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Calamity, you don't have to answer now, but you and Huck have been so much in my thoughts and concern. Wondering if he made it home yesterday.
I remember last year at this very same time, bringing 'Duggan' home after total paralysis and surgery. Just a lost, lost feeling of what to do next and how to
do it and the fear of doing it wrong. Take a deep breath and look at one day at a time. Recovery will happen and is happening even when you can't see it
all the time. You will look back one day and wonder just how you got through it. Stay strong.

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Huck did make it home on Sunday. His left forepaw started swelling considerable early Monday morning.



They feel it’s from the arterial line he had. So all our time has been one to one care. We have to massage and warm compress his left forepaw multiple times a day. We also have to ice his incision and penis multiple times a day. His draining has stopped but he’s so very bruised.

It won’t let me load up those pictures right now. I’ll try again later.

He’s not been eating much and has yet to poop since Saturday. We’ve tried everything short of an enema. He’s ambulating has increased tremendously. He’s able to jump up and down from my bed. Which he had commandeered. He’s leery of anyone laying in the bed with him, which I would be too. So he gets bed and I sleep in recliner beside him. Which is much more comfortable on the floor with him.
He wants to be outside and explore it but it is cold with snow and ice on the ground so we fear frostbite just because his feet are compromised right now. I just wish he’d poop, even if inside the house.
He’s pretty f*cking amazing!!










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Oh wow. That incision is something else.
The swollen paw is totally normal. I had forgotten about it until you just mentioned it.
It wil recede. Can't quite remember exactly why the vet said that was normal after surgery.
Also, the meds and anesthesia has slowed his system down, gut and need to eliminate.
Give him a little time. No need to rush that so soon after a major surgery.
This is just great news having him home with you.

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I remember when Capri was sick for so long after her blockage surgeries...she couldn't/shouldn't jump up on the bed but wanted to be near me, so I ended up buying (from Walmart?) a relatively cheap memory foam mattress topper that was something like 4 inches thick. It was comfortable for me sleeping on the floor next to her bed; I think I slept on it for about 6 months.

We had beds and mattresses all over the floor at times...during the day everybody took turns.


Once I didn't need it for that purpose it eventually became a big comfortable dog bed for Kip; he couldn't make it up to the top of our bed because of his bad back but this fit right up against the bedside within easy reach (I actually slid part of it under the bed so it was still big, but didn't take up quite as much floor space) It didn't cost that much more than a midscale dog bed, but it was big enough for a person to use in a pinch if more beds were needed or during nursing duties.

Something like that might work for you folks?? Might be better than sleeping in a recliner, at any rate.

I'm sure Huck's getting all kinds of kisses and hugs from you guys, but try to squeeze in a few more from me. I'll be thinking of you...

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Hi Calamity.

Temporary anorexia and lack of fecal deification is pretty common after major surgery.

"When should my dog have the first bowel movement after surgery?
Many dogs will not have a bowel movement for the first 4 to 5 days after surgery.

Reasons that a dog will not have regular bowel movements after surgery include:
The dog has been fasted prior to surgery.
Dogs do not eat well during the hospital stay.
They frequently do not eat well when the go home.
They are fed highly digestible food that produces little stool.
Pain medication that contain narcotics (such as tylenol with codeine, tylenol 3, tylenol 4, morphine) can be constipating.

If a pet does not have a bowel movement on the 5th day of being home a stool softener such as metamucil can be fed.

Dose of metamucil 1 tsp per 25 Kg (50 pounds) mixed in with each meal (canned dog food)."

So.. Every dog that I have ever had that required surgery needed several days to return to a regular eating and eliminating routine.

Oddly enough, the one exception was a total intestinal blockage and bowel resection with our senior. Go figure.

Best to you and Huckleberry.

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??? Some people sure do have odd gods.

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??? Some people sure do have odd gods.

Sorry, John, couldn't let that one pass. I'm still sniggering at the image.
LOL Mel!

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Also... Autocorrect is certainly not my friend. Ah me... If my mother was still around and reading my posts on various sites, it would have ME out behind the wood shed.

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Glad to hear that Huck is home with you.
Yep the poop will come for sure. How is his hydration.......fluid intake good?

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So glad he's home. Sending lots of love and good thoughts to you, Huck!
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I remember now the vet called it 'Fat paw' and was really nothing to worry about. But, you still will.
Lol, on the autospell, John. We need those laughs.
Mel, Can I come to your house for a sleep over? Looks like so much fun at your house and can I bring 3 more Dobes?

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Hugs and kisses to Huck. I hope he feels better soon!

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Still thinking of Huck.
Hoping its time to celebrate a long awaited poop......
Power to the Huck’ster .....poke ...oh what the heck.....big kiss!

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Poop Huck, Poop!
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...Temporary anorexia and lack of fecal deification is pretty common after major surgery.

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??? Some people sure do have odd gods.

Sorry, John, couldn't let that one pass. I'm still sniggering at the image.

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Poop Huck, Poop!

I agree Huck, Poop!

If you don't, we might be forced to invoke the spirit of 4x4's "Fecal Deification"
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Lol, sd



Edited to add: This dang computer just turned my capitals (except the one at the beginning) into lower case???

So I'll try this

L O L, S D

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Edited to add: This dang computer just turned my capitals (except the one at the beginning) into lower case???

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I see autocorrect is not your friend either.... HaHa!

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Huck and cancer

One week post op -

We’ve had one trip to ER, he would scream, I mean SCREAM in pain. Literally woke me out of sleep two closed doors away when he was with my partner and later that night it awakened her three doors away and let just assure you, that ain’t easy. She found me cradling him sobbing. The first two times he wasn’t moving, the pain wasn’t provoked. We called vet ER and they called in a medicine at two AM, one normally given for Parkinson’s.

I had decided that when we got him up in the AM that morning, that if he screamed again he was going straight to car to ER, if that was too painful we were calling in his vet to have him PTS.

That AM was more screaming, this time when he moved to get up. But once up and a bit of a massage and getting car warmed up, we got him in the car without further screaming episodes.

We had them take him immediately back (so I couldn’t, hopefully, hear him scream again. That scream will haunt me a lifetime). We demanded that he be given a pain shot ASAP then come see us and we’ll update more than when we called on the way in. Which they did. After some haggling (NO we know best not you second year ER resident), they put him on Gabapentin for nerve pain, fentanyl patch for bid ass surgery pain, and they suggested to restart his trazadone for anxiety (his only, unfortunately).

They wanted to wait and continue the codeine for pain and if not better in 24 hours to come back to do the patch procedure which consist of - hydromorphine shot (which he had just received) because it takes the patch 12 hours to work one placed, and shave area to place patch (which he has lots of).

So since he’s been on the codeine for over a month and has possibly built up a tolerance, and since he just got a shot of hydromorphine and since he has lots of shaven real estate let’s and since getting him in a car to there when in pain isn’t easy, and well even more painful, then let’s friggin DO IT NOW (I kinda went all “Terms of Endearment” on them...again).

Also, they inferred that this never happens so he must be weak or pain intolerant. Um no, even when his foot was dangling from the fracture he never yelped, cried or whined.

Two days later, still no appetite, seemed depressed. Has to be forced to get up. But hasn’t screamed in pain with as much intensity or as often. But he did poop, and poop and pooped.

Yesterday morning once we got him up and was holding him, because he fell the last time he got up trying to stretch, I then felt and saw the wave of tensed cramping go from his good hip to his amputated side and then he screamed - not as loud but we were able to massage it out. I guess it’s like a Charlie horse and sets off the severed nerve for a second.

That afternoon, his surgeon called and as I was explaining things to her and including that the amputation was to decrease pain and increase quality, he looked over at me like this -



He’s so drugged. We both agree to stop everything except the gabapentin and metacam for pain. That’s made a huge difference. He even meet me at the door with a shoe.

After sutures our in a week and confirming his incision is healed enough, he can go swimming. Of course he’ll need a life jacket now and I found a heated indoor pool about 90 mins away that sells private time. He starts chemo on the 8th, they say it’s symptom free (let’s hope) ohh and his pathology shows osteosarcoma only.

We got his new Ruffwear harness in today but his “Swat” vest did well!











Ohh and Moonshine tried blaming this on Huckleberry, said he got bored and needed attention.



Tomorrow we are starting him on training to go find his leg (he does that with shoes, toys, leashes, collars). Best two things I can find is this duck which has a leg and is “fowl” and this stick looking chew from Ruffwear. So far the duck has been his favorite. But in past pre-three limbs, he’d chew the duck up. So if that happens then we know his normal. The stick will at least float so he can”get his leg” when swimming.


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Poor Huck...such a journey. He's so tough, and so are you.
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Calamity, you are fierce and a great Dober Mom. Reading your post set me off in tears and I had difficulty even reading. It is amazing the inner strength you find that you were unaware you had.
It can only get better. With Duggan they gave him a muscle relaxant for those cramps. I think called methocarbinal. That spelling may be wrong, but sounds like. Hugs to you and your boy.
Thank you for keeping us updated. I check this thread everyday to see how Huck is doing.
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So glad to see things are taking a turn for the better. Yes we have all been checking in on this thread. Whew.....what a time of it...but one of those last PICs I can see in his eyes he coming out of it and connecting with you. That’s so great ... so now things are mending and looks like he is learning to balance real good. With Brutus it was about 2 weeks before he would lay in the opposite direction while on the floor. Meaning laying or putting pressure on the incision site. Also so glad to hear he pooped. That always makes them feel like a million bucks!
Take care and give Huck a kiss for me! Will check in again real soon.

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Oh I so much hope things are going smoothly ......

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Calamity - you have been much in my thoughts. I hope everything is ok. I can imagine it seems daunting at times, plus the hurt of seeing Huck go through this.
Stay strong, stay strong - we are all behind you.
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