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Sudden paralysis. Help

Hi everyone. I have a 6 year old Dobie. On 3/26 I noticed him vomit his food several times. He continued to vomit throughout the night going in and out of the yard. The vomit turned into a yellow white foam. In the morning I noticed he began to have an arched back, and he was stumbling. I took him to one doctor in the morning and they suspected a partial torsion from an X-ray. Sends me to VCA. I go to vca and after an ultra sound they say it’s completely clear. Send me him with anti nausea and a fluid pack. We’re home that night (3/27) and he’s refusing all food and the difficulty in walking has progressed to his front. No more vomiting but he doesn’t completely close his mouth and bobs his head.

we wake up the morning of (3/28) and as he gets out of my bed he just falls flat on his face. Not able to walk or lift his legs to pee. He also has had a very shallow short breath like a pant. Took him to another hospital. Full mri was clear, spinal fluid clear, bloodwork clear no one knows what’s going on.

this morning I get a call that he’s completely flaccid and that they are now worried. I told them to check for ticks, botulism etc. please help my Doberman has gone down hill in three days.
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I wish there was something else I could tell you to try, but it sounds like the vets are doing what they can. All I can say is hang in there. It sounds awful--I'm so sorry.
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Poison of some kind? But then I would think something would show up in the bloodwork? Please keep us posted!
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It sounds very similar to a case with our first Doberman. At first we thought it might be Wobblers, but our Vet ruled that out with a few in house tests, and then sent us to a Neurologist Vet. We had to have an MRI at a regular hospital. Our boy had a ruptured disc at C5. Surgery was able to correct it. Does your vet know of a Neuro vet in your town? This is so heartbreaking to see your dog like this and feel so helpless. I am so sorry. Do you know of any injury he may have sustained? Many kind thoughts going your way. Please keep us informed and updated on him.
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Poison of some kind? But then I would think something would show up in the bloodwork? Please keep us posted!
I have gave this thought all day ! CR is on to it - The dog has got into something - Rat poison ? Some kind of Insecticide ? Antifreeze ?

Thoughts and prayers and best of luck
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The MRI was brain but they ended going down the entire spine and there was nothing. They did an ultrasound and there was no obstruction. I just got back from the hospital and my boy can barely move at all. His temp is 1 degree below. They searched for ticks and couldn't find anything but gave him tick preventative anyway. He is also on antibiotics and steroids as a shot in the dark. I did just receive this text which is a good sign and keeps me hopeful "Hello, this is Lola with ACCESS letting you know that Leo has taken a few bites of the chicken and rice you brought him! Thank you!" I also told them that it could be botulism as he is fearless when it comes to wild animals and rodents. They have ruled out obstruction and wobblers. He has some suspicion for coonhound paralysis and myasthenia graves (but the test for myasthenia was unremarkable).

I really appreciate everyones love and support. This boy is my life and I'm not going to give up on him. It does seem to be neuromuscular at this point.
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This is mystifying. Thank you for getting back to this thread to inform us. I check on it all the time to see if there is any more information. The appetite is a good sign. Hang on to that.

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Its the steroids ! Never really seen a Doberman not eat when taking them , It was Ali girl when she had cancer - other than that - they will really eat .

Best of luck And If I can - where are you located ?
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I have gave this thought all day ! CR is on to it - The dog has got into something - Rat poison ? Some kind of Insecticide ? Antifreeze ?

Thoughts and prayers and best of luck

Akhal, how about Sago Palm poisoning? Many symptoms match and blood tests won't show.... Good luck with your boy, keep us updated.

https://austinvets.com/sago-palm-toxicity-in-dogs/
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Are there any new plants in your house?

Did he recently take any heartworm or flea and tick meds?

Did he recently get any shots of any kind?

Could he have eaten anything like aspirin, chocolate or anything that's sugar free like gum or candy?
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I saw on another forum that the probable diagnosis from your vet is coonhound paralysis. Never heard of it, but sounds a long recovery. Please know you and your pup are in our thoughts. Please keep us posted!
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I saw on another forum that the probable diagnosis from your vet is coonhound paralysis. Never heard of it, but sounds a long recovery. Please know you and your pup are in our thoughts. Please keep us posted!
I'm with you CR - Never heard of it and I know a lot of guys that go coon hunting . Wonder if it is in a specific area ?
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Hi everyone. We are in Los Angeles for those who have asked. Leo made a huge step last night by drinking some water on his own and I was just notified that he stood up a little today and took a few steps! This makes the coonhound paralysis very unlikely as recover from that can take weeks. He did not have any new medication or vaccines and the hose is dog proofed of toxic plants. I do believe it is a case of him getting his hands on something toxic and I will update everyone when I go visit him and the doctor in one hour. Thank you all for your continued wishes, support and care. It means the world.
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Hey Everyone. Thank you for the continued care, love, and support. Leo miraculously drank water on his own and stood up as well. This is leaving us puzzled and now we don't think it is coonhound. I'm located in Los Angeles for those who have asked. I also recommend you tell everyone to stop hunting raccoons because that disease is no joke and deadly. Regardless, this is a huge step and I am more hopeful than I have ever been.
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Thanks for the update I was concerned about you and your pup! Glad to hear things appear to be improving.

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Stevia/Erythritol is really dangerous to dogs. I almost gave my dog a bite of a cookie I'd made because he wanted some. Then I remembered I'd made it with Stevia. Praying for a quick recovery
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While Erythritol is probably not great for dogs, Xylitol, a similar sugar based alcohol and also used as a sweetener is VERY toxic to dogs. Even a very small amount can kill a dog.

BTW... It is important to note that many peanut butters contain Xylitol. When we treat our pups with peanut butter (which many folks do) it is best that the "ingredients" list only "peanuts" or "peanuts, salt".

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A friend of ours with a Staffybull, had her young dog recently die from Xylitol poisoning.
We too, only use Pnut butter with natural ingredients, preferrably organic. The organic
is just me, I am a 'nut' about it.

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Toothpaste and sugar free products (gum, in particular) are often sweetened with xylitol. Which is why you shouldn't use human dental products on your dog. If you've got a little dog, even a stick or two of sugar-free gum can be really harmful, or even deadly.
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