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Interdigital cysts

Wondering if anyone has advice to get rid of a pesky interdigital cyst. Sully has one weíve been trying to get rid of for awhile now, heís been to the vet several times for it and we've treated it with gentacalm spray and chlorahexidine wipes. It got better for a bit (didnít completely go away) and then flared up again. Iíve been treating it with Epsom salt soaks and an all natural balm called Skin Soother, it has great reviews but itís not really doing anything for him. The vet said that we we might have to lance it but Iím concerned that will make things worse in the long run. Iíve been doing my own research and Iíve seen good things about Manuka honey or a prescription ointment called animax. Thoughts?
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Is your vet sure it is really an interdigital cyst? There are some things that can grow between a dogs toes that aren't interdigital cysts. And the other thing is that typically they are best diagnosed by surgical removal and sent out for pathology identification.

Animax is commonly used for things that you'd use Neosporan on--they are similar products.

I'm not a huge fan of trying to treat things with natural products when you don't really know if what you are treating is what you think it might be without actually getting a dianosis.

I had a dog who had something growing between two toes on a front foot that was obviously very painful. His vet--didn't guess--he surgically removed the mass and sent it out for a biopsy. Turned out what my dog had was a papilloma (wart--by any other name--turns out they can grow any place--you often see them as oral papillomas in young dogs--those are very contageous and passed dog to dog and will often clear up on their own and once the dog has recovered they are permanently immune.)

The total removal was very successful and there was never any kind of recurrence of the problem.

Personally if it's been there for awhile and you've been treating it--I'd think it was time to get an actual diagnosis and make sure it is an interdigital cyst--and that it is being properly treated.

From what I hear about Manuka Honey--it is most successfully used in treating large areas of raw flesh that may be infected--sugar wraps or honey of any kind do pretty much the same thing--the high sugar content keeps infections from happening and work well of degloved areas or skinned areas (like dogs who fall out of moving vehicles and get big skinned areas).

Good luck with getting it cleared up but I think you need to find out exactly WHAT it is that you are trying to clear up first.

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my friend's male dobie had these, went of the UF vet hospital, did steroids, wipes, antibiotics came back finally did a Laser2 treatment. Went away however in a month or two came back. Went back on the steroid regiment has not reoccurred
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Is your vet sure it is really an interdigital cyst? There are some things that can grow between a dogs toes that aren't interdigital cysts. And the other thing is that typically they are best diagnosed by surgical removal and sent out for pathology identification.

Animax is commonly used for things that you'd use Neosporan on--they are similar products.

I'm not a huge fan of trying to treat things with natural products when you don't really know if what you are treating is what you think it might be without actually getting a dianosis.

I had a dog who had something growing between two toes on a front foot that was obviously very painful. His vet--didn't guess--he surgically removed the mass and sent it out for a biopsy. Turned out what my dog had was a papilloma (wart--by any other name--turns out they can grow any place--you often see them as oral papillomas in young dogs--those are very contageous and passed dog to dog and will often clear up on their own and once the dog has recovered they are permanently immune.)

The total removal was very successful and there was never any kind of recurrence of the problem.

Personally if it's been there for awhile and you've been treating it--I'd think it was time to get an actual diagnosis and make sure it is an interdigital cyst--and that it is being properly treated.

From what I hear about Manuka Honey--it is most successfully used in treating large areas of raw flesh that may be infected--sugar wraps or honey of any kind do pretty much the same thing--the high sugar content keeps infections from happening and work well of degloved areas or skinned areas (like dogs who fall out of moving vehicles and get big skinned areas).

Good luck with getting it cleared up but I think you need to find out exactly WHAT it is that you are trying to clear up first.

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Weíve seen two different vets in the office, both said it was an interdigital cyst., they did xrays to see if there was a foreign body. Also he actually had it on both feet, his right foot was less severe and went away with the treatment they prescribed, the one on the right foot decreased drastically and wasnít bothering him until I started a joint supplement, it flared up within a few days of starting it. I used what I had left from the vet and it didnít help, he had this when he was younger and my old vet told me to use Epsom salts which helped at the time, which is why I reached for that when the medication didnít work. The best way I can describe it is it seems like heís got a bunch of ingrown hairs, causing irritation/infection, you can see all of the hairs that are embedded under the skin and when they surface they are not connected to the follicle, they pull right out.

Iím taking him back to the vet since heís not getting any better but I wanted to see if anyone had any non surgical suggestions that I could discuss with them.

Animax says itís used to treat interdigital cysts on the label And I know medical grade Manuka honey is used to treat antibiotic resistant infections like MRSA...just wondering if anyone had any experience with either of these.

Hereís a picture of it
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I did a little reading on interdigital cysts and one of the things that evidently occurs (and it's recommended that you make sure that the vet does a growth plate if it isn't clearing up or isn't clearing up completely because sometimes there is active bacteria and evidently sometimes it's MERSA and needs to checked to see what will actually kill the active pathogen.

By the way, one of the studies I looked at commented on the fact that because hair on dogs isn't a single hair to a single follicle (as in people) sometimes there are as many as four or five hairs growing from a single follicle and systemic antibiotics don't always get to areas in the feet because of the the way the skin layers operate there.

You might ask your vets if they think a dermatologist might have better luck treating this particular problem.

Good luck--I sure don't envy you trying to cope with this--from what the literature says it seems like interdigital cysts can be very difficult to treat successfully.
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I did a little reading on interdigital cysts and one of the things that evidently occurs (and it's recommended that you make sure that the vet does a growth plate if it isn't clearing up or isn't clearing up completely because sometimes there is active bacteria and evidently sometimes it's MERSA and needs to checked to see what will actually kill the active pathogen.

By the way, one of the studies I looked at commented on the fact that because hair on dogs isn't a single hair to a single follicle (as in people) sometimes there are as many as four or five hairs growing from a single follicle and systemic antibiotics don't always get to areas in the feet because of the the way the skin layers operate there.

You might ask your vets if they think a dermatologist might have better luck treating this particular problem.

Good luck--I sure don't envy you trying to cope with this--from what the literature says it seems like interdigital cysts can be very difficult to treat successfully.
Thanks for looking into this a little bit for me, itís been quite a battle, when he was younger they took months to clear up and then nothing for 7 years. I talked to my breeder a bit, she gave me some insight too, Iím definitely going to ask them to swab them so we can get the right antibiotics if necessary. Iíll be back with an update...
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My first Doberman had recurring interdigital cysts, and we ended up reducing them by applying diluted tea tree oil, under the guidance of our vet. Might be worth discussing with your doc.


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We saw the vet and was given NeoPredef powder to use until the culture comes back, takes about 5-7 days.
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We saw the vet and was given NeoPredef powder to use until the culture comes back, takes about 5-7 days.
I have used that for years in the treatment of wet areas that need to dry and the dogs continue to lick that area. Lately I have had better luck in drying and stopping the licking using Gold Bond original powder in the orange container. This advice came from a vet otherwise I would have never thought of using it.
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Sullyís culture came back shows two different bacteriaís, I didnít write down the names but one is staph. The lab tests the strains against antibiotics and recommended doxycycline. Itís gotten a little better since starting the neopredef but heís still limping. So hopefully the antibiotics work soon and he can start feeling better.
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Here you go:

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See a vet immediately.
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Here you go:

https://veterinarypartner.vin.com/de...239&id=8713573

See a vet immediately.
Read my posts.

Iíve seen a vet multiple times.

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