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post #26 of 30 (permalink) Old 05-01-2020, 06:56 PM
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Update: I spoke to the vet regarding Primor. He skipped all his food yesterday and would throw up whatever little food I was able to get him to eat. I rushed him to the vet and they did a full CBC blood test and everything came back normal. Vet said it might be a reaction to Primor, so now heís on clindamycin. They also performed a full panel thyroid test on him and the results should come back tomorrow. Itís very odd, because he didnít have a reaction to it until the last day of his medication.
Also, do you guys know how long a full panel thyroid takes for results to come back?
I'm glad I sent that post--I don't know why it took several days for it to affect him (and realistically it might have not been the Primor 1200 that caused it) I can tell you that with stuff that causes allergic reactions sometimes the first exposure has not particular noticeable effect. My family knew I was allergic to sulfonamides by the time I was 2 years old. I'm so old that there were not many antibiotics when I was two. So sulfonamides were some of the first and I was a kid who caught colds, developed bronchitis which often resulted in pneumonia--and by the time I was four or five I was having immediate and BAD reactions to sulfonamids. The last time I went through one of the cycles of cold/bronchitis/pneumonia--they begged the US Army facility south of Seattle for some pennecillin--it was around but at that time was restricted to military use. My doctor thought I was going to die and he couldn't give me a sulfonamid again because it almost killed me that last time they tried it.

So my guess is that he was reacting to the Primor but it was slow because he hadn't encountered it before. Just to be on the safe side though I think I'd make sure that this vet and any other new vets who might see him in the future have a great big notation in his chart that he is believed to be reactive to sulfonamides. Anyway I'm glad he's on clyndamycin now.

Full panel thyroid reports (if they sent it directly to MSU) take about 4 working days to come back.) If they sent it to a local lab--and not many of them do the TgAA--that lab will send it to MSU or Texas A & M Vet and you can add on another 4 to 5 days.

Good luck--geeze, sometimes any kind of medical treatments can scare the bejeepers out of you. Keep us posted, please...

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I'm glad I sent that post--I don't know why it took several days for it to affect him (and realistically it might have not been the Primor 1200 that caused it) I can tell you that with stuff that causes allergic reactions sometimes the first exposure has not particular noticeable effect. My family knew I was allergic to sulfonamides by the time I was 2 years old. I'm so old that there were not many antibiotics when I was two. So sulfonamides were some of the first and I was a kid who caught colds, developed bronchitis which often resulted in pneumonia--and by the time I was four or five I was having immediate and BAD reactions to sulfonamids. The last time I went through one of the cycles of cold/bronchitis/pneumonia--they begged the US Army facility south of Seattle for some pennecillin--it was around but at that time was restricted to military use. My doctor thought I was going to die and he couldn't give me a sulfonamid again because it almost killed me that last time they tried it.

So my guess is that he was reacting to the Primor but it was slow because he hadn't encountered it before. Just to be on the safe side though I think I'd make sure that this vet and any other new vets who might see him in the future have a great big notation in his chart that he is believed to be reactive to sulfonamides. Anyway I'm glad he's on clyndamycin now.

Full panel thyroid reports (if they sent it directly to MSU) take about 4 working days to come back.) If they sent it to a local lab--and not many of them do the TgAA--that lab will send it to MSU or Texas A & M Vet and you can add on another 4 to 5 days.

Good luck--geeze, sometimes any kind of medical treatments can scare the bejeepers out of you. Keep us posted, please...

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I know, thank you so much for pointing out the Primor! Titan is now back to his normal, hyper self. I add some chicken broth to his food for a couple days to calm his stomach down before introducing him back to just full kibble. The vet said that heíd have to be on the antibiotics until the lesions disappear. The fungal culture came back negative for any type of fungi, so thatís a bit of a relief. Now I just wait for the thyroid results. Thank you guys so much for all the help, I truly appreciate it! Here is Titan sleeping very soundly after play time. Sending you guys all of Titanís hugs and kisses
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I know, thank you so much for pointing out the Primor! Titan is now back to his normal, hyper self. I add some chicken broth to his food for a couple days to calm his stomach down before introducing him back to just full kibble. The vet said that heíd have to be on the antibiotics until the lesions disappear. The fungal culture came back negative for any type of fungi, so thatís a bit of a relief. Now I just wait for the thyroid results. Thank you guys so much for all the help, I truly appreciate it! Here is Titan sleeping very soundly after play time. Sending you guys all of Titanís hugs and kisses
Ah, I love seeing Doberman's bending their ears while napping.

I'm glad the fungal culture came back negative--sometimes it's harder to get rid of fungal infections than anything that is bacterial.

Normal and hyper definitely beats feeling sick and puking--at least the good eaters will tell you immediately how bad they feel by not eating.

You can give him some rubbies and pets from me.

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Update: the thyroid test came back as normal. The vet recommends for Titan to be on clindamycin until the lesions are al gone. So far lesions have flattened, theyíre no longer protruding and I do see a bit of fur growing back although thereís a bit of hyperpigmentation in the middle of the lesion where all the fur is growing. The vet did mention that it might take a whole year for the fur to completely go back to normal. Heís due back to the vet in a month For a follow up. Will keep you guys updated!!
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Did your vet give you a copy of the thyroid test results. I'd love to know the results of the test for the six parts: T4, T4 by ED, T3, T3 by ED TSH and TgAA. unfortunately there are vets who get not a complete but a partial Thyroid test run and because T4 and T4 by ED and maybe TSH look OK that what they got was all they needed to know.

Good to hear the lesions are diminishing. I'm not surprised that your vet says it may take as long as a year for the skin/coat issue to fully repair itself. Often it takes both the spring and fall shed shedules to complete the process of repair.

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