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Dobie Farts

Gross topic, I know...but farts happen right?

But my boy's farts lately ... omg yall. I mean...OMG. They're toxic! Is it like...an adolescent thing? He's a week shy of 8 months and he's been eating the same food (Taste of the Wild, High Prairie puppy formula) since he was weaned. The only difference is now, since he had teeth pulled, we have to make his food soft until his follow up appointment so we let it soak in water until the kibble's puffy and soft. I wouldn't think that would make much of a difference, but could it? I mean, his flatulence could clear a room.

Also, his paws are smelly. He's like a teenage boy fresh out of football practice! I read that dogs sweat through their pawpads, so I'm guessing that his age, the fact that he's intact (so hormones?), and his active lifestyle is causing his paws to be musty. I'm imagining it to be kind of like a preteen kid who is at the stage that personal hygiene is an issue. I have doggy wipes that I'm going to try to combat musty paws with, but does anyone have any advice about his farting? Is that something normal that dogs go through as they age and it tapers off, or is it something that we're just going to have to get used to? We've already invested in some extra wall plug ins, just in case! Lol

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I highly recommend a stop at your local Army Surplus Store and pick a couple of Gas Masks !

Wait till he do's that in a store ! Boy that makes the check out line short !
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After comparing doberman Body Odor (BO) and Fart stinkies, since 1977 - I have come to a few diet, general pet health & longevity conclusions...

1977 Tanya on crap kibble diet / the entire pet food industry, pretty much the same.
- kibble in the old days / a blend of Toxic by-product meat soup pig-slop, corn & fillers
Worst Dog Food: 14 Unhealthy & Toxic Ingredients to Avoid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYVJ6Pdojrc

2000 Amy was on Holistic kibble & organic treats (all 4-5 star), since puppy.
- zero BO, zero bad breath, zero dandruff, farts limited frequency
- Amy also lived 23% longer, than our first puppy (Tanya)

2012 Kelly on 5 star kibble & treats + cooked homemade (fish/veggie/fruit/pasta stew).
- see post #22, on her diet changes: https://www.dobermantalk.com/food-fe...ch-copper.html
(Handmade kibble: ingredients are approved for human consumption, meaning that they are of the same grade and quality as the food you buy at the grocery store. There are no leftovers in our food—all our meat is carefully selected and sourced from HACCP-certified factories)
- we finally have her soft stool issue solved (diet change) to regulate her Liver properly
- with soft stools off/on, fart gas was always a problem...now under control
- zero BO, zero bad breath, only a few dandruff flakes
PS - grain free kibble, seemed to cause her to have more soft stools.

^^ Premium diet is the key common denominator, in our experience.
- so much hinges on, "we are what we eat / dogs included"
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They will all have some gas, but a lot of it, and very smelly, is not normal. If it were me I'd try switching foods, but mainly because I've never had good luck with TOTW. Your dog's coat and feet should not be stinky. Honestly a doberman doesn't really smell like much at all in my experience- even if only bathed a few times per year.
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Taste of the wild is a decent quality food, but I can't remember if it is grain free or not. Sully has big old man farts, they're so loud! But for the most part if he hasn't had grains, they don't stink too bad. Give him a few treats with a bunch of processed crap in them and boy can he clear a room. My puppers has some pretty bad farts too, I'll probably move her to grain free soon too. I'd wait until your done wetting his food and see if it resolves, take away any new treats you've introduced too. If it doesn't go away, try another food. My food of choice is Fromm, family owned and independently tested.
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We all joke abut Frito feet (and horrendous dobe farts), but if the smell is really bad and he's picking at his feet, it could be a sign of a yeast infection.

https://healthypets.mercola.com/site...melly-dog.aspx

Of course, the dog might not be the only one whose feet smell
"New Japanese robot dog sniffs out smelly feet"
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Gamer -

Radar went through a stage of being really smelly too - although if I recall, it was closer to the time he was going through teething. I was feeding Nutrisource Large Breed Puppy (Chicken/Rice formula), and his farts could peel paint. I also found myself bathing him WAY too often, because his BO would get to be unbearable after just a few weeks (super sensitive pregnancy nose didn't help either..) His coat looked fine, and his stools were normal, but he STANK.

What I did was switch him to a different formula of Nutrisource, because I really like that it is made locally to me and it is at the right price point and quality. Now I feed him ALS Grain Free Large Breed Lamb and Pea formula. So far it has been good - only the occasional fart (usually right in my face as he is getting off the couch ), but they don't smell nearly as bad. I've noticed that his gas gets worse if we give him more treats than usual. I stopped buying pet-store treats (except jerky, he loves jerky), and now just give him bits and pieces of whatever it is that I'm eating (as long as it's dog safe). That seems to help as well.

If you really like TOTW, and his coat and stool is fine, maybe just try switching to a different formula/protein source and see how he does. If that doesn't work, you may want to look into a different brand. I don't have experience with stinky feet, but when you go to the vet for his follow-up, you should probably have him checked for signs of a yeast infection, just in case.

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Yes, Taste of the Wild is a grain free food. I like it because his coat is soooo pretty! I'm giving credit to the food he eats, but it may be other factors .. like me petting him all the time which might evenly distribute oils across his coat? lol
I'm not opposed to changing his food though, if it's better for him! I JUST bought another 30lb bag yesterday, but like someone said here I'm going to wait a bit to see if dousing his food with water is the culprit...and if not, possibly try the a adult formula (after researching when a pup can switch over to adult food..)
I took a whiff of his paws this morning (cue a .. wtf are you doing, mom? look from Zeus) and they DO smell like Fritos! That's probably why I can't stand idk .. I hate Fritos. They're not terrible, but I really notice the smell after he's been running around. I didn't know about yeast infections on dog paws! Would they look abnormal? He's not picking at his feet or anything, and they look like they always do. He licks his paws every so often, but he's done that since he was little, and it isn't all the time.

Thank you everyone for your helpful words of advice, as usual!
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If he did not stink before and does now......look for what has changed ....his kibble is the same just adding water.......

anything else that might be different..??

Gamer you made my day on this one!!!......Can never have enough fart experts in the house.......

With Hoss we get 1 good fart per day........after his dinner time.......other than that he smells like a daisy........

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Just thinking here gamer , you need to teach him the pull my paw trick - then blewie Your friends would be impressed !
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Frito feet isn't really a problem; it's due to a bacteria that grow between their toes . They may even stink more if doggie has been running around; dogs sweat through their feet.
Limping or a lot of licking could show something bad is going on.
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If you are not feeding treats of unknown quality and the dog has unending farts that are incredibly stinky it's the one time I'll seriously consider a change of food. All dog foods have slightly different ingredients and a sensitivity to even one minor one can create toxic gas.

I feed a kibble that isn't highly recommended (and is often described as poison) but over the years most of my dogs have done very well on it--bright eyes, glossy coat, endless energy, small solid stool and very little gas. I don't care how many stars a kibble has if it doesn't meet those basic qualities it's not the right food for that dog.

And the dog has to like it and eat it as if they do like it.

Periodically I try a new food or new type of food to see if it produces better results than my old standby. So far I haven't food one that does.

About grain free foods---I did try two different highly recommended grain free types a while back. No one (three Dobes at that time) looked better or seemed to feel better on the grain free but one of them definitely wasn't processing it well and he had very soft stools on both varieties of grain free. One of the other boys clearly didn't like the food--or the way it smelled because he turned into a picky eater--eventually he'd eat his meals but he went from a 2 minute for two cups of kibble guy to an are you ever going to finish that in this century?

Many years ago I tried a highly rated food that caused my Australian Shepherd (who was an eating machine and would eat anything to turn up his nose and announce that he was moving unless I started feeding real food again.

But back to the gas problem--I tried several different kibbles (including grain free) on my most consistently gassy dog. Ultimately I found that a mixture of the same food I've been feeding for years mixed 50/50 with Costco's Kirkland Chicken and Vegetable would keep him in good weight (he was very hard to get weight on and keep weight on and trying to add more food tended to make the gas situation worse because it was just more food than he could process). AND even though he still farted (when he sat down, when he stood up, when he play bowed at one of the other dogs) it mostly didn't stink. So the farts were announced (he sounded like a small two cycle motor) but they didn't drive us out of the house.

And if you are feeding canned food--even in very small quantities--a whole lot of dogs don't seem to be able to handle canned food--even the very best stuff--if it doesn't give them gas it may give them soft stools.

Good luck...with the gas situation--it's well known the Dobes are true gas bags...
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Are you sure its not your SO ...maybe just blaming it on the dog???

Today I received my DT newsletter ....your thread was right there !!!! Still LMAO over this one...so so sorry gammer ....just ...nothing funnier than a fart!!!

Will be think'in of you and your family daily .......
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Does dog food cause bad breath as well? @Beaumont67 mentioned lack of stinky breath in their post depending on the food that the dogs ate. Zeus's breath has been pretty bad. I was faulting it to his tooth because it looked like there was gunk in there that I couldn't get out (Zeus is/was a poop eater..ugh), but the tooth is gone and his breath is still stinky. We monitor him when we take him to go potty in the backyard to make sure he doesn't turn around and go sniffing at his poop to taste. He was bad at that about two months ago, but then he stopped. And I haven't seen him chow down on pop in a while, but his breath makes it seem like otherwise. I've inspected his mouth, and it doesn't look like there's any remnants of anything lodged in his teeth, and the dentist said I can't continue to brush his teeth yet because the stitches in his mouth may be disrupted.

His stinky breath is yet another thing I'm going to have a talk to the dental vet about. Poor Zeus! He's just a stinky dog at the moment, but I meant to mention that his farting is bad only after he eats..so it probably is time for a gradual change of food. Going to stick with his current food til a vet visit clears him for solid (not soggy) food again.
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Check with your vet ...but there are different types of tea that are good for dogs bad breath as well as their immune system....poor pup......just a bad month all together.... di

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Are you sure its not your SO ...maybe just blaming it on the dog???

Today I received my DT newsletter ....your thread was right there !!!! Still LMAO over this one...so so sorry gammer ....just ...nothing funnier than a fart!!!

Will be think'in of you and your family daily .......

Di - after this post - Your officially in the ECI and Aunt B . 's Your not right club ! Congrats !

I'm also LMAO

BTW News letter ?? I have never got a news letter !
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yeah seriously I get a news letter that comes into my email package........next time I get one I will save it for your review.....it basically just shows the active topics...and yes right there big a bold was gamer's thread title...
DOBIE FARTS.......LMAO.......still.....see ya on the chicken wire!!! over and out....LOCO!!
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Does dog food cause bad breath as well? @Beaumont67 mentioned lack of stinky breath in their post depending on the food that the dogs ate. Zeus's breath has been pretty bad. I was faulting it to his tooth because it looked like there was gunk in there that I couldn't get out (Zeus is/was a poop eater..ugh), but the tooth is gone and his breath is still stinky. We monitor him when we take him to go potty in the backyard to make sure he doesn't turn around and go sniffing at his poop to taste. He was bad at that about two months ago, but then he stopped. And I haven't seen him chow down on pop in a while, but his breath makes it seem like otherwise. I've inspected his mouth, and it doesn't look like there's any remnants of anything lodged in his teeth, and the dentist said I can't continue to brush his teeth yet because the stitches in his mouth may be disrupted.

His stinky breath is yet another thing I'm going to have a talk to the dental vet about. Poor Zeus! He's just a stinky dog at the moment, but I meant to mention that his farting is bad only after he eats..so it probably is time for a gradual change of food. Going to stick with his current food til a vet visit clears him for solid (not soggy) food again.
Blood in the mouth will definitely make a dogs breath pretty stinky. Until those suture are out (the ones from his dental surgery) I would wait to think about food changes.

I guess some food can make a dogs breath stinky but if it's only food that doesn't last long. I feed fish based formula and for a short while right after I feed the dogs if they breath directly in my face their breath will smell somewhat fishy.

But my dogs rarely smell like much of anything other than warm dog. And except when they are showing in conformation they don't get bathed much. When they are playing show dog they get bathed immediately before a show or show circuit but after that they might get bathed once or twice a year.
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Is it bad to say that I seriously cannot remember the last time Coco had a bath.

She never smells. One of my favourite things to do when she nuzzles me is to put my nose right in her fur and inhale deeply because she has never smelled like anything during her 9 years.

I feed Coco raw because she did horribly on kibble her 1st year of life. She does once in awhile fart but it's not a regular occurrence. I do limit her consumption of lamb and duck because those proteins do induce very smelly farts and always have.

I think you should look at your food source and have a check up at the vet because what you describe is not what I have experienced with Coco.



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I once sold pet food part time, for over a decade...only Holistic-human grade & organic treats.

Former Amy was my wing-man partner (and Therapy dog) and I would let potential customers smell her breath.
(a solid sales tactic)
- this Dad would hold her mouth open, for others to take a sniff
- people use to say: "I don't get it, what am I suppose to smell"?
- Beau would say: "nothing, no stink of heads & beaks & ground up chicken bums"
- and often I'd have a new customer

Once a new customer had a Boxer with bad facial mange. My supplied food, took 85% of the mange away, but 15% still bothered me. So I said, "show me your treats"? / it was the bad Milk Bone type (with dead stock meat & dyes)...so changing all sources of food, fixed the dogs health.

I'm with dobebug - grain free contributed to our last pups soft stools / might me marketing hype...
- so what if zero grains, only for the formula to be full of cheap potato-starch fillers (for example) ?

And Coco Loco feeds RAW - from what I heard, it really is a most healthy choice / once past the learning curve.

PS - I've heard good things about the Kirkland premium kibble (for those on a budget) ...never used it though.
- while we buy Costco 100% Liver treats (dried) & USA made
- cheap kibbles often have corn sugars & salt added, to make it taste better / dogs can get use to it, like our caffeine addiction to coffee ...taste just isn't always a good sign of goodness or ingredient quality
- also many cheap kibbles contain "Beet Pulp" / a stool stabilizer, that is not good for dogs intestine health

And I'm sure - taking actions to strengthen a pets immune system is also key to a clean smell of health.
- so don't over vaccinate either

------------Kelly & (Amy - RIP @ 11.7 y/o)

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Gamer - I think I have come up with a good test - to see what may - may not be causing the gas problem -

Have you SO start eating only what you fed your dog ! Say 2 cup's in the morning - 2 in the evening - NO other foods for him ! Then see if he can clear out the check out line ! If he don't - then it's something else other than the dog food !


Disclaimer : 5 years ago - we had the same problem with Big , Big girl - so I only ate her food ! Around day 4 - I stopped into Wal-Mart to pick up a few things - going back to the truck - I stopped to pee on a car tire and some dumba-- hit me ! Put me in the hospital for 5 days !

Tell SO to be careful !
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Don't know about ya'all but I'm getting worried about Gamer...no word for 5 days.
Gamer you OK.....just check'in in to make sure nothing life threatening is happening in "Gasville"
Sorry but this is just the best thread ever......I have been monitoring Hoss's gasline this week ........once a day for us......when he beds down for the night.......he delivers us 1 doozy 7:30 to 8PM primetime TV time.........of course.
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Once a day for us......when he beds down for the night.......he delivers us 1 doozy 7:30 to 8PM primetime TV time.........of course.


OK Di - I think I can also help you too ! When Hoss cracks one - pull the covers over his head - aka - the Dutch Oven ! lmao He'll come out from under them in 2 shakes of a puppies tail !

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