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Pyogranuloma Syndrome

My girl DJ is now 7.5 years old, and the past year has been total hell for us. Last summer she blew out her CCL and had to have knee surgery. It took 6 full months for her to heal enough to have a normal gait again. Then in May of this year, she had to have a large skin tag surgically removed from her lower eyelid. A couple weeks after that, she got really sick. Face was swollen twice its size, lost 17 pounds in 5 weeks, jaws so sore she could barely open her mouth to eat even a liquid diet, eye membranes got red and swollen across her pupils, she could barely see. Vet visits on a weekly, and sometimes bi-weekly, basis to try to figure out what the heck was going on with her. Tested first for lymphoma. Negative. Tested for blastomycosis. Negative. Lyme disease. Nope. Vet took a huge lump of tissue out of her right lower jaw, through her mouth cavity and sent it off for a biopsy. The results came back as 'Acinetobacter Lwoffii" (drug-resistant bacteria) as a secondary issue, and Pyogranuloma syndrome (another drug-resistant bacteria that attacks skin and soft tissue). She has been on several autoimmune meds and prednisone for 3 months now. Just this week, she is starting to show some real improvement. Until this week, she would get a little better for 3 or 4 days, then wake up with her face and jaws swollen up like a balloon again, and we would be back to square one. I have lots of people that have been constantly praying for DJ, and at one point, I honestly thought she had died during the night. She was motionless and breathing so shallow, I couldnt even tell if she was breathing at all. My vet is a God send, though, and he has worked so hard at trying to find the right combination of meds that will help her. This is a very rare, complex disease, and in fact, is more of a human disease than a canine thing. I have NO idea how she contracted it. She is getting better, but it's such a slow antagonizing process, not to mention the expense of having ct scans, x rays, biopsies, blood work, and very expensive medicines. Just thought I would put this out there in case someone else has a similar problem with their dog. Dont give up. Just find a vet that is dedicated to find out what the problem is and do everything they can to get your dog through it.
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-07-2019, 05:33 PM
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Thanks for posting your story's hard not to feel alone and, well, almost persecuted by fate, when you have to deal with a rare and involved condition that requires such prolonged treatment. It helps so much to know that other people are out there who really understand what you're going through, because they've been there themselves.

Hang in there.
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Wow, is right. Just when you think you have most things that could go wrong, another one appears. What at ordeal you are going through and poor DJ. I have never encountered this, but appreciate you sharing it with us. Hopefully someone else on the forum can help. Did your vet indicate any hope for healing? I do feel your pain and I hope you can find help.

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Make that 3 wows ! Thanks for posting up this info , I had never heard of this type of thing before .

Hoping that she gets straightened h ow very quickly !

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So sorry to hear you are going through this! Before I got to the diagnosis I was going to ask if it was MMM ( I sure hope you are able to get improvement for your girl.

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Thanks a bunch for posting your experience with an unusual problem. This forum has had several things that were posted that helped someone with a mystery illness going on with their dog--sometimes being able t take information like this to the vet actually enables them to make a diagnosis.

So, many thanks for taking the time and trouble to pass your information along--sorry you've had to go thru it but it may buy some future dog help.

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