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Cool Torn Metatarsal Pad (big toe pad rear)

Off to the vet today..........appears Hoss has torn his.... left rear .....big toe .....pad.........not bleeding ...but constantly licking the wound.
Happened yesterday evening ......as he chased a critter. Shame ...shame........Hoss!!!
At first I was going to deal with toe pad issue on my own since it was not bleeding ......but after googling for some intel about toe pads.....appears best to attend vet appointment.
So thought this would deserve a new thread.
Will be in touch with the vet recommended treatment plan.

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Poor Hoss!! Its easy to tear your toe off when you have your sights set on a critter!!

Hope all works well for you guys.

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Poor Hoss--tell him the last time one of my dogs really ripped a toe pad (front center) it made a three cornered tear with a flap of pad still hanging and he would not leave it alone.

Yes, we went to the vet (actually I went to work and took him along) and when one of the vets had a canceled appointment and some time he looked at it and said--"I'm going to use lidocane and numb the toe and trim off the hanging flap and clean out the crap he's managed to imbed in the divot he's got there and then we'll do a foot bandage. And you'd better learn how to bandage it because it'll probably be bandaged for awhile before that heals up enough for him to not lick it any more."

So he cleaned it and trimmed off the flap and washed it with a chlorhexadine soltion and one of our tech's did a sugar bandage (sugar for open, dirty wounds like that works really well to prevent infections) and the vet came back and gave him a shot of a a long lasting antibiotic and he got to wear the muzzle he usually wore in the yard to keep him eating grass and when he was outside he got to wear a "boot"--that consisted of one of the empty fluid bags with holes punched in it to tie around his ankle so he wouldn't get it wet. The muzzle also kept him from trying to take off the bandage or licking it until it was soggy. I changed it every morning and it took about two weeks as I recall before he finally got to have no bandage and about another week to keep him from licking the how pretty healed area.

Foot wounds are a pain in the a$$. I can't wait to hear what Hoss' fate is.

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Those IV bags are great for keeping foot bandages dry...they are thick very tough plastic. We punched holes in the top and used stretchy surgical tubing to tie them on. I had one or two; they lasted for several dog foot injuries. I kept them with my dog first aid stuff--they're nice to have on hand.

An extra that Bug alluded to that you probably already know...foot pad injuries are generally not stitched up because you risk just sealing in all the dirt and crud that has gathered in the cut. You can't really get all of the contamination out and can end up with infections pocketed in the wound if you stitch the wound up.
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Those IV bags are great for keeping foot bandages dry...they are thick very tough plastic. We punched holes in the top and used stretchy surgical tubing to tie them on. I had one or two; they lasted for several dog foot injuries. I kept them with my dog first aid stuff--they're nice to have on hand.

An extra that Bug alluded to that you probably already know...foot pad injuries are generally not stitched up because you risk just sealing in all the dirt and crud that has gathered in the cut. You can't really get all of the contamination out and can end up with infections pocketed in the wound if you stitch the wound up.
Yeah, we keep a bunch of I.V. bags of different sizes at the clinic--mostly we use a stretchy gauze-like stuff when putting them on at the clinic--I always have several at home and found that old shoe laces work really well too for tieing them in place.

Melbrod brings up a good point--there are several types of wounds that don't get sutured. Puncture wounds because it's likely to seal in bacteria you don't want there or they drain and you want them to do that. And very open wounds, and foot wounds often fall into that category--not only are inevitably dirty just from where they are but oven they involved loss of skin over a substantial are and really need to stay open so they can be cleaned and so that they can granulate in from the bottom.

And Paris is burning--actually it's the Notre Dame Cathedral--the long time landmark tower is gone--it was in sorry shape and was undergoing it's second major repair/renovation but it's just plain gone now and they are trying to stop the flames n the main building itself. How very much too bad. This newscaster believes that Paris will find a way to rebuild that tower.

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I'm thinking the best they may be able to do is save the square towers and make the rest a sort of park memorial with as much of the walls standing as they can save...

The way they did with Coventry Cathedral (not NEARLY as massive), bombed during WWII...the memorial they made from it.

Adding.......But now they're saying the fire has spread to at least one of the two square towers.

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Vet visit went OK.......He took a big chunk out of that back pad.
So treatment plan is:
Cone when we are not monitoring him to keep him from eating himself and to prevent OCD tendancies that accompany this breed.
Dermavet ointment for few days.......then dry dry dry.....nothing wet to be applied for several weeks.
Even if he gets sandy paws........no need to rinse or anything.
Goal is to scab up and let that toe pad harden.
She trimmed off the large piece of hanging skin......she told me ......IT HURTS.........so we are using Galliprant (non steroid anti-inflammatory)
So I guess no swimming for awhile......bummer.
Meanwhile ....Hoss is napping now...........real tough day
Oh well..............moving forward ..............

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I'm thinking the best they may be able to do is save the square towers and make the rest a sort of park memorial with as much of the walls standing as they can save...

The way they did with Coventry Cathedral (not NEARLY as massive), bombed during WWII...the memorial they made from it.

Adding.......But now they're saying the fire has spread to at least one of the two square towers.
Mel - What does this have to do with a banged up toe ? LOL Maybe wrong tread - lol

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See the last paragraph of Bug's previous post--SHE started it.

It's not due to terrorism we very very very much hope, but as shocking to the Parisians as the two towers' collapse was for NYC.....The cathedral is (was) 850 years old and took 100 years to build...

I put comments on the chicken thread too
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See the last paragraph of Bug's previous post--SHE started it.

It's not due to terrorism we very very very much hope, but as shocking to the Parisians as the two towers' collapse was for NYC.....The cathedral is (was) 850 years old and took 100 years to build...

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Mel - I will give you that ! I even read Aunt B's post ! lol

And Paris is burning--actually it's the Notre Dame Cathedral--the long time landmark tower is gone--it was in sorry shape and was undergoing it's second major repair/renovation but it's just plain gone now and they are trying to stop the flames n the main building itself. How very much too bad. This newscaster believes that Paris will find a way to rebuild that tower.

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So Aunt b . What does this have to do with a banged up toe ??? YOU popping pills again - lmao
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Hoss says ....oh well ......so much for my toe............bad karma I guess...........no one cares........BUT DUDES.........MAN I THOUGHT I HAD A CHANCE TO CATCH THAT CAT!!!!! THE SAME CATS THAT SIT ON THE SIDEWALK CASUALLY LICKING THEIR PAWS DAY IN DAY OUT ......while I am barking my azz off at them............drats to the cats [email protected]@@@!!! Dobe Power !!!!
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Mel - I will give you that ! I even read Aunt B's post ! lol

And Paris is burning--actually it's the Notre Dame Cathedral--the long time landmark tower is gone--it was in sorry shape and was undergoing it's second major repair/renovation but it's just plain gone now and they are trying to stop the flames n the main building itself. How very much too bad. This newscaster believes that Paris will find a way to rebuild that tower.

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So Aunt b . What does this have to do with a banged up toe ??? YOU popping pills again - lmao
As well you might ask Kenny! It was because there is a television in the same room as the computer--sometimes baseball games are on it and I often turn it on when I'm feeling neglected and need some background noise.

So when the television was on and whatever was the actual program disappeared and there was this picture of the very recognizable big Rose window of Notre Dame cathedral--the sound wasn't even on yet but you could see flames--big flames behind that which were engulfing the section where the very tall central tower stood. Then the sound came on just as the tower (which is mostly metal) split in two and fell apart and disappeared. Later I heard that most of what still was left of the tower dropped into the main building causing much more damage there.

Why did I put it into Lady Di and Hoss's toe post--because it was such a shock having it come up on the tv just as I was finishing the post that I typed the sentence that read "Paris is burning!" I also put it in the CT. You can read more there.

But that's why.

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For those reading along that need to keep a foot dry and might live in areas with stuff like...snow...I find Glad Press and Seal to work even better than the IV bags. Sometimes the IV bag isn't tall enough to keep the water (or snow) out. Press and Seal works FABULOUS - simply wrap, press tightly making sure everything is covered, and it will keep everything totally dry. You can then unwrap and discard when you come in. My vet recommended that when we had to deal with a broken toe/cast situation in snow.
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SNOW....MC just can't stop mentioning it--she's scarred for life.

I do hope it is done til next fall/winter though. They've decided the next little blibbit that comes through on Wednesday may come down as rain here.
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He doing OK this am.........he coned...........man o man he wants to eat on that toe big time........!
He handles a cone just fine though..............

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For those reading along that need to keep a foot dry and might live in areas with stuff like...snow...I find Glad Press and Seal to work even better than the IV bags. Sometimes the IV bag isn't tall enough to keep the water (or snow) out. Press and Seal works FABULOUS - simply wrap, press tightly making sure everything is covered, and it will keep everything totally dry. You can then unwrap and discard when you come in. My vet recommended that when we had to deal with a broken toe/cast situation in snow.
Oooooo--what a good idea Meadowcat. It's sure true that snow is much harder to keep stuff dry in--I hated tracking in snow--because even when it was only an inch or two the track always ended up going through a drift that was deeper than my 16" boots were tall. And there's no early way to keep anything on a dogs foot dry.

Thanks for the great idea--even if I never have to use it it's something to keep n mind to pass along to someone who does.

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So LD...

A while back McCoy broke a front toenail off while doing Zoomies in the backyard.

I took him to his vet. They anesthetized him and removed the toenail. They bandaged it and told me to keep it clean and dry.

Right... Here in Portland?!? where it rains for almost about 6 months? LOL.

Well, I bought a pack of disposable/reusable rubber booties. The brand name was Protect PAWZ. They worked wonderfully.

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Thanks .......I was wondering what I could use later in a month or so when I take him swimming again..........noticed last week some glass from all the evening partiers............darn kids..........with white sand real easy for glass to be under the sand and not see it until you step on it.........I am normally wearing old shoes in the water ...thinking I should keep his feet covered while out there ...rubber looks like it would stay on his feet for 30 minutes or so.........thanks
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He's a sneaky licker!!!!
Been having to keep him inside more ...just trying to prevent him from pulling the scab........want it to heal quickly.........he does all that boy skidding crap when he see's a cat or poops.
Man o man........ever since his recent romp up and down the street (thats when he hurt his toe) ....his prey drive light is turned on................big time with cats.
We worked so hard to settled him down in that area.........now he's just constantly scoping like a dude looking for a bar fight......ugg....back to the drawing board.

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