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More understanding- food linked to DCM

The more I read about the topic, the more complex I realize it is. Have to wonder if certain nutritional alterations from a naturally all meat diet can cause and/or enhance and/or speed up the genetic expression of DCM in Dobermans. Wish someone was running a study on the longevity/lack of DCM in raw fed Dobermans.

I’m generally fascinated with how gene expression can be turned off/on and have long thought that is a likely player in the DCM disease in our breed.

Anyway, musings aside, here’s an interesting article explaining how complex the food/DCM issue is. http://https://m.onlynaturalpet.com/...e-in-dogs.aspx

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Taurine, Dog Food, and Heart Disease in Dogs
by Dr. Jean Hofve, Holistic Veterinarian, DVM • Last updated December 6, 2018

In July 2018, the FDA released a warning about grain-free dog foods and their possible connection to the development of a serious heart disease in dogs. Is this warning justified, based on science? Let's take a look.

What is Taurine?
Taurine is an amino acid found primarily in meat. It is abundant in the brain, the eye (especially the retina), muscle tissue, and many organs. It is an essential component of bile acids, which are produced in the liver, stored in the gallbladder, and used to break down fats from food.

Most mammals produce their own taurine from precursors. (The notable exception is cats, who must consume taurine in their diet.) The first step involves the sulfur-containing essential amino acid methionine, which is used to make another amino acid, cysteine (also spelled "cystine"). Finally, taurine is made from cysteine.

History
Before WWII, more than 90% of commercial pet food came in cans, and contained mostly if not only meat. However, metal was needed for the military, and by the time the war ended, 85% of pet food was dry kibble. It still contained a good amount of meat, and this is what prevented taurine deficiencies from occurring.

The primary machinery for producing what we now know as dry food is called an extruder; it was introduced in the 1950s. To get the correct consistency of dough for the extruder, the recipe called for a minimum amount of starch. This started the trend of ever-increasing quantities of cereal grain, such as corn, in dry foods. At the same time, meat processors were getting more proficient at getting more meat from livestock carcasses; so pet food makers substituted other leftover animal tissues or “by-products.” Over time, the result was a high-grain, low-meat dry food, for which the profit margin was—conveniently—much higher than for canned food.

In the late 1970s, cats started going blind or dying of congestive heart failure due to a condition called dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM). Many of those cats were eating the same food (Hill's Science Diet); and this was noticed by researchers at UC Davis. In the mid 1980s, they published the results of their research showing that taurine deficiency was the issue. Pet food manufacturers hastened to supplement taurine in their diets. Since then, DCM (dilated cardiomyopathy) dramatically decreased in cats eating commercial, "balanced" cat food. Cats can spontaneously develop DCM unrelated to taurine, and a genetic form exists in Maine coon cats and a few other breeds and lines.

Taurine and Dogs
Dogs make their own taurine from sulfur-containing amino acids, primarily cysteine, but also methionine. It was thought that, because they could produce it themselves, dogs didn’t need supplemental taurine.

However, it is also known that that big dogs produce taurine at a slower rate than small dogs, putting them at risk for a deficiency. Genetics also play a significant role, with certain breeds and family lines being predisposed to developing DCM.

The existence of a link between taurine deficiency and DCM in dogs has been known since1997—some dogs can’t supply their own taurine needs. Certain lines of spaniels, retrievers (notably Golden Retrievers), and particularly Newfoundlands, are known to develop the same taurine-dependent form of DCM that had killed thousands of cats.

DCM is a common form of heart disease in dogs, especially in large and giant breeds, who produce less taurine than smaller dogs on the same diet. Diet is a likely factor in about 20-30% of dogs with DCM, for which supplementing taurine may reverse the disease.

However, it may not be a specific taurine deficiency in the food that is a contributing factor in DCM. Some research suggests it may be insufficient cysteine that limits the dog's ability to produce taurine. Remember that dogs make cysteine from methionine, and taurine from cysteine. Any weak link in the chain of methionine, cysteine or taurine could be problematic.

Because of this dependency, only methionine has a minimum level in dog food according to current AAFCO standards; and there is also a minimum for the combination of methionine + cysteine.

L-carnitine, another amino acid found primarily in meat, may also play a role in the development of DCM in a small percentage of dogs. L-carnitine becomes unavailable in pet food through processing, and is generally not added back due to its high cost.

In early studies, most of the dogs with DCM were eating lamb and rice dog foods. Lamb has a relatively low level of sulfur-containing amino acids compared to chicken and other poultry. Another study found that dogs eating foods containing beet pulp had lower blood taurine levels.

Possible reasons for low blood taurine levels in dogs fed an otherwise "complete and balanced food" include:

Differences in protein digestibility and bioavailability may limit available precursors
Interference with reabsorption of taurine-containing bile acids in the gut so that more taurine is excreted
Interaction of food and/or food form (canned vs. dry) with gut bacteria
"Most importantly, of the tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dogs eating "boutique" and grain-free foods, only a handful are related to the problem. It is not time to press the panic button yet, despite the media frenzy."

The Current Situation
The FDA reported a link between DCM and "grain-free" dog foods that rely heavily on potatoes, legumes, and exotic proteins. Vegan and homemade diets were also reportedly involved. This caught FDA's attention because some of the dogs were not the breeds that commonly develop DCM due to taurine deficiency, including Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers, Whippets, Miniature Schnauzers, one Shih Tzu, one Bulldog, and an unspecified number of mixed-breed dogs.

Specifically, the FDA stated that "potatoes or multiple legumes such as peas, lentils, other “pulses” (seeds of legumes), and their protein, starch and fiber" were main ingredients of the food in several cases of DCM reported to the agency. Note the careful language used in its statement: potatoes are singled out, but with regard to legumes, multiple legumes and their isolated components were included in implicated diets.

Subsequently, FDA has emphasized that people should "not tak[e] intuitive leaps beyond what is explicitly stated in our public notice." That is, don't think that all legumes are problematic—just the ones specifically noted.

Unfortunately, FDA failed to indicate whether the associated foods were dry, canned, or both. But it's probably safe to assume that most or all were dry foods, since that is what most dogs are fed in the U.S. However, in the case of cats, canned foods need supplemented taurine at a much higher level than dry foods, because cats' gut bacteria interact differently with those food forms.

Based on FDA's statement and previous research, the ingredients most correlated with DCM in dogs and used in dog foods are:

Animal Products: Bison, Duck, Lamb, Kangaroo, Salmon, and Venison

Plant Products: Barley, Chickpeas, Fava Beans, Lentils, Peas, Potatoes, Rice/Rice Bran**, Tapioca

** Previous studies found taurine deficiency in dogs (and cats) eating diets containing rice or rice bran

While it was not named by FDA in this situation, beet pulp is known to decrease taurine status in dogs under some conditions.

FDA also suggested that food made by small "boutique" manufacturers were more likely to be problematic. Indeed, some of the foods I found that were guilty of "ingredient splitting" and overloading plant proteins are from small manufacturers.

It's odd that this problem should occur now, even though potatoes have been used in dog food—particularly "hypoallergenic" formulas—for decades. Even worse, many such foods also include lamb or other listed ingredient as the primary or sole animal protein. Hill's Science Diet d/d lists potatoes, potato starch, (venison, salmon, or duck), and potato protein as its first four ingredients. One would think these foods would be particularly dangerous. But… there is added taurine in these foods. Vegetarian and vegan dog foods include both taurine and carnitine. Clearly, this issue was not hard to anticipate.

Of course, correlation does not equal causation, and there may be other factors involved. There are dozens of grain-free dog foods on the market, and without knowing which brands were involved, it's impossible to know for certain which ingredients are at fault.

Unfortunately, some media reports have focused on legumes, even though potatoes are a far more common pet food ingredient. Legumes are very nutritious, and used properly, can be a very healthy dog food ingredient.

Many "boutique" grain-free diets contain two or more of the ingredients noted by FDA. For example, several salmon-based foods also contain potatoes and/or beet pulp; another lists kangaroo, kangaroo meal, peas, chickpeas, pea flour, red lentils, and green lentils as its major ingredients. If kangaroo, like lamb, is borderline on taurine, the combination of five legumes could easily outweigh the meat, and limit a dog's ability to produce taurine. Several other foods list up to five legumes/derivatives, sometimes in addition to potatoes or a listed lower-taurine meat like venison or lamb, as major ingredients.

As with cats, some dog foods are inordinately high in plant-based products and not so much meat. Certainly, plant proteins are often used to increase total protein and decrease cost in many dog foods.

Ingredients are listed by weight on the label; using multiple legumes, potatoes, or fractions thereof (a practice referred to as "splitting") allows a company to include far more plant protein than meat protein, while allowing the named meat to remain at the top of the ingredient panel. So, it may not be legumes that are the problem; rather, it may be an overwhelming amount of legumes.

Most small-manufacturer and grain-free diets are relatively high in protein, but the proportion of plant to animal sources may be a crucial factor for those foods implicated by the FDA.

There are other factors that could affect dogs' blood taurine levels. Perhaps there is some intrinsic factor in legumes and potatoes that is acting as an "anti-nutrient"—or something is happening during processing—that is causing taurine in these foods to become unavailable. Taurine from fish is diminished by heat processing; the loss is about 30%. Type of food (dry vs. canned) alters taurine bioavailability in cats through the action of gut bacteria; perhaps this is true for dogs as well. These possibilities have not been explored at all in dogs.

Conclusions
It is important to note that not all dogs with DCM—and not even all the dogs with very low blood levels of taurine—responded to taurine supplementation. Conversely, many of the sick dogs had normal blood taurine levels. One study concluded that " there was no clear relationship between low [whole blood taurine] and presence of DCM."

The association is far more complicated than simply blaming the problem on legumes, as many news reports have done. There is clearly a relationship between genetics and one or several of the 15 above-listed ingredients, as well as the food's overall content of methionine, cysteine, l-carnitine, taurine, that is causing DCM. But no one has any idea which factors are problematic, and in what amounts or combinations. It is likely that multiple factors are involved; for example, it may take multiple listed ingredients, plus a genetic predisposition toward DCM, to develop the disease.

It does seem likely that in a product containing sufficient animal protein, taurine levels will be adequate. If a food has an animal protein at the top of the ingredient list, but also contains four or five plant proteins that—in reality—constitute the majority of total protein, thus diluting and short-changing the taurine, then that may be the real problem.

One thing that is clear from all this is that AAFCO needs to revisit its Nutrient Profiles (which are based on research published prior to 2003) and either (1) increase the minimum for methionine, (2) increase the minimum for methionine-cystine (sic), and/or (3) add a notation that cysteine and taurine are essential—or at least conditionally essential—amino acids for dogs.

Most importantly, of the tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dogs eating "boutique" and grain-free foods, only a handful are related to the problem. It is not time to press the panic button yet, despite the media frenzy.

However, it would be helpful if pet food manufacturers would test for the four key amino acids to ensure that levels are sufficient for all dogs, or simply supplement taurine in food for dogs, as they already do for cats.

If one is feeding a potentially taurine-deficient food, it would be a good idea to give supplemental taurine at up to 1000 mg per day for every 40 pounds of the dog's body weight. Taurine, which usually comes in capsules of 500 or 1000 mg, is very safe even at extremely high doses. It has very little taste; and is relatively easy to give.

References
AAFCO (Association of American Feed Control Officials). Official Publication. 2018 (revised 4/1/18). (Available at http://www.aafco.org/Publications)

Backus RC, Ko KS, Fascetti AJ, et al., Low plasma taurine concentration in Newfoundland dogs is associated with low plasma methionine and cyst(e)ine concentrations and low taurine synthesis. Journal of Nutrition. 2006; 136:2525-2533.

Basili M, Pedro B, Hodgkiss-Geere X. Taurine deficiency in English cocker spaniels diagnosed with dilated cardiomyopathy. Research Communications of the 26th ECVIM-CA Congress. 2017. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/jvim.14600

Delaney SJ, Kass PH, Rogers QR, et al. Plasma and whole blood taurine in normal dogs of varying size fed commercially prepared food. Journal of Animal Physiology and Animal Nutrition (Berl). 2003 Jun;87(5-6):236-44.

Fascetti AJ, Reed JR, Rogers QR, Backus RC. Taurine deficiency in dogs with dilated cardiomyopathy: 12 cases (1997-2001). Journal of the America Veterinary Medical Association. 2003 Oct 15;223(8):1137-41.

Freeman LM, Rush JE. Nutrition and cardiomyopathy: lessons from spontaneous animal models. Current Heart Failure Reports. 2007 Jun;4(2):84-90.

Ko SK, Backus RCC, Berg JR, et al. Differences in Taurine Synthesis Rate among Dogs Relate to Differences in Their Maintenance Energy Requirement. Journal of Nutrition. 2007 May; 137(5):1171-5

Ko SK, Fascetti AJ. Dietary beet pulp decreases taurine status in dogs fed low protein diet. Journal of Animal Science and Technology. 2016;58:29.

Kramer GA, Kittleson MD, Fox PR, Lewis J, Pion PD. Plasma taurine concentrations in normal dogs and in dogs with heart disease. Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine. 1995 Jul-Aug;9(4):253-8.

NRC (National Research Council). Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats. The National Academies Press. 2006.

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Great read Trish.
I am not a "jump on the bandwagon" kind of guy. Still, I just moved McCoy from Acana Meadowland to Purina Pro Plan as his base kibble. No problem. But this is a dog that will eat and does well on anything.

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Its a Dynamic issue! I have always wondered what role does a dogs emotions play into this issue.
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I think in Dobermans, it is much more complex due to DCM being complex and genetic. I've been feeding grain free for many years and feel pretty good about the ages/health of my dogs. I have introduced a grain inclusive kibble from the same company (Annamaet) and mix it with the grain free. Of course, they get a lot more than just kibble.... so that has to factor in too. For sure the one thing I refuse to do is leave a really high quality company for one that uses lower quality ingredients .

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This article is old and doesn't account for the FDA's latest update. While it contains some good information it also omits the fact that Golden Retrievers have been known as a breed to be prone to taurine deficiency (but DCM due to this is new).
It also doesn't include the fact that several of the dogs diagnosed with DCM and suspected nutritional, had normal taurine levels when tested. Dobermans often have normal taurine levels when diagnosed with their familial DCM.

For sure it seems like this is unfolding to be as big a puzzle as our breed's familial/genetic DCM.

here is some additional reading by a veterinary nutritionist:

https://weethnutrition.wordpress.com...y-july-2-2019/

So what do we know?

1. Not all cases are taurine deficient. Many of the dogs diagnosed with diet-associated DCM in the last 2 years had low taurine levels, but not all. Whether low or normal taurine levels were measured, most dogs if caught early had improvement in clinical signs and reversal of cardiac changes when their previous diet was stopped and taurine was supplemented.

2.Not all dogs eating “grain-free” diets are affected. There are an estimated 20 million dogs eating diets marketed as “grain-free” that include some combination of legumes (peas, lentils, chickpeas, pinto, etc.) or potato (sweet or white), or both, and only (only?!) 515 reported cases of diet-associated DCM in dogs since 2017.

3.Large breed dogs are at an increased risk, but even small dogs are affected. Large breed dogs account for 338 out of the 515 reported cases, but Shih tzus and Shetland Sheepdogs are on the list, too.

4. Dry dog foods are the predominant type reported, but raw and home-cooked make the list, too. This probably has more to do with the relative popularity of these diet types rather than some inherent risk/benefit of a particular food type.

5.“Grain-Free” is a marketing ploy and not based on any scientific or nutritional studies. There is no proven health benefit to avoiding grains in your dog’s diet unless they have a documented food allergy (which is actually very uncommon). Grains play a lot of roles in the diet, and most of these roles are pretty helpful at optimizing health.

What don’t we know?

1.We don’t know the true scope of the problem. In people, underreporting of adverse drug effects is a well-known problem with some reviews indicating that as high as 95% of adverse reactions go unreported. Which means we may be seeing only the 5% of actual cases that were reported to the FDA and it could be closer to 10,000 dogs that are affected. It takes time to report a suspected adverse food event and Veterinarians and Caregivers may not realize the value of this reporting. Additionally, many owners may contact the pet food manufacturer if there is a problem rather than the FDA assuming that the information is getting relayed to the government agency.

2. We don’t know where the problem is coming from. All grain-free diets are being targeted by media outlets and some enthusiastic pet “advocates”, but we don’t know if this is a problem with all grain-free diets (probably not), peas and legumes (maybe, especially at high amounts), and/or questionable formulations and manufacturing processes (probably, yes). When peas are included at relatively low levels in the diet (less than 20% of the total recipe) or as occasional treats they do not appear to cause a problem, but none of the diets from any of the brands on the FDA’s recent list have gone through controlled feeding and digestibility trials to prove that they are safe and healthy for dogs at the level of legume inclusion they use, which can be over 40% of the recipe when all types and portions are added up.

3.We don’t know if this is an ingredient, dog, or manufacturer problem (or maybe all three). I suspect we will find that peas and potatoes in the hands of experienced formulators and experienced pet food manufacturers and for the majority of dogs are not the problem. The problem will be (like it was in the early 2000s when poorly formulated lamb and rice dog foods were causing DCM in dogs) a failure of certain manufacturers to account for variation in ingredient quality, changes in digestibility with processing, and individual variation in the dog population. Do affected dogs have low taurine production? Do they have increased loss from their gut? Do they have normal production and gut handling, but a low total food intake and are just getting inadequate intake overall? Meeting minimum nutrient levels on paper is not enough. Pet food manufacturers must know or hire knowledgeable individuals with an understanding for how nutrient levels vary in the raw materials, how they are affected by other ingredients or nutrients in the mix, the effect of cooking (or lack of cooking) on nutrient stability and bioavailability, and the wide range of variability in genetics and food intakes in the dog population. Basing diet formulations on market trends rather than nutritional science is a recipe for disaster.

4.We don’t know if the percentages of the brands reported simply represent their popularity and market share or an underlying problem with these companies. Maybe the three most frequent brands reported are really no better or worse than the least frequent three brands, they are just better at marketing their diets so more people buy them. I don’t have access to those market insights to know whether this is true or not, but I bet these companies do.
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Link to another thread, which repeats some of the same info presented here, but may be good for more reading:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...d-renamed.html
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There are only a few known facts:

1) All the data released is greatly lacking in significant scientific answers.

2) The links between diet and DCM are reported in nearly equal number of grain free dry fed dogs and grain included dry fed dogs, with a slightly greater percentage being grain included dry diet. (So, yeah, exactly WHY did the FDA name and slam 16 grain free brands??)

3) Solid fact: dry diets = <89% of cases reported in the studies of diet-associated DCM, while raw diet = >1% of cases reported in the same studies. Undefined semi-moist and home cooked are the remaining percentage of cases. However, FDA continually advises no one to go out and start feeding raw because that is “dangerous “.

4) Most dogs being diagnosed with DCM do not have low taurine levels.

5) Extreme numbers of dog owners have switched to the top 4 powerhouse dog food companies since all the most recent FDA negative comments about a large group of smaller companies. Veterinarians are almost exclusively recommending those 4 manufacturers.

6) The top dog food companies and AVMA were well prepared, production-wise, marketing-wise and advice-wise, at the point the public was informed the latest FDA recommendations.

PLEASE. As in all important decisions about your dog’s health, do the research and read all available slants/facts. Be aware that more recent is not always more relevant. Please remember that most information pushed on us in the headlines, particularly when it applies to a huge profit industry, has monetary gain for some entity behind the way the information is presented.

Think for yourself. Go past a headline. Analyze motive. Search for propaganda, which is just a fancy word for marketing, not an evil accusation. It’s often there, so just try to figure out where the facts are.

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I agree. Been feeding grain free Fromm for awhile now. Not because I purposely looked for grain free, but this was the food that I found didn't give my dogs the itches. It works, they are healthy, and they gobble it down like they enjoy it. I tried switching once to save money. Bad mistake. Dogs went itch crazy.

Before Fromm, it was regular Innova, which also worked until they changed the formula. Then Evo, which was adequate but seems like they also changed at some point. Tried Canidae also, no luck. Went to standard Fromm, which they loved and seemed to work. Would switch them between 4 flavors with no problems. Then noticed the Chicken formula was not liked by my Female and her skin wasn't as shiny as it usually is and slight itching. Went to the grain free and boom, winner. No itching, dogs love it, I can switch between flavors with no problems. Downside is it is kind of pricey, especially with 3 big dogs and one small one. Poop is not quite as hard as I would like it to be, but not soft by any means.

My last female lived to 13 on it. We had to put her down a few years ago due to quality of life issues. Sad, sad day. Current female is very healthy and approaching 8. Male turned 3 today.

The Victor High Pro I tried recently trying to pinch pennies was not grain free and their poop was perfect, but the itching came back, so back to Fromm grain free we went.
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