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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-29-2019, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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I've been looking at past posts about doberman nail trimming to get some insight on using a dremel. I've been clipping Zeus's nails myself but I've never been super confident while doing it. Im afraid of clipping too close and hurting him, and his nails are black of course and thick, so it takes a bit of effort even though I really try to snip just a tiny bit at a time. I have a guillotine type clipper, and I've only recently read that scissor types are better for bigger dogs with thicker nails. Yesterday, after therapy dog training at PetSmart, we got his nails dremmeled there. It was his 1st time going to any type of groomer, and I was worried he'd pull his paws away or not do well with the strange machine. He did well (and of course loved everybody), but I don't feel like they trimmed much off his nails. I can still hear a claw or two clicking when he walks.

I figured I could do it myself with practice and getting him used to me using then dremel. What brand of dremel have you found best? I'll keep reading old posts about tips and tricks to successful trimming. Thank you!
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I use the Dremel Micro 8050 based on suggestions from others here. The batteries last a long time between charges.



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I tell you what Gamer , If you can get here soon , I will wait to trim Mr. Business's nails and will show you first hand how to do it .

I use the Dremel brand , it Is a lot easier for me to use , as I just take my time and you will see the quick , if you don't , the blood will tell you they are short enough .
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Dozens of past DT threads on Dremeling Dobe nails. Just use Search feature and enter Dremel.

I currently use the Dremel 8V Micro (Model 8050) on Dobes nails weekly and the Dremel Stylo (Model 2050 corded) on little Lanah's nails. Stylo is tiny & almost silent and great for small dogs, just wish it had an LED light like the 8050 model, so I wear headlight in lieu of. Breeders and pros seem to prefer the corded model Dremel tools.

Here is previous post I put up about using Micro with STC bits on Eva's nails. (with pics):
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pros seem to prefer the corded model Dremel tools.

I much prefer the corded - the battery type runs out of - well battery or its just not as powerful as a cord plugged into 240 - 3 phase
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I also use a Dremel......and I bought this special attachment separately..........I snip a piece of the nail first............and follow up with the Dremel........this nail grinder head does not get very hot.....and the barrel on top leaves a nice rounded nail............
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I also use a Dremel......and I bought this special attachment separately..........I snip a piece of the nail first............and follow up with the Dremel........this nail grinder head does not get very hot.....and the barrel on top leaves a nice rounded nail............
what the heck is that Di ?
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Oh heck let me go get some details

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Ok...here it is......wa la........do not laugh at the price...it’s worth it......that thingy in the top ...leaves a real nice finish ....
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Ok...here it is......wa la........do not laugh at the price...it’s worth it......that thingy in the top ...leaves a real nice finish ....
That's way cheaper than the DiamaGroove heads. Those run more like $150.

I use a corded Craftsman rotary tool with the regular sanding bands.
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I prefer corded because it never fails that I run out of battery at the most inconvenient time with the battery models.

I use Dremel brand--they last longer the copies. The one I'm using now is a Dremel 3000. Multiple speed model--I use a 1/2 collet and 60 grit bands (occasionally I find some 120 grit bands and keep them around for a finer finish but ran out awhile back so am using 60X for everything.

The 3000 is a small kit--has stuff in it I never use but occasionally find it handy for stuff around the house (other than the dogs). It's probably been superceded by a fancier model now but I've been very happy with it for at least 10 years.

If I'm trimming with a clipper I do use a scissors type not a guillotine. And the smaller size clipper works better to take off small slices than the bigger ones--even on big dogs with great big think nails. And cheaper to replace as they get dull.

I started using a dremel years ago when I had a black dog (with black nails) and his quick grew out with the nail and while the nails didn't grow fast they were very hard
it pinched the quick to try to trim them--even with scissor type clippers. The dremel was the answer to nails for him--never had any problems with him acting like I was amputating his toes when I ground them.

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I have a couple different dremels, corded and cordless. I much prefer the cordless for doing dog nails- especially on a "new" dog that might get a little freaky. If you go the cordless route make sure you get one with a nice big lithium battery. I was able to do 4 adult dogs and 3 puppies in a single charge over the weekend with the cordless one- it's an 8220. I use the diamagroove attachment as well. The best part of it is you never have to change bands and it threads directly to the shaft on the motor so it's perfectly balanced. The sanding drum/band attachment in the collet vibrates a considerable amount if you don't get it on just right.
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I also use the Diamagroove head - it's worth springing for the real one, IMO - I had one that was cheaper and a knock-off, and it didn't work nearly as well. I like the Diamagroove head because it doesn't get as hot, you don't need to change it out like the sanding bands, and it takes off more nail much more quickly.

If you're on FB, there's a good nail group you can join that has step-by-step instructions for how to get your dog used to dremeling. Let me know if you want the link.
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I also use the Diamagroove head - it's worth springing for the real one, IMO - I had one that was cheaper and a knock-off, and it didn't work nearly as well. I like the Diamagroove head because it doesn't get as hot, you don't need to change it out like the sanding bands, and it takes off more nail much more quickly.

If you're on FB, there's a good nail group you can join that has step-by-step instructions for how to get your dog used to dremeling. Let me know if you want the link.
Do you have the Pinnacle or the Boxer? I've been looking at them on and off but the price always turns me away. I'd like the link for that group; do they have directions or tips on getting those nails nice and short (my new mission in life)?



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Do you have the Pinnacle or the Boxer? I've been looking at them on and off but the price always turns me away. I'd like the link for that group; do they have directions or tips on getting those nails nice and short (my new mission in life)?
I have the Pinnacle. I like it a lot. I know some people that don't, but I've been REALLY happy with it. I have a friend that prefers the Boxer.

Here's the FB group - it's supposed to be awesome for nails! The admin warns you to make sure and answer all the questions or they won't add you https://m.facebook.com/groups/356060...nt_filter&_rdr

BTW, I *personally* don't like the uber short show nails on my own dogs. There's some really good articles out there on nail length - I read a great article by a rehab/sports medicine vet on nail length that was not in favor of those super short nails, especially for dogs in sports. I keep my dogs short enough that they aren't touching the ground/clicking, but I don't like them as short as show nails. Obviously, to each their own, but I prefer a bit longer for a LOT of reasons. I do nails about once a week to every 10 days.


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I have the Pinnacle. I like it a lot. I know some people that don't, but I've been REALLY happy with it. I have a friend that prefers the Boxer.

Here's the FB group - it's supposed to be awesome for nails! The admin warns you to make sure and answer all the questions or they won't add you https://m.facebook.com/groups/356060...nt_filter&_rdr

BTW, I *personally* don't like the uber short show nails on my own dogs. There's some really good articles out there on nail length - I read a great article by a rehab/sports medicine vet on nail length that was not in favor of those super short nails, especially for dogs in sports. I keep my dogs short enough that they aren't touching the ground/clicking, but I don't like them as short as show nails. Obviously, to each their own, but I prefer a bit longer for a LOT of reasons. I do nails about once a week to every 10 days.
Mocha's nails click on our wood floors and most of the time it doesn't bother us but I'd like to see if I can get her nails just short enough to stop the clicking...I don't want to go show dog short either.



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TN - On our dogs , If they got a little long , like when Ali was sick , I would trim them once a week - well I do Kadin's once a week too , but I push the limit some , Not to make them bleed , but I do get close to the quick , I was told by two vets that by doing that , the quick will back up some , I will say - it does work on ours , I did get one of Kadins close to bleeding the other day , just a very tiny dot of red , it did not seem to bother him and he lets you know when you get close . It just takes time to get them back to where you want them .
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I use a cordless Dremel. You can go to Groomers Choice and pick one up. I have never run out of a charge and I groom professionally. I just put it back on the charger when I'm done dremeling. The diamond bit heads are pricey but I feel they would be worth it. Haven't bought one yet but my peers swear by them. Hope this helps. I would always have a jar of quick stop on hand just to be safe. It lasts forever. I think I bought my container over 10 years ago.
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I use a corded dremel with 60 grit sandpaper rounds - the cord is never long enough so I have an extension cord on it. A cordless never had enough juice to do three dogs in a row. Mine is actually a 10 speed craftsman - no idea what model.
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I use a Dremel brand battery powered 7300. It has high and low speeds, but I always use it on high. I also have an extra battery so I can keep one on the charger while using the dremel, and if I have multiple dogs to grind, the spare fully charged battery lets me keep going. Just be sure when you dremel your dogs' nails you hold the toe you're working on steady, because these grinders DO vibrate, and holding the toe firmly helps to not freak out your dog with too much vibration.
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MC, do you use the standard, medium or fine head? I know its an old post but I'm reviewing the nail dremeling process and want to be prepared before we get our pup!

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MC, do you use the standard, medium or fine head? I know its an old post but I'm reviewing the nail dremeling process and want to be prepared before we get our pup!

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I just ordered the standard. Works for us.

https://whitmans.biz/product/diamagroove-pinnacle-2

I've heard from some people that they prefer the "Boxer" though -

https://whitmans.biz/product/diamagroove-boxer
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