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Red Anus (Excessive Licking)

So I noticed yesterday that his anus has been unusually red and that he was constantly licking it like it was itching. I took him to emergency care and the doctor expressed his left anal gland as she said it was very full, and she also tested him for parasites. The test came back negative and she said that he will eventually stop licking it. Does anyone what this is because it doesn't seem like it's getting better? Thanks.
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So I noticed yesterday that his anus has been unusually red and that he was constantly licking it like it was itching. I took him to emergency care and the doctor expressed his left anal gland as she said it was very full, and she also tested him for parasites. The test came back negative and she said that he will eventually stop licking it. Does anyone what this is because it doesn't seem like it's getting better? Thanks.
I think I'd take him in to his regular vet--tell that vet what emergency said and get the paperwork on it so your vet can see what the vet said.

It looks a lot like a swollen and perhaps infected anal sac. Not often a problem in Dobes but sometimes it is. If it's infected but can be easily emptied the solution is generally to inject an antibiotic (something like Anamax--there are several of these type of things--they all have different names but basically the same thing and will work) Depends on exactly what's going on--one of my Dobes had an anal sac on the left that got infected and it took two injections of Anamax (one every other day as I recall) before it stopped being a problem that caused the dog to keep licking, licking, licking.

Injection at the site if preferable to trying to treat with oral meds because the anal sac are not easily reached with oral meds.

Scooting and licking are the first symptoms of an anal gland problem.

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Poor Archie, hope he gets better real soon.
Keep us updated please.

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Will schedule an appointment with my vet once the office opens on Monday. Meanwhile, I will apply some Quadritop ointment to the area to reduce inflammation and maybe inching.
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Will schedule an appointment with my vet once the office opens on Monday. Meanwhile, I will apply some Quadritop ointment to the area to reduce inflammation and maybe inching.
That may help some--and Quadritop is one of the virtually identical products (identical to Anamax) used for injection into an infected anal sac after emptying it.

I'm guessing that is is the pressure of retained anal sac fluid that has him licking the area--but I suspect that the inflamation stems from the inside.

Let us know what your vet says.

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Def. looks like a swollen and slightly infected anal sac to me.

On an off note, did anyone grow up thinking they'd be looking at pictures of dogs anuses lol
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I just came back from the vet. She checked his anal glands and said that they were definitely infected and prescribed an antibiotic (Baytril) and an anti-inflammatory medication (Rimadyl). Archie has to take them for 10 days and then come back for a checkup.
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Thanks for the update--keep us posted and good luck.

We'd love to see some more pictures of...um....your dog's front half. I gather he's practically all grown up now? (Well, not totally, but getting there, I bet.)
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I just came back from the vet. She checked his anal glands and said that they were definitely infected and prescribed an antibiotic (Baytril) and an anti-inflammatory medication (Rimadyl). Archie has to take them for 10 days and then come back for a checkup.
Glad you were able to get the care needed ........keep up in the loop and let us know how things are going as those meds kick in....positive thoughts sent your way !

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I just came back from the vet. She checked his anal glands and said that they were definitely infected and prescribed an antibiotic (Baytril) and an anti-inflammatory medication (Rimadyl). Archie has to take them for 10 days and then come back for a checkup.
How old is the dog, Peter87? The treatment with Baytril and Rimadyl may work but don't be terribly surprised if it doesn't.

I ask about the age because Baytril is generally contraindicated for use on puppies. It is often used for treatment of prostate infections--the anal sacs and prostate glands share an anatomical system that makes it hard for oral antibiotics to reach the prostate (ditto for anal glands).

The Rimadyl (like all NSAIDS) works well for reducing swelling--and should make him much more comfortable. But usually if the Baytril doesn't take care of the infection--the next step (or for many dogs it would be the first step) would be injection of an appropriate antibiotic into the anal sac.

If the vet didn't tell you, one of the things that happens sometimes is that anal sacs that continue to be infected may eventually abscess and burst--then things get more problematic--the involves complete surgical removal of the anal sac(s).

It is also true that Dobes mostly don't have this kind of problems. Seems to relate to some degree on the size of the dog--smaller breeds seem to have more problems.

So good luck and please keep us posted. Here's hoping for an uneventful recovery for your boy.

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He's gonna be 11 months on March 24th.
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Such a good looking boy! Thx for sharing that.

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He HAS grown. Not done yet, but he's looking good. Manly, you know.
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He's probably OK for being treated with the Baytril at 11 months--he's gone through most of the uber fast growth period. But you might just ask his vet if it's OK to use Baytril on dogs his size and age.

And yeah, he's looking more "manly" in this latest picture.

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