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CDM with arrhythmia

Hi everyone! My first post here and it isn't a happy one. My 10 year old dobie was just diagnosed with CDM and has a ventricular couplet arrhythmia. I am wondering if anyone here has experience with this, specifically the arrhythmia.
The vet is recommending Mexitil and I am hesitant to give it as this drug can often have proarrhythmic effects--does any one have experience with medicating for arrhythmias? It was also recommended that we take her to the U of MN for an echo but she doesn't handle the car or vet well at all--if anyone could let me know if the stress is worth this very long car ride (I live 75 miles from the U) and test worth it?
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Are you in Minnesota? I highly, HIGHLY recommend seeing either Dr. Rose or Dr. Green at AERC in Oakdale (https://aercmn.com/about-us/specialists/). I know both personally, and have worked with Dr. Rose for a few years, and Dr. George last year. Feel free to send me a private message. I cannot speak highly enough of Dr. Rose in particular.

I know it can be a wait to get in with any of the cardiologists in the Twin Cities area, but often they have a cancellation list, so if an appointment opens up sooner you can get a phone call to come in on shorter notice. Personally, I would absolutely make the drive, assuming your dog handles car rides well.


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DT ate a long post about arrythmia--dagnabit1

A greatly shortened version here: Yes, do get the echo done by a cardiologist--it's worth it for the information it will provide.

Mexitaline--is one of the first drugs used for arrythmias and is effective but needs to be constantly monitored because of possible side effects. There are other anti-arrythmiacs which are more commonly used when starting a drug regimen for a cardiac patient. Sotalol is one (there are others). Mexitaline is more often used as last ditch efforts to control arrythmias. One of the side effects is that some dogs stop eating and won't eat. I went through this with a 12 year old Dobe bitch who I was dog sitting for a friend who was out of town a lot for work. She had lots of arrythmias--and the number was rising--so her cardiologist put her on Mexitaline--she would NOT eat--it came down to the point where it was a choice of arryhmias or starvation. In the name of the comfort of the dogs last days the cardiologist, her owner and the regular vet (who is also a Dobe breeder)they took her off the Mexitaline raised the amount of sotalol she got and she lasted a little over another month but she was happy and had a good appetite and was with me when she died. That was after a good dinner I got up to give her the last pills for the night and take her out to pee and she was gone--curled up in her dog bed--I think she left in her sleep.

But talk to your vet or whoever wanted to prescribe the Mexitaline right off the bat and getting a echo done is something I'd do sooner rather than later.

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I would like to email you, I don't know how to do it as I'm not seeing a link (this is my first time with a forum)
I am going to look into the vets you recommended as I am in MN. My girl doesn't handle the car well anymore (she used to love it) as we have been going to the vet non-stop with this so the moment she sees we are getting in the car she starts to breath heavy and I am terrified she will go into arrest. I have rented a holter monitor to use at home to at least get an idea of what is happening with the arrhythmia. Everything I have read says that after a dobe is diagnosed with this they only have about 3 months...is this your experience?
As a side note, I noticed one of your dobes is named Richter--that is my maiden name
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I would like to email you, I don't know how to do it as I'm not seeing a link (this is my first time with a forum)
I am going to look into the vets you recommended as I am in MN. My girl doesn't handle the car well anymore (she used to love it) as we have been going to the vet non-stop with this so the moment she sees we are getting in the car she starts to breath heavy and I am terrified she will go into arrest. I have rented a holter monitor to use at home to at least get an idea of what is happening with the arrhythmia. Everything I have read says that after a dobe is diagnosed with this they only have about 3 months...is this your experience?
As a side note, I noticed one of your dobes is named Richter--that is my maiden name
You can private message me here on the forum using the "private message" function, but feel free to email me at [email protected].

I have thankfully not had a dog with DCM, but many many members have. From my understanding survival time can vary tremendously. I know one of our members had a dog live many, many years after diagnosis, so 3 months certainly isn't necessarily true. There are many factors that will determine survival time and a cardiologist is best equipped to discuss that with you.
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My Baron was on Sotalol first for arrhythmias caused by DCM. He was on it for about 4 years and then he needed some more help and was put on Mexiletine. He was on both for another 4 years until he passed. He was one of the lucky ones who never had any side effects from either drug.
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