognosis for SE

We were down at Red Sage Integrity Veterinary Partners last week for more rehab work with SE. After the enormous disappointment with the Orthopedic Department at Colo State University, I reached out to these specialists to help SE with some disc issues. She is now on a pretty structured protocol of Physical Therapy exercises. But ball fetching and tugs are out for her. Sadly, she loves both. I wasted $3000. treating SE with everything but an MRI (which is what I went down to CSU for). Treated her for lots of issues that I felt were irrelevant. I just needed an mri done. After 6 months they concurred with me that an MRI was needed. Their facility wanted over $4000. for the mri. I had made arrangements for someplace else but I was sick and they just knew it was covid. But I did tell them I was under a drs care at that time and all that they could come up with was bad bronchitis. Anyway, mri didn't get done and maybe that is for the best Doug told me not to s
sink a bunch of money into her. So I didn't. My dog is done competing in obedience. Now she is a couch potatoe. She still loves to mow with me. I hate that our goals got sidetracked. I know she would have accomplished the top 20. Now I take care of her. I might get another dog later although it probably won't be a Doberman. The health issues that I have struggled with on my last two dobies, have litterally taken too many holes out of my heart. She is still so happy, living up to her name that Jacque gave her. Kansa's Happy Planet Index. She is so beautiful and so smart. But, she is my heart dog. I have to be prepared for the ups and downs that I know are coming.

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I might get another dog later although it probably won't be a Doberman. The health issues that I have struggled with on my last two dobies, have litterally taken too many holes out of my heart.
I know what you are going through, four Dobes over the past 30 years have caused me to say the samething, I just love the breed so much I can't stay away.

Unfortunately the health problems associated with Dobermans is common throughout the purebred dog world. It is a result of the inbreeding used to produce specific breed characteristics. Isolating or concentrating certain genes to achieve the desired result also isolates or concentrates undesirable traits.
Health wise a good old fashioned Heinz 57 mutt is probably your best bet. Preferably a rescue !!!
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What does SE stand for?
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Oh, duh, I see it. Sorry. I must have missed any previous post regarding her. What kind of disc issues? If you have info in a previous post you can refer me and I can read it there. I am so sorry to hear of her problems. My daughter and I experienced disc problems with her first Doberman and I wondered if it might be similar.

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Having a dobe can just rip out your heart--they have SO many health problems. My last two kinda burned me out with their problems too, some "environmental"(Capri with recurring obstructions, and a strained ligament in her wrist that we couldn't get to heal) so I guess that would be my fault more than their breeding, but also some inherited (Kip with severe allergies and a number of bloating episodes, plus a little back trouble and the classic dobe heart disease [mild for him, at least]) Of course, Hairy Dog (Australian Cattle Dog mix, for those of you who don't know him) is still fairly young, but it has been so different having him in terms of vet visits. He just goes in for an annual and his shots, basically. And I don't feel like I have to watch him constantly to look for tiny symptoms of something brewing which might call for emergency vet attention.

And he actually can sit out in the yard for a little while without insisting on my company, and doesn't sit on my feet nearly as much as the dobes did, which can be refreshing sometimes. I might be through with dobes myself too--though once my burnout goes away, I might be back in the market.

They are such wonderful dogs with such unique (in my opinion) personalities--I miss that. But I don't miss dealing with the medical issues, or the pain that caused to my pocket book.

Give your girl a hug and a kiss from me. I guess couch potato existence come to all of us eventually, but it would have been nicer if she could have held it off a little longer.
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Sorry to hear this Sandy , When we moved to this farm in 91 , shortly after , we lost our girl - Wife said that's it , she could not take any more heart break , to tell the truth - I felt about the same way . Then in 2000 we heard of a very good litter , Wife asked me , what do you think ? It had been almost 10 years without a Doberman in our house , I told her , If we go look at them , we will come home with one and we did , LOL After a few days , Wife said wasn't that the dumbest thing we ever did ? ( not getting one sooner ) It was , there still has been heart break here - yet the joy and love they bring to this house is unbelievably , There is never a day I come in from the farm to be meet at the gate by a Doberman in the play bow , jumping on the gate , little tail wagging a hundred miles a hour and then me trying to get in threw the gate - LOL

I have no idea what the future holds for us down the road - but we both agreed , as long as we can give them great care and there needs - then there will be one in this house .

Give SE a big hug and ear rub for me Sandy
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Ah--the problems that any dog can bring you along with their furry selves, their doggy smiles and endless joy just being in your company.

I got my first Doberman, my first show dog in 1959--and in return I ended up with a breed I tried to divest myself of several times over the years.

I wouldn't trade my experience with the Afghan Hound (Sam--a plain Jane name for a very fancy looking dog.) But he turned out to be much more Doberman like than I'd have ever believed I put a CD on that dog when he became a failed show dog and was trained through open but a divorce intervened--just there was stuff that happens. And Sam went to a couple who adored him and was part of the decore in their Beverly Hills furniture gallery. And Sam went down the street to the groomer twice a week and lured customers in for them.

And I certainly would not trade my experience with Australian Shepherds like Henry my black tri who raised and civilized several Dobe puppies .

And clearly even my plan to not have any more dogs when my lovely fawn boy, Toad went where the good dogs go, went to hell when the house was unbelievably empty and I discovered that one of the cats had evidently chosen Toad as 'his' dog. We didn't last a week without a Dobe--a friend, a breeder who had a not quite six month old black male she hadn't intended to keep but he was available so I borrowed him--he'll be a year next week--so much for getting out of Dobes,

But I've had better luck pretty much than some of you guys have had--so I've given up evidently the set of the stars has deemed that I'm going to have one Dobe after another until I can't have any more.

So now in the day and age of COVID-19--I tell you--wash yer hands, stay away from crowds, pet the cats and hug the dogs and hope for better tomorrows and like they keep reminding us--we really all in this together...

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I'm so sorry to hear it Sandy. Sending hugs your way.

As an aside... It's infuriating when vets do that. Same thing happened to someone else I knew. Spent months blowing money with a team of supposed experts... who couldn't figure out the problem. Thousands of dollars later she switched to another vet and within days they diagnosed a lymphoma of the litter but by then it was too late, so her girl was PTS.


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What does SE stand for?
SE stands for nothing. It came to me before I had ever seen her. Just popped into my head, honestly. And it couldn't fit her better. When a friend and I picked up my second Doberman, I had her named before I saw her too. Emily and that fit her too. My friend admonished me all the way across Wyoming when I went to pick her up because how could I name her without seeing her. Her breeders met us is Evanston that night. I have to laugh when I give her information out. They ask me how I pronounce her name: S E. Then they ask how I spell it: S E. And we laugh because everyone overthinks her name.
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Ah--the problems that any dog can bring you along with their furry selves, their doggy smiles and endless joy just being in your company.

I got my first Doberman, my first show dog in 1959--and in return I ended up with a breed I tried to divest myself of several times over the years.

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But I've had better luck pretty much than some of you guys have had--so I've given up evidently the set of the stars has deemed that I'm going to have one Dobe after another until I can't have any more.

So now in the day and age of COVID-19--I tell you--wash yer hands, stay away from crowds, pet the cats and hug the dogs and hope for better tomorrows and like they keep reminding us--we really all in this together...

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Odd that you had Aussies. We raised them for awhile. My bitch had surgery when she was 15 and then lived another 2 years. The male was 15 when he was PTS. Smart dogs too. If another dog is in the stars, it will probably be an Aussie. Although they have their issues too.
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