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Rough week in our house

On Saturday we went to a festival and got home late, I didnít want to make the dogs go to bed right away, so I said letís watch a movie and let them play. Dogs decided they didnít really want to play but got up to snuggle with us and we all fell asleep. An hour or so later they decide to get up and play, weíre still sleeping, we wake up at 3:00 am to the sounds of Rizzo chewing a blanket, that she stole off of the couch. Pick it up and realize she chewed and ate quite a large amount. Called the vet first thing in the morning and they said itís probably too late to do anything but go ahead and bring her in. So we did, vet says same thing, itís probably already passed through her stomach, we can induce vomiting or take the wait and see approach. I didnít want to put her through the vomiting for no reason but I also didnít want to take the chance, so the vet says since I withheld breakfast there shouldnít be any food in her belly, we can do an X-ray and if her stomach is full we know she has blanket in it. Well sure enough it was full, so we went ahead with inducing vomiting, she puked up large chunks of blanket enough the cover the bottom of a big dog bowl! Iím so glad I took her in, I donít think she could have passed all of that.

Today I get home and let the dogs out, about 10 min later Rizzo is standing at the back door and Sully has something that heís eating, I go out to see what it is and he has something furry sticking out of his mouth, I try to get him to drop it but he says no way momma! And starts chomping faster I can hear bone crunching and looks like a leg sticking out of his mouth, I try to get it again and he gulps it down! Iím thinking it was a rabbit but I really have no idea what it was. Called the vet and they said they wouldnít induce because of th bone and he should be able to break it down and process it just fine, just keep an eye on him.

Sully is almost 9 and heís chased critter for his whole life without success, but in the last year he caught a garter snake and a squirrel, both he gave up right away. And now some mysterious critter that apparently was too tasty to let go. 🤦🏻*♀️ So now Iím on high alert and poop patrol to make sure heís good.
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Oh ugh. Isn't it awful? It just drives you insane. If it was eaten raw, the creature...then he should be able to break it down. Hope it goes through.

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On Saturday we went to a festival and got home late, I didn’t want to make the dogs go to bed right away, so I said let’s watch a movie and let them play. Dogs decided they didn’t really want to play but got up to snuggle with us and we all fell asleep. An hour or so later they decide to get up and play, we’re still sleeping, we wake up at 3:00 am to the sounds of Rizzo chewing a blanket, that she stole off of the couch. Pick it up and realize she chewed and ate quite a large amount. Called the vet first thing in the morning and they said it’s probably too late to do anything but go ahead and bring her in. So we did, vet says same thing, it’s probably already passed through her stomach, we can induce vomiting or take the wait and see approach. I didn’t want to put her through the vomiting for no reason but I also didn’t want to take the chance, so the vet says since I withheld breakfast there shouldn’t be any food in her belly, we can do an X-ray and if her stomach is full we know she has blanket in it. Well sure enough it was full, so we went ahead with inducing vomiting, she puked up large chunks of blanket enough the cover the bottom of a big dog bowl! I’m so glad I took her in, I don’t think she could have passed all of that.

Today I get home and let the dogs out, about 10 min later Rizzo is standing at the back door and Sully has something that he’s eating, I go out to see what it is and he has something furry sticking out of his mouth, I try to get him to drop it but he says no way momma! And starts chomping faster I can hear bone crunching and looks like a leg sticking out of his mouth, I try to get it again and he gulps it down! I’m thinking it was a rabbit but I really have no idea what it was. Called the vet and they said they wouldn’t induce because of th bone and he should be able to break it down and process it just fine, just keep an eye on him.

Sully is almost 9 and he’s chased critter for his whole life without success, but in the last year he caught a garter snake and a squirrel, both he gave up right away. And now some mysterious critter that apparently was too tasty to let go. ����*♀️ So now I’m on high alert and poop patrol to make sure he’s good.
I hear you. We just got our property fenced about 3 weeks ago and it's been a circus ever since. Lois doesn't deal well with change and she's also had to deal with the new puppy arriving. There was one area beneath our deck that we missed when we had the fencing installed (although it was pretty overgrown with branches) so she began her version of The Great Escape there. My husband closed that off with some lattice fencing and then she transferred her digging skills to every "suspected" gopher hole on the property. She was pretty sedentary pre-fence since we only took her out on a leash so twice in the past few weeks she's hyperextended her leg (old knuckle injury) and we've had to ice it down. Her nose is perma-brown at the moment.

And Kascha did something similar to your dog shortly after we adopted her. She had a habit of reducing anything made of threads, including tug/chew toys, into threads and then eating them. We discovered this when we came home from work and found just a few strands of her braided tug toy remaining, she'd manage to eat the entire thing. The vets took an X-ray, saw the mass, recommended waiting to see if she'd be able to pass it herself. I think they fed her some oil as well as a lubricant and kept her hydrated but it's been so long now I don't recall all the details. She stayed at the vets for the next four days as they tracked whether her digestive system could handle it, and she was totally miserable, almost comatose those four days. Finally on the fifth day she passed it and voila! completely different dog! We took her home and removed everything remotely shreddable.
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LOL

I told my husband a few years ago that if Ripley ever managed to catch a yard rabbit, she's welcome to her lunch and we'd get her wormed after.

The blanket...ugh. I'd have lost my mind if I saw a huge chunk missing. It's bad enough when I see a small chunk gone!

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Isnít times like this that make you wonder why we ever had these kids ?

Mr. Business has caught a few Killdeer , he was so funny , one time I was sitting there watching , thinking no way he would catch it , and then he did ! I jumped up like I was shoot , before I got all the way out the chair , he was looking at me with this look , now what do I do with it ? He had caught it by a wing and the bird was beating the crap out of him with the other wing , this all took place in a few seconds , lol

Kasia was the thief around here , one night we had chicken wings , still today , we have no idea how she stole a couple of them , we were sitting there the whole time and when done , put everything up , so she would not get any of them , went to bed and a few minutes later, she stood up in bed and threw up a few bones , the wife and I looked at each other in disbelief ! Then she went to sleep , the next morning , potty time , she passed out a few more , not to be gross here , but she sure had a heck of a time passing it , rear legs shaking and I will never , never forget her looking at me with that help me dad look , lol that was the only time ! Stuff like that made my hair turn gray
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Sorry hereCF , Iím must still be brain dead this morning !

Glad it all worked out !

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Years ago, my Louise caught and swallowed a baby rabbit whole..... I could hear it squeaking as it went down. She did all this in front of my (then) young children and their friends - Ugh! As you can imagine, there was a lot of screaming going on. I watched her poop for signs of that rabbit for days, and there was absolutely none..... I guess rabbits really digest well.

I'd be much more worried about the blanket than a critter for sure!

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Yikes! The blanket stuff is definitely super scary - been there. We've had a few animals caught, but never consumed (as far as I know!), but that worries me a lot less than the blanket type stuff.


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Years ago, my Louise caught and swallowed a baby rabbit whole..... I could hear it squeaking as it went down. She did all this in front of my (then) young children and their friends - Ugh! As you can imagine, there was a lot of screaming going on. I watched her poop for signs of that rabbit for days, and there was absolutely none..... I guess rabbits really digest well.

I'd be much more worried about the blanket than a critter for sure!
Oh God Fritz , sorry here , Iím not right , but reading your very well described event , lol I donít know which one would have been the Kodak moment , the look on your face or the kids
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Oh God Fritz , sorry here , Iím not right , but reading your very well described event , lol I donít know which one would have been the Kodak moment , the look on your face or the kids
We for sure laugh about it now! At the time it was pretty horrifying. I had discovered a rabbit nest in our fenced yard about a week or so before, and relocated the nest just outside our fence (did my research on what to do). Had to relocate it as the dogs discovered it at the same time I did. There were 6 babies with fur already. It seems that one of them wandered into the fenced yard that fateful day, and Louise grabbed it. She knew I was going to try and take it away from her, hence the swallowing whole thingie. She did not get dinner that night - haha. Nothing like kids learning the circle of life in horrifying real life!
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Mine catch Possums all the time. Lately, when they get caught, they have been playing "possum" and that works in their benefit. I gotta say, when they play "poosum" they are all in because Koa grabs it in his mouth and will prance around the yard for a while with it like a prize and it never wavers. After awhile he loses interest and drops it, then I can get him to come in the house with a little coaxing. The last 2 times, we now have an American Bulldog and that thing is relentless. Once Koa puts the Possum down, the AB (Maile) will just keep trying to attack it and nibble at it whether it's playing dead or not. I have to physically pull her off and drag her in.

With my previous Dobe (Kaili) she wouldn't eat the Possum, but she would make sure bones were crunched if she got a hold of it. Those Possums never got to play "Possum".

I worry more about Armadillos since they can carry leprosy.
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Control Freak, I LOVE your user name! I should have that name, LOL! Because I am, to a severe degree.

As everyone said already, don't worry about the "creature." Raw prey is totally fine for dogs. Cooked bones tend to splinter, which is why a lot of people don't feed bones at all, but raw bones, even raw bird bones, are just fine.

I lived many years with a dog that would eat anything she could clamp her teeth on, whether animal, vegetable, or mineral. Seriously, she would eat absolutely anything. I once ran across a tip (right after a $1,500 obstruction surgery) about hydrogen peroxide that helped my anxiety a LOT. One tablespoon after she ate something I knew would cause a problem, then outside, and 5 minutes later, it all came up, so I didn't have to fuss and fret and wonder if it was going to get through to the other end. Most of the time, all she ate was grass, or dead critters, neither of which would cause a problem, but there were a few times when I found her noshing on a piece of wood or she got hold of a piece of some plush toy, and I had to make her vomit. The vet is an hour and a half away (the good surgery vet is 2 hours away), so there were times I had to be my own vet. And NO MORE plush toys. And towels or sheets on all the kindling boxes (inspected carefully on a regular basis to make sure no part was missing). God, she made me tired.

I'm glad Rizzo's OK. Doesn't it make you wonder sometimes how their thinking process goes, though? CWAZY PUPPIES!
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But do NOT use hydrogen peroxide if your dog has eaten something that could cause damage coming back up--you wouldn't want to use it for sharp bones, hard shards of plastic or spiky sticks, for example. Or corrosive liquids. It is always a good idea to call your vet and see if they recommend that you use it in a particular case, but sometimes emergencies happen and the vet isn't around.

Certainly for cloth or bad food if your vet is unreachable, hydrogen peroxide can be worth trying. I keep a bottle of it in my dog emergency supplies, in fact. If it's been more than 2 hours since the dog has eaten whatever you're worried about, the thing has probably moved on into the intestines, though.
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Thanks everyone for the responses, sorry itís been awhile for an update, crazy busy over here. Rizzo is doing fine, eating, pooping and playing so it looks like the yakked up all the blanket at the vet..whew! Sully is also doing well, eating, very firm poops and playing too.

I knew about the peroxide trick but it makes me nervous with large amounts of stuff, I worried she might choke or aspirate and being it happened in the middle of the night the only choice would have been an ER vet, which is an hour away.

I loved all of the stories you all shared, especially Fitzmar, I bet she had an uncomfortable few moments with a live bunny in her belly! Ecin, your story remind me of the time adult caught a baby bird, he was super gentle with it but every time he picked it up it would squeal and flap around violently and he would spit it out! Lol
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But do NOT use hydrogen peroxide if your dog has eaten something that could cause damage coming back up--you wouldn't want to use it for sharp bones, hard shards of plastic or spiky sticks, for example. Or corrosive liquids. It is always a good idea to call your vet and see if they recommend that you use it in a particular case, but sometimes emergencies happen and the vet isn't around.

Certainly for cloth or bad food if your vet is unreachable, hydrogen peroxide can be worth trying. I keep a bottle of it in my dog emergency supplies, in fact. If it's been more than 2 hours since the dog has eaten whatever you're worried about, the thing has probably moved on into the intestines, though.
I should have explained better, sorry! You're absolutely right. Sometimes I'm hurrying and I get to typing and forget some of the important parts.

I'm glad Rizzo's better. There's nothing more satisfying than seeing a nice normal poop after an "incident" like this, is there? Hug your little chow-hound for me!
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Sorry to bump an older thread, but it was too entertaining and I had to share my own story.

When Atlas was younger, he used to prowl around the yard "hunting". One day, I watched him pounce on something and pick it up in his mouth. Then he came prancing toward me. As he got closer, I saw this mouse tail waving wildly in the air outside his mouth, as he's trying so hard to come in the house and show me what he has.

He manages to get in the house and I'm trying to push him back out the door because now I can hear these godawful noises from inside his mouth. Squeaks. That mouse is still alive.

I manage to herd him back out the door and tell him to "drop it!". He drops this poor mouse, who lands on the deck and just looks stunned. Atlas is sitting beside me, looking like he's brought me the best gift in the world as I'm holding his collar to make sure he doesn't try to finish this poor creature off.

Once this mouse caught its bearings, it went zipping across the yard, still damp from Atlas' saliva. He never brought me an animal again, thank goodness.
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