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Melatonin Curious!

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Has anyone out there used melatonin with their dobies? I was reading that it might be beneficial with respect to separation anxiety, certain OCD tendencies, noise anxieties, and believe it or not, even alopecia. Just wondering if anybody has had some experience with this.

It is not an issue in my household. Still, I found it fascinating, that a simple, common OTC supplement could possibly alleviate so many of the issues we can have with our dogs.
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Hadn't heard any of that. Have to ask my dog's dermatology vet next time we see her--she seems to be up on her meds and treatments, even alternative ones.

Kip has some anxiety/OCD issues and is phobic about certain kinds of noises (metallic clangings). It would be nice if there were a good, yet gentle, treatment OTC. Though I'm always aware that herbal meds are pharmaceuticals too, in a sense, just not necessarily tested the way other drugs are.

A pet peeve of mine, the "if it's natural, it's better" mindset. There are lots of naturally poisonous plants out there. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it is automatically kinder to the body than manmade drugs.
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Willy has always had a problem with thunder and storms. I have tried everything and
nothing seemed to help. A couple of weeks ago I tried Composure Pro by Vetriscience.
This stuff really works. All natural. You get from your vet.
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I have heard that melatonin can help with CDA.


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I have tried melatonin for storm anxiety with one of my dogs but haven't seen any drastic improvement. That said, timing is a big issue with things like that (unless you give it daily I suppose). Right now we're trying Zylkene daily for the summer thunderstorm months.

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I haven't tried it with my doberpup yet, but my other two dogs both get a dose of melatonin in their evening meal. My doxie/aussie mix has bilateral alopecia and it was recommended for us to try adding it to his diet in January. Midway through May, and a bunch of his hair has come back in otherwise notoriously patchy areas. His tail has started to fill out too. Out of curiosity, I started adding it to my miniature schnauzer mix's evening meal and she started sprouting more brown hairs. She hasn't had any shade of brown in her since before she was groomed for the first time at 4mo's old (she's 3).
I haven't had a use for it for doberpup yet, but I totally believe adding it to a better balanced diet really improves skin and fur.
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We tried melatonin with Simon for storms, but his anxiety was pretty bad and it wasn't enough. I know many, many people with anxious dogs because of my experience in that "field", and my general experience is that melatonin can be helpful for dogs with very mild anxieties, but for dogs with any level beyond mild, they pretty often need intervention with prescription drug therapy combined with behavioral modification training. People should really work with professionals trained in the field; seeking out a veterinary behaviorist who can recommend a great trainer and who is able to prescribe (and tweak/combine as necessary) appropriate prescription meds is really the best bet. It makes me really sad to see dogs who are VERY anxious and could really benefit from medical intervention not receive it.


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I have heard that melatonin can help with CDA.
One of our dogs was on Predisone his entire life. At first intensive, then a very low dosage. First four years, no side effects, although he always had fine hair. Later he started to suffer quite a bit of hair loss. No skin issues. The only issue was cosmetic, which generally I could not care less about. We actually tried Melatonin and saw no improvement in 3-4 months. But then his issue was definitely not true genetic CDA. We took him off the Pred, and switched him to a newer different steroid. His hair started to thicken up within two weeks. It is pretty much a normal coat today.

Thats why I was asking about all this talk with regard to Melatonin. Seems to good to be true. But with all these people putting their dogs on drugs like Prozac.... I guess any milder drug/supplement might be with looking into.

BTW I have been taking 10 mg of Melatonin as a sleep aid for 3 years with no negative effects.

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Sometimes prozac is what's necessary. Milder means, well, milder. If the problem is too severe for a mild OTC drug to handle, then the dog is being denied a medical need because its human was too squick to handle their internal bias against any sort of mental malady or illness.

Most pet owners do not dose their dogs on serious anti anxiety medications lightly.

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Sometimes prozac is what's necessary. Milder means, well, milder. If the problem is too severe for a mild OTC drug to handle, then the dog is being denied a medical need because its human was too squick to handle their internal bias against any sort of mental malady or illness.

Most pet owners do not dose their dogs on serious anti anxiety medications lightly.
We have no disagreement here. That's why I threw the question out with regard to the effectiveness of Meletonin in certain canine mental and physical issues.

I am confident that: "Most pet owners do not dose their dogs on serious anti anxiety medications lightly." Yet, I am sure that you realize that over the past few years it has become increasingly more common to use anti-anxiety drugs on dogs. It is quite controversial.

To be clear.... I have no problem with owners using properly prescribed pharmaceuticals to mitigate any problem, whether physical or mental.
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