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Fluid in ear canal, from posting.

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I have already read some helpful threads about what I think might be the problem with Bishop's ear! I'm posting this to see if what I show you, might look like an infection in the ear. I have posted his ears since last Sunday, taking the post down every 4 days. Yesterday I notice he was sensitive on one ear a little more than the other and took down his posts early. I will post pics of both ears so that you can see what I saw. One ear is nice an dry after cleaning it up and letting it air out for a few hours, but the other ear seems a little redder and swollen somewhat with some liquid build up. Small amount, but still seems like it might be the start of something.
He has had no posts in all morning, he isn't scratching, and doesn't seem to be in discomfort. I called my Vet's office and made an appointment for Monday at 2p.m.
I figure might as well be proactive now, and get this taken cared of. I can post again after it all looks better, and I will inquire about a couple medicine I heard where useful to see if I can get a prescription. Otomax, and Ket flush? Any thoughts on these?
I don't smell much of a difference in either ear, it smells like wax.
Most important is for his ears to heal up nicely, and then I know posting will need to be done the right way. My thoughts: I should be more careful in how deep I put in the post!
I appreciate any input!
Thanks!!
p.s: It is hard to get pics inside the ears. If you're able to zoom in it's easier to see!

This is the right ear that has some fluid:

Ear with fluid
Ear with fluid 2

This is a pic of his left ear which looks normal:

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Hi Cindy...

Good for you for making a vet appt.

Can't really tell anything from the pics.

In any case, I generally put a couple drops of Ottomax in the canal of each ear when reposting. I do it to proactively reduce the possibility of infection or irritation while posting. It is only available by prescription.

Here is a link to a description of the product:

https://www.merck-animal-health-usa....tic-Ointment/1

You might ask Bishop's vet about it.

Best to you and your boy

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Hey guys,
I have already read some helpful threads about what I think might be the problem with Bishop's ear! I'm posting this to see if what I show you, might look like an infection in the ear. I have posted his ears since last Sunday, taking the post down every 4 days. Yesterday I notice he was sensitive on one ear a little more than the other and took down his posts early. I will post pics of both ears so that you can see what I saw. One ear is nice an dry after cleaning it up and letting it air out for a few hours, but the other ear seems a little redder and swollen somewhat with some liquid build up. Small amount, but still seems like it might be the start of something.
He has had no posts in all morning, he isn't scratching, and doesn't seem to be in discomfort. I called my Vet's office and made an appointment for Monday at 2p.m.
I figure might as well be proactive now, and get this taken cared of. I can post again after it all looks better, and I will inquire about a couple medicine I heard where useful to see if I can get a prescription. Otomax, and Ket flush? Any thoughts on these?
I don't smell much of a difference in either ear, it smells like wax.
Most important is for his ears to heal up nicely, and then I know posting will need to be done the right way. My thoughts: I should be more careful in how deep I put in the post!
I appreciate any input!
Thanks!

I'm not including the pictures of the ears--but I'll answer the questions about the prescriptions you wondered about.

Yes you should be able to get your vet to prescribe Otomax or the Keta-flush.

Kim is the one who taught me about using Otomax (or any other multipurpose ear med.) You know that little piece of cotton on the bottom of the post--before you plug the post into the puppy's ear put a couple of drops of Otomax on that pad--that's what it's for as well as providing a little cushion at the bottom of the post. Keta-flush is a good general purpose ear cleaner. Some dogs have ears that get dirtier than others. I've got a different ear cleaner I use (also prescription but the Keta product is a little better)--as needed but since I haven't had a dog who was prone to infections or who had unusual wax production in some time I don't have occasion to use ear cleaners. Because I post ears on other peoples puppies I do use the Otomax an any puppy I'm posting ears on as described above.

You should be careful to be sure the post is as deep as possible in the puppy's ear. If you don't get it all the way down to the bottom of the canal it will move in the ear and become an irritant. Sometimes finding liquid in the base of the ear is because it's been raining and the posting has gotten wet enough to drain into the ear canal. And heavens knows it's been raining enough--I'm just down the line in Portland from you so that's another possibility. You really can't put a post too far down in the ear. A dogs ear canal goes down and takes a right hand turn before it reaches the ear drum--you'd have a hard time if you were "trying" to push a post down too far because of that turn. So you want to push it--kind of screw it in to get it all the way down. Your vet may tell you to leave that ear unposted for a few days to make sure there isn't anything going on and then go back to posting. And yes, you can post one ear and leave the other unposted.

If it's raining try to protect the ears with something (even a plastic bag will work but those dumb looking plastic rain hoods which are intended to protect hair do's work really well and are easy to take on and off. But if you have had the puppy out and it's raining (I know sometimes it's impossible to avoid rain in the PNW) you might have have to take the ears down, dry them and repost them.

Infected ears usually smell--noticeably. Taking them down was appropriate and you may have had a ear just starting to be infected. Getting the Otomax and posting with a couple of dabs of Otomax on the cotton pad should stop that from happening. Good catch...

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Thank you John, and thank you dobebug! It's good to hear from both of you. The rain here is quite a drag, because you are quite right that it's hard not to let them get somewhat wet. lol I will try anything to keep the ears dry so I'm buying the rain hood! Yep, this all sounds like the right way to take care of this, with the right medication. Good to know you can post one ear still, even if I leave the other down till it's better. Ok, I will make sure the post are in deep enough too. I will update you guys on Monday after the vet sees him. I feel really thankful that this Forum exists, and that you loveley people are all experienced enough to help out the new owners of this breed!! Cheers guys!
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Cindy..

Soooo familiar with the rain BS here in th PNW. Day after day after day. Honestly, I don't think I have ever raised a pup in posts in the summer! LOL

My solution his to make a rain hat. I take a ziplock sandwich bag and staple two 1/2 shoe laces at the bottom to make a chin tie. However instead of constantly tying and untying them, I put a sliding cord clip (like off of a backpack) on the ties so I can simply loosen and unloosen them under the chin.

I usually make 2 or three at once, so I always have a dry one handy.

Keep up the good work (Both of you)

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Oh BTW... The Ket flush cleaner that dobebug mentioned has been my go-to for years. In fact I always keep it around even when I have finished posting. It is a very effective anti fungal and anti bacterial cleansing product.

It is available by veterinary prescription only:

https://www.medi-vet.com/PhytoVet-KE...sh-p/18462.htm

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