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Blood in Urine

It's been a long time since I have posted. Rex will be turning 5 in January! He has been a great dog and always full of energy. He earned his Champions title in the show ring last year

Now for the health issue. Rex is an intact male. Recently about 1-2 months ago he had a bout of blood in urine. His urine was dark in the morning and his second pee looked like almost entirely blood. Red in colour. He didnt show any signs of discomfort and was acting his usual self. His pee later in the evening was perfectly fine and since being put on antibiotics (cephalexin i think) he had no issues. He wasn't straining and had a strong stream. He had some side effects from the antibiotcs but was fine after he was done. No issues with blood again until a few days ago.

Again he was taken to the vet and put on antibiotics. This time a 12 day course of Baytril. (he is currently on day 4 of meds) Vet checked his prostate to see if it was enlarged but said it might be slightly enlarged but nothing too concerning. At this point we still dont know if its crystals or a prostate issue.

He shows no sign of pain (that he expresses). has no trouble holding his pee overnight and throughout the day so we ruled out UTI. The vet also checked for pH levels of urine and it was perfectly normal. A second test of crystals was also done and came back negative. Vet said its possible he can still have crystals but it just doenst come back from the urine analysis.

This is his second bout of blood in urine and after being on Baytril for 2 days the blood is gone. Usually when it happens, there is 2-3 days of blood and he is good. But he also is on antibiotics at the same time.

At this point, we dont know whats causing the blood. The next step after this course of antibiotics is to either do an xray or ultrasound.

My guess is prostate but dont know for sure. Anyone have similar stories to this? If it comes down to it, we will neuter him if it is in fact a prostate problem. But just want to confirm this first.

Any advice/tips or stories similar to this would be very helpful.

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Sorry your boy is having problems and I hope you get some answers. I would insist on an ultrasound.
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I'm sorry to hear about your boy. I hope you can get some answers. I would want a full blood test done with some emphasis put on the kidneys and also the liver. Best of luck I hope you get your answers.
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My first had prostate problems with symptoms like you describe, but he was about 10. We treated him for an infection during the first bout he had. When he started up again, he had surgery. No problems after that.

I hope you track down the cause soon; it is so hard to not know what is wrong with our pups.
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Hi RT.
Sorry about the troubles that your boy is having.

Have you considered consulting's a veterinary urologist. Here is a website explaining their org. ASVNU, It will allow you to find the urological facility nearest to you:

https://www.asvnu.org/facilities/

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For an intact male having repeated bouts of blood in the urine most general practitioners would assume it was prostate related in a 5 year old male.

I'm agree with John that I'd want a specialist to check the problem out. I had one male who had ongoing problems with hematuria (blood in the urine not related to crystal formation) and it took more extensive diagnositics to finally determine that it was caused by an abnormally thin walled bladder structure. The solution for him came out of human medicine-treatment for hematuria in men with thin bladder linings--from four on his diet was exclusively a prescription diet for bladder/urinary tract health and glucosamine (no chondroitin) after the change of diet and the addition or glucosamine he had one more episode of hematuria and then never had another problem for the rest of his over 10 years.

But that was only one of the males--two of my intact males were neutered as older dogs (7 and 9) because of prostate issues.

If you can't find a urologist specialist within reasonable distance the other specialists who can also do diagnosics well are the reproduction specialists.

Good luck--I know it's scary to see your dog peeing what looks like pure blood but it doesn't take all that much blood mixed with urine to make it look that way.
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A bit of an update. So after his last treatment on Baytril he was good until now. I didnt see blood in his urine but did see a drop inside the house that looked like a drop of urine mixed with redish/brown. So some evidence of blood.

Will be going to the vet and likely doing an xray or ultrasound as it pretty much sounds like chronic Prostititis. Will keep you all posted.

Thanks for the advice/tips/well wishes.
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Thank you for the update.

I am happy that Rex is doing well.

Best to you and you your boy.

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Another update: Yesterday evening his urine had much more blood. This morning was a little better. usually the stream starts goods and the blood comes at the tail end.

He's got an appt on Monday morning to have Ultrasound/X-Ray. Whatever they deem is needed. Apart from visually seeing blood in his urine, he is acting 100% normal. eating fine, good energy levels, peeing/pooping at his normal frequency. he has no trouble holding his pee for a few hours. his frequency has all remained unchanged. had we not seen the blood, we wouldnt know there are any issues.


At this point my guess is prostate and that he'll likely need to be neutered to have this fixed *hopefully*



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I do hope *all* it is is prostate--really, I'd wish the problem was totally gone, but given the possibilities at this point, prostate is probably the easiest to fix.

Whatever is going on, I hope you guys can figure out what it is and get it cured soon. It's hard to have sick babies. I'll be thinking of you guys.
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Another update: He had an abdominal ultrasound done this morning and all major organs look good (kidney, liver, bladder, testicles, urethra). They found 2 small cysts in his prostate and said it can be caused by increased hormones/testosterone levels. They are diagnosing this has BPH and neutering him should fix the issue.

So overall happy to report this is something that can be *cross fingers* fixed after he is neutered.
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Hey RT...Thanks for the update.

Hope castration is the fix. Sounds like a good bet.

This is JMO based on previous neutering of mature male: I would keep a close eye on Rex's weight for a few months after surgery. Some dogs have a tendency to rapidly put on weight

Of course, many dogs don't....

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Ditto the weight gain thing. My 10 year old guy with the prostate trouble had always been a free-fed dog with no weight problems. We worked irregular hours and even though he got lots of attention, exercise, training, etc. we couldn't always be there regularly for meal times. After he was neutered, we had to start feeding him like normal folks do (thankfully our work schedule had changed) with a certain measured amount per day. That kept his weight under control with no problem, but it could easily have gotten out-of-hand if we hadn't been watching.
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Thanks for the tip. Will def keep an eye on that.

Rex in the past has not been a big eater. He is extremely picky and every meal is a chore. We have to add crumbled liver bites to his meal to get him to eat.

Who knows if that will change after he is fixed. hes about 82-84lbs now and has always been on the slimmer/lean side.
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I neutered my GCH boy when he was 7 - after 4 prostate infections over 2 years time. He did gain some weight, but I just adjusted his food and he has stayed nice and lean since then. I don't know if neutering will help your boy become a better eater - My Harvard was always a good eater except for when I had a bitch in standing heat in the house. At age 11, he still eats meals like he hasn't eaten in weeks - haha.
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I did not read all the posts, so my apologies if this has already been mentioned. We have seen this a number of times in our boys, and according to my repro vets it is quite common in intact male dogs age 5 & up. This is NOT a UTI, but more likely Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia. Treatment is 10mg of Finasteride (Propecia) once daily.

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I did not read all the posts, so my apologies if this has already been mentioned. We have seen this a number of times in our boys, and according to my repro vets it is quite common in intact male dogs age 5 & up. This is NOT a UTI, but more likely Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia. Treatment is 10mg of Finasteride (Propecia) once daily.

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Not to disagree with you, but why would someone keep a male with re-occuring prostate infections intact when a simple neuter solves the problem? Just because the dog is a champion, does not mean it needs to be bred and you can always collect them for that. Even if you use the drug you are talking about, it has to be discontinued at least 10 days before breeding.
I've been told that prostate infections are very painful - I just didn't think it was worth keeping my boy intact on the off chance someone wanted to breed a really nice bitch to him. I've got frozen for my own use down the road, and my boy has no pain.
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At the risk of jumping in between two folks whose opinions I greatly respect: I personally would be rediscent to subject a middle aged dog to castration, given anesthesia and recovery, if there was a proven track record of prescription medication mitigation. At least at first.

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At the risk of jumping in between two folks whose opinions I greatly respect: I personally would be rediscent to subject a middle aged dog to castration, given anesthesia and recovery, if there was a proven track record of prescription medication mitigation. At least at first.

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I'm not being argumentative here - but my opinion (and the opinion of most breeders I know) is that if they are having prostate problems in middle age then it is better to go ahead and neuter - even if medication successfully gets rid of it (for awhile). I've known too many people who let it go till the dog is older and suddenly they really have a problem with the prostate and should be neutered.... but are old and maybe have DCM by then - So anesthesia would really be problematic at that point.
A 5-7 year old healthy Doberman should be able to handle anesthesia with no problem. My Harvard did fine at 7. He is seemingly very healthy at age 11, but I'd hate to be having to make a decision about a neuter at this age when I could have done it much younger. I would have never neutered my Harvard if he had not started getting prostate infections, but once he did, it was a foregone conclusion that he was going to get snipped sooner rather than later. I've never regretted the decision and know that I did the best thing for HIM health wise. I've known of popular stud dogs that were kept intact because they were being bred left and right.... but suffering with prostate problems. I would not care if my dog was Gods gift to Dobermans, if they started getting prostate infections, I would neuter them. JMHO

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