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We took our boy into the emergency vet this afternoon after noticing his lower left lip drooping and when I checked his left eye, he couldn't blink. His right side is fine. He has, for the past few days, been slow with his food, picking at it and just not eating like his usual self. So rather than wait 2 days til his local vet could see him, we drove 1.5hrs to get him looked at. So the Vet thinks he has idiopathic facial paralysis which may or may not return to normal. Has anyone had any experience with this?

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We took our boy into the emergency vet this afternoon after noticing his lower left lip drooping and when I checked his left eye, he couldn't blink. His right side is fine. He has, for the past few days, been slow with his food, picking at it and just not eating like his usual self. So rather than wait 2 days til his local vet could see him, we drove 1.5hrs to get him looked at. So the Vet thinks he has idiopathic facial paralysis which may or may not return to normal. Has anyone had any experience with this?

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I'm sorry that he's going through this. Has the ER vet referred you to a neurologist? I had Bell's Palsy in my 20s and got prescribed Prednisone to reduce the swelling of the facial nerve, it resolved completely. The most annoying symptom was the eye dryness, due to the inability to blink - he might need lubricating eye drops to prevent corneal damage! Good luck, please keep us posted.
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Best of luck to you all and a speedy recovery !

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Could it have been a stroke? Just a guess.
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I'm sorry that he's going through this. Has the ER vet referred you to a neurologist? I had Bell's Palsy in my 20s and got prescribed Prednisone to reduce the swelling of the facial nerve, it resolved completely. The most annoying symptom was the eye dryness, due to the inability to blink - he might need lubricating eye drops to prevent corneal damage! Good luck, please keep us posted.

Good Morning ZenChari. The emergency vet said that most of the cases have no known cause and that the other low percentile causes may be middle ear bulbous fluid collection which can only be dx by MRI and treatment would be surgery. And that being said, his symptoms would probably remain the same. So basically, she wasn't aggressive offering any diagnostics, etc. She did however say we could make an appointment to see the neurologist if we wanted to. She gave us some eye drops for him because that was a huge concern for me, that his eye remain hydrated. She mentioned prednisone and then said it hasn't been shown to help, weighing the side effects vs benefits.

So here we are, basically where we started and I'm not sure to pursue it further or not. She said she actually had a dog that had the same thing an regained her blink reflex back. I know all dogs are different though. It's super frustrating for us.
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Good Morning ZenChari. The emergency vet said that most of the cases have no known cause and that the other low percentile causes may be middle ear bulbous fluid collection which can only be dx by MRI and treatment would be surgery. And that being said, his symptoms would probably remain the same. So basically, she wasn't aggressive offering any diagnostics, etc. She did however say we could make an appointment to see the neurologist if we wanted to. She gave us some eye drops for him because that was a huge concern for me, that his eye remain hydrated. She mentioned prednisone and then said it hasn't been shown to help, weighing the side effects vs benefits.

So here we are, basically where we started and I'm not sure to pursue it further or not. She said she actually had a dog that had the same thing an regained her blink reflex back. I know all dogs are different though. It's super frustrating for us.
I can imagine your frustration, we don't want our babies to ever have anything like this happen to them. I'm glad that the vet addressed the eye dryness, since it's so important. I really hope that he recovers fully, good vibes heading your way!
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Could it have been a stroke? Just a guess.
She never gave that any consideration. I don't know if the s/s are the same for canines as humans. I'll have to research that more.
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Good Morning ZenChari. The emergency vet said that most of the cases have no known cause and that the other low percentile causes may be middle ear bulbous fluid collection which can only be dx by MRI and treatment would be surgery. And that being said, his symptoms would probably remain the same. So basically, she wasn't aggressive offering any diagnostics, etc. She did however say we could make an appointment to see the neurologist if we wanted to. She gave us some eye drops for him because that was a huge concern for me, that his eye remain hydrated. She mentioned prednisone and then said it hasn't been shown to help, weighing the side effects vs benefits.

So here we are, basically where we started and I'm not sure to pursue it further or not. She said she actually had a dog that had the same thing an regained her blink reflex back. I know all dogs are different though. It's super frustrating for us.

IMO ...as the saying goes “trust but verify”.
In a case like yours I think a trip to a Neuro Specialist would be of benefit to you.
Second opinions are warranted just to make sure nothing was missed.
Doctors understand this and encourage other opinions with things so delicate.
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There is a vet in NJ that used to be a member here a long time ago. She has another breed that seemed to have the same issue recently (last year). She is a vet at Belle Mead Animal Hospital in Hillsborough NJ. Her name is Kim Somjen. You may want to look her up to see what she did with her dog.
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Could it have been a stroke? Just a guess.
Over the years several vet neurologists have said that strokes, as in the kind that people have, aren't really part of the list of stuff that happens to dogs. I asked a vet neurologist that occasionally comes to our vet clinic (general practice urban type clinic) for consults, about that and he said that dogs also don't have hardening of the arteries either. Things that often get called "strokes" are actually much more often in canines and felines are cardio events or in cats, at least, failure of large arteries in the abdomen.

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Over the years several vet neurologists have said that strokes, as in the kind that people have, aren't really part of the list of stuff that happens to dogs. I asked a vet neurologist that occasionally comes to our vet clinic (general practice urban type clinic) for consults, about that and he said that dogs also don't have hardening of the arteries either. Things that often get called "strokes" are actually much more often in canines and felines are cardio events or in cats, at least, failure of large arteries in the abdomen.

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