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Sully needs to lose a few pounds....

Sully has packed on 5-10 pounds since the start of winter and needs to lose some weight. Looking for some suggestions on how much I should reduce his food, I was thinking about 1/2 cup a day. He currently gets 4 cups a day at 410 cal each.
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That sounds about right - you can add bulk with no calories by adding some green beans.... fresh, frozen, or canned (no salt).
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That sounds about right - you can add bulk with no calories by adding some green beans.... fresh, frozen, or canned (no salt).
Thanks! Sully loves all veggies so it will be like an extra treat to him.
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Hi C_F. Yeah... in the winter, with all the rain we get here, McCoy's exercise is compromised.

I generally feed him 4 cups of Acana Meadowland split between 2 feedings. If he looks like he is starting to gain weight, I will cut his kibble by about 1/2 cup per feeding. Now... He gets all kinds of other food (eggs, yogurt, cottage cheese, raw meat, fresh fruit and vegetables, etc.), so its not particularly a drastic reduction in calories. Just consistent.

It works... His recent vet visit had him a 85 3/4 lb., which both his vet and I agreed was perfect.

For a lot of folks, simply reducing the "treats/rewards" can really help. McCoy gets meat based organic treats on a regular basis for simply complying with my wishes (like "come inside"). Oddly enough, he is just as happy with a few frozen peas or blueberries. LOL

Those highly caloric treats can really add up!

It's just a matter of being vigilant.

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Hi C_F. Yeah... in the winter, with all the rain we get here, McCoy's exercise is compromised.

I generally feed him 4 cups of Acana Meadowland split between 2 feedings. If he looks like he is starting to gain weight, I will cut his kibble by about 1/2 cup per feeding. Now... He gets all kinds of other food (eggs, yogurt, cottage cheese, raw meat, fresh fruit and vegetables, etc.), so its not particularly a drastic reduction in calories. Just consistent.

It works... His recent vet visit had him a 85 3/4 lb., which both his vet and I agreed was perfect.

For a lot of folks, simply reducing the "treats/rewards" can really help. McCoy gets meat based organic treats on a regular basis for simply complying with my wishes (like "come inside"). Oddly enough, he is just as happy with a few frozen peas or blueberries. LOL

Those highly caloric treats can really add up!

It's just a matter of being vigilant.

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Sullyís amount of daily treats has gone up with a pup in the house but itís all very healthy....we make our own sweet potato treats and everything else is high quality meat treats like ziwi peaks or Stellaís and chewy freeze dried raw. They also get fresh fruits and veggies.

Iím sure that the extra treats and the lack of exercise with the extreme weather weíve had has contributed to him chunking up a bit. Heís had both of his knees done so I need to get him back to a healthy weight asap.
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When i had to have a dog shed some weight i like to have a scale available for almost daily monitoring. My main reasoning was to know what amount would cause a weight loss and what was a maintenance amount. I felt that a 1/4 # a week of loss was a the right amount with out stressing a food centered dog.
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Fitz nailed it with the green beans - that is what I add to Ali and Mr. B's food at night - I have had to cut back Mr. B some - really I cut him back a half a cup --- both morning and at night - and give Ali about a 1/3 of the can of no salt beans and Mr. B gets the rest = 2/3rds - it has really helped - They LOVE the green beans ! I pour the juice on them too !

The only place I can find them around here is at Wal Mart -
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About treats and weight gain. I rarely use 'real' treats--my dogs (and one of the cats) think anything I hand them is a treat (Clark--the cat--believes that one of the dogs ProPlan Focus kibbles (it's salmon and rice) is a huge treat. But the dogs mostly get trained and rewarded with the same kibble they get for meals twice a day but from my hand one piece at a time.

Most of the time my house is so cold in the winter months that I have to up the kibble that the dogs get--for years the adult males who normally got 2 cups of kibble per meal (two meals a day) had to get nearly a half cup more per meal during the coldest part of the winter months.

But any of my dogs would be thrilled with string beans, carrots or any other vegetables to add bulk--only ever had one Dobe that I had to resort to that--his problem was related to his hypothyroidism and once we got his meds adjusted properly he stopped gaining weight by breathing in the same room food was being served.

If I'm trying to figure out how much kibble will control weight I measure out the food fr the day (that I think is right) and give the kibble hand fed as treats for training or rewards from that daily amount.

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Fitz nailed it with the green beans - that is what I add to Ali and Mr. B's food at night - I have had to cut back Mr. B some - really I cut him back a half a cup --- both morning and at night - and give Ali about a 1/3 of the can of no salt beans and Mr. B gets the rest = 2/3rds - it has really helped - They LOVE the green beans ! I pour the juice on them too !

The only place I can find them around here is at Wal Mart -
man, you feed the good stuff!! I buy the store brand at Giant (our supermarket). I can get no salt in green beans, mixed veggies, and spinach. They love all of them. I just recommend the green beans for weight loss.

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I'm assuming you've had thyroid checked? That's a lot of weight gain for no change in food habits.
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I'm assuming you've had thyroid checked? That's a lot of weight gain for no change in food habits.
I really spaced out on the weight gain since the beginning of winter--that is a big gain for a short period of time. How old is he and has he had his thyroid checked? Untreated hypothyroidism makes it really hard to get weight off a dog and it can definitely cause weight gain without added food or reduction in exercise.
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I'm assuming you've had thyroid checked? That's a lot of weight gain for no change in food habits.
Yes he had his thyroid checked at his yearly, probably 6 months or so ago. When I took him in for a sprained shoulder he had gained around 5 pounds and they commented on it and checked his records for thyroid, everything was good. I figured the extra treats and PB Kongís for my sanity had contributed. I cut out the Kongís. Itís been two months of pretty bad weather here so very little exercise.

Sully is very sensitive to weight gain or loss, I remember when he was on a home cooked diet he was getting about 4000 calories a day and he lost a ton of weight, it just didnít seem to stay with him but as soon as he went back on kibble he packed the pounds back on. Just this summer, my mom was giving me a hard time because she thought he was too skinny, which wasnít the case....she just thinks Dogs should be plump. Her Maltese is sooo FAT!

Sully is also very content to be a couch potato. Iíve cut him back about 1/2 cup and limiting treats, exercise when weather permits. If I donít see a change over the next couple weeks Iíll take him in and see if anything is going on.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
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Yes he had his thyroid checked at his yearly, probably 6 months or so ago. When I took him in for a sprained shoulder he had gained around 5 pounds and they commented on it and checked his records for thyroid, everything was good. I figured the extra treats and PB Kongís for my sanity had contributed. I cut out the Kongís. Itís been two months of pretty bad weather here so very little exercise.

Sully is very sensitive to weight gain or loss, I remember when he was on a home cooked diet he was getting about 4000 calories a day and he lost a ton of weight, it just didnít seem to stay with him but as soon as he went back on kibble he packed the pounds back on. Just this summer, my mom was giving me a hard time because she thought he was too skinny, which wasnít the case....she just thinks Dogs should be plump. Her Maltese is sooo FAT!

Sully is also very content to be a couch potato. Iíve cut him back about 1/2 cup and limiting treats, exercise when weather permits. If I donít see a change over the next couple weeks Iíll take him in and see if anything is going on.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Makes sense! Maybe you can switch to Kongs stuffed with his meals, instead. Mine love their Kongs even if it's just kibble that's held together with a little yogurt, then frozen Good luck on the weight loss!
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