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just wondering what your grooming rituals are....
my vet told me that trimming whiskers and shaving insides of ear are common.
ive been using small nail clippers to trim whiskers, but havent shaved her ears.
i think lexi is scared of the noise...
also, does anyone trim the bottom of their underside?
any tips would be appreciated~
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I will be the first to admit that I am very new to dobermans, but to this point I have only clipped her nails and occasionally brushed her coat with a rubber brush.
What is the benefit to trimming whiskers?
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Whiskers are usually trimmed for conformation showing, because it makes a cleaner outline. Basically, for shows you trim off any excess hair or whiskers that "stick out" from the clean outline of the dog. So that would be the whiskers, the hair inside the ears, the hair on the bottom of the "skirt", and hairs that stick out anywhere. This isn't required for showing, but it's what most people do.

Other than that, there isn't any benefit to doing it unless you really like to look at your dog everyday with that "clean outline" look. Personally I don't usually notice my dogs' whiskers in day to day living, and so I don't don't trim anything but the toenails unless the dog is getting ready for a show.
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What is the benefit to trimming whiskers?
It gives them a "cleaner" look.

Part of the show grooming that's done with dobermans is trimming whiskers, the inside of and along the edge of the ear, under the tail, their belly and along the "skirt" on their loins, their neck. You can also lightly run the clippers over their entire underline and the back of their hind legs..basically you're just trying to take off any stray hairs that stick out from the overall outline. If your dog has good pasterns, you can show that off by trimming the back of them.

But I don't do any of this when my dogs aren't being shown. Sometimes a dog's just gotta be a dog!



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i see...lexi is just a pet, not show dog, but i must admit she looks great after a few trims! i do it maybe once every 2wks...im sort of a neat freak.....i apologize to lexi : (

i think its also the environment of the city where everyone's dog looks so fashionable and show like~
also she's our photo production studio dog and we have many fashiony type clients so i like to keep her clean cut....those are my excuses, apologies to lexi again!

when u say clippers do u mean scissors?
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when u say clippers do u mean scissors?
No..clippers made specifically for grooming dogs. Most of them have detachable blades, and you have to be careful to use the right blade, depending on what you want to do. I generally use a #10 blade for everything but the inside of the ears...you can't do any harm with a #10, as far as taking off too much hair.

Although some people do use scissors to take the hairs off of the muzzle..I'd really caution against doing that unless you're pretty experienced and the dog is pretty calm.



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hmmm thanks for the info! im thinking i shouldnt do it myself and just get it done by sophia or grooming professionals.....lexi is usually calm around the small nail clippers but with electric shavers she gets scared.
i cant clip her nails anymore, b/c i cut quick the last time, and now im too scared to do it!
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Funny you should bring up this subject as i have just come upstairs from nail-clipping and whisker removing of both Tia and Mischa ready for showing first in the ring tomorrow(it's Mischa's first major show) apart from that it will be a spray of water and a wipe down with a wet wipe just prior to entering the showring(and maybe a little coat shine shhhh)I have a special pair of scissors for doing the whiskers,they have rounded points so you do not stab their cheeks as they jump around a lot for a trim.I'm lucky i don't have to trim ears(floppy ear brigade me)!!


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what a coincidence~
thanks for tip, i might go get a pair of rounded tips......
and Best of Luck to Tia & Mischa!!!
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ivyyoon, you can buy battery operated mini clippers to do the whiskers. They are very quiet, I use them on my Shiz tzu around her eyes and they only cost about $25.00
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while we are on the grooming subject, and tips for a getting a dog to calm down that TOTALLY flips out when you try to do nails wither it's a dremel or clippers? Molly just goes beserk. we have not been able to get more than 2 or 3 nails done in one day. She shakes from head to toe, her heart races and it take two of us to hold her steady and another one to snip or grind. If hubby tries to help, she completely freaks out.

We have tried not having Jason help. just turning on the dremel in the room and not doing nails (babysteps) and slowly getting her used to it. nothing works. At this point, I am not sure if we are helping her or damaging her more. any suggstions? Any one else with rescues have the same problem?

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ivyyoon, you can buy battery operated mini clippers to do the whiskers. They are very quiet, I use them on my Shiz tzu around her eyes and they only cost about $25.00
ill definitely look into that~ any particular brand you recommend? thanks for the tip!
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The one I have is a Wahl Stylique Narrow Blade Trimmer. It costs 14.95 at the Pet Supply House (Guelph, Ont.) you can order it online. The blade is only 1/4" wide.
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Codysmom, I use to have a GSD that hated having his nails done. But everyday I would touch his paws, rubbing them, rubbing his belly with my foot at the same time and telling him what a good boy he was. I would do this for about 10 minutes. At first he did not like it but when I started to rub his belly at the same time he really started to enjoy it! I did this for about 2 weeks, I then put the clippers on the floor next to us. I also started to touch his nails. We then progressed to one nail a day, then 2...etc. I always would give him a really good treat when we were done. I eventually got to the point where I could do all his nails in one sitting, he still did not like it but trusted me enough to let me do it. It is a long process but in the end it is worth it. There is nothing worse then fighting with your dog to do their nails. Good luck!
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I don't bathe too often except when we have a show coming up or Velma is going on a therapy dog visit. I also really don't brush much. I have a couple of hound mitts that I use on occasion, but that is about it.

I do dremel nails every week. I started them as young puppies so I'm not full of ideas for helping a dog that hates it. Velma does not like it, but she gets through it. Louise could care less. Velma's nails are a little long but they don't click on the floor for a day or two after I dremel. I HATE clicking toe nails!! Her nails got long when I broke my foot when she was still a puppy. They did not get done for months and over 3 years later, I've never been able to get them as short as I like. I even tried doing them 2x a week for awhile.....did not work. So, I started doing Louise's nails the first week she came home and keep them at a nice short length.......but not too short.

I also show trim before shows, whenever we are going somewhere, or just every once in awhile. I like that really clean look.

I have a nice cordless trimmer......I'd have to go look to see what kind. I trim inside the ears and along the cut edge. The whiskers, the skirt, under the tail and make the line of black to rust under the tail a very sharp line. Then I just look for anything that sticks out and whisk it off - LOL!

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I don't do anything but trim my dogs nails with a drummel. They don't like it. The Ridgeback really gives me a bad time. I recently took her to my friend's groom shop and put her up on the table. She fussed but I was able to do all her nails. There is something about being up on the table.... she really could not get away. It really saves my back this way. I used to lock myself in a small bathroom with her between the wall and toilet..... it was rough but we got it done.

I also treat while frequently during the entire process. If she holds her foot still for even one second. I stop and treat her.

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lol..I was going to mention about the grooming table but most people don't have one. I agree, it seems to take a bit of there confidence away.
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The only thing that I do is dremel the nails. Asher could care less what I do, so he is a breeze as long as I don't take too long.(I tend to be a perfectionist) Harmony doesn't neccessarily like it. It took her sometime to get used the transition from the clippers when I did switch. It was a slow trade with her. I would gradually turn on the dremel and get used to the noise and then let her feel the vibe of it on her foot. Slowly I would work up to trimming one nail and them two, never trimming for long periods. She would get good treats and lots of praise for doing well. It took a couple days to get to doing her whole paw. Gradually she got more comfortable and the shaking the would she do subsided.

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I use a dremel on Maggie's nails once a week and also use some mini clippers to shave the whiskers and other stray facial hair. I think a dobe looks better "clean cut", LOL. Bad thing is her whiskers are getting so thick the clippers won't cut them (made for human), so I use very small scissors.

I also brush her every couple days with a rubber brush glove. It really gets her sheen going.

Besides that, she gets a bath about once a month.
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while we are on the grooming subject, and tips for a getting a dog to calm down that TOTALLY flips out when you try to do nails wither it's a dremel or clippers? Molly just goes beserk. we have not been able to get more than 2 or 3 nails done in one day. She shakes from head to toe, her heart races and it take two of us to hold her steady and another one to snip or grind. If hubby tries to help, she completely freaks out.

We have tried not having Jason help. just turning on the dremel in the room and not doing nails (babysteps) and slowly getting her used to it. nothing works. At this point, I am not sure if we are helping her or damaging her more. any suggstions? Any one else with rescues have the same problem?

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Wow... I was bored at work and just reading through thread after thread, and responded to this without checking dates... seems I'm about 4 years behind. LOL Oops... my bad.

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hello,

just wondering what your grooming rituals are....
my vet told me that trimming whiskers and shaving insides of ear are common.
ive been using small nail clippers to trim whiskers, but havent shaved her ears.
i think lexi is scared of the noise...
also, does anyone trim the bottom of their underside?
any tips would be appreciated~
thanks!
I shave the inside of my cropped dobes ears with a #15 i also do this to my Bostons. I then trim the edge with a small pair of scissors. I Shave the whiskers off with a #15 as well. On my boys I also shave the balls and their peepees With a #10. I trim the wild pointy hair on the end of Kitana's tail with scissors, Sindel has a perfectly cropped tail with no scar and no pointy end hair.
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I know this is an old thread... but why would you shave their balls and peepers?

I don't understand trimming whiskers on dogs that aren't showing. Whiskers are there for a purpose, or they wouldn't be there... right? Don't they help them with sensory things?

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All my dogs start out as show prospects so they learn early about nails, dremels, clippers and scissors.

I shave the inside of their ears, the ear edge, the seam down each side of the neck, I do scissor the whiskers, and shave the skirt, underside of the tail--clean up the wisps on the end of the tail, down the back legs and back of the front legs. And their nails are dremeled at least every two weeks--I've had dogs who had to be done weekly but some of mine haven't had nails that grew that quickly.

This is all stuff that the owner should be able to do themselves. And for years I used a pair of Wahl clippers that were actually part of a set that was designed to be used to trim hair on kids not dogs. Wahl put out the same kit in black in a pet version that was literally twice as expensive. The clipper was an adjustable type that would clip various lengths. Cost $8 at the time as a kid clipper kit and $19.95 as a dog clipper kit.

It isn't anything you can use for anything except dogs like Dobes or Boxers who need minimal trimming.

I make a promise to all of my dogs--when they are finished with the conformation ring they never have to have their whiskers clipped again. I occasionally shave the edges of their ears before a bath (one of the males grows a ton of hair on his ear edge) and their nails are always kept short but they get to keep their whiskers--and just be dogs for at least that part of the grooming routine.
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I make a promise to all of my dogs--when they are finished with the conformation ring they never have to have their whiskers clipped again..
Hahaha, yep! After they cross the finish line, the dogs here just get to be dogs..with whiskers, hairy ears, and a tuft on the end of their tail (.their stinger). If there's an actual plan to take pictures on a specific day, I *may* trim them up, but those moments are few and far between.



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