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I found some helpful information on VIN regarding the incidence of the infection of different species of hookworm (Ancylostoma caninum vs Uncinaria stenocephala) in various US regions.
  • According to a National Parasite Prevalence Study done by Dr. Byron Blagburn at Auburn in 1996, the national prevalence of Ancylostoma caninum was 19.2%. The prevalence of Uncinaria stenocephala was 1.0%.
  • In the northeast (US), the prevalence of Uncinaria was 0-1% and with Ancylostoma it was 10-15%.
  • In the southeast (US), the prevalence of Uncinaria was only 2% as compared to a prevalence of 37.5% for Ancylostoma.
  • In the south (US), Uncinaria was more prevalent than in other US regions with a 2.2% incidence, however, the prevalence of Ancylostoma was 36.5%.



Based on this information, I think I will be safe using Interceptor, which covers for A. caninum which is the most prevalent hookworm species in the US, and also have the added benefit of whipworm coverage, which isn't offered by Heartgard Plus.

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what's in the southwest or are we safe???
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what's in the southwest or are we safe???
I'm not sure, they didn't have any info for the southwest listed.. But I assume its not too much different from the other regions.



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Sentinel user here. Was recommended by vet as 'double whammy' on fleas plus the worm proetection. Sentinel renders flea eggs unviable. We also use Frontline in flea season since it kills the fleas that hop on for a ride and suck the blood. We don't have as big a flea season in this part of Oregn as other parts of US, but we wanted to be real sure since we have lived in the South and have had a flea infestation before.
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Sentinel and Interceptor are related companies, I'm not sure exactly how (one owns the other or what?). If so, The products couldn't be too different other than the flea vs no flea...

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Currently, I use Heartgard and Advantage for fleas. He's only 17 weeks old so I haven't had any issues yet. But after reading up on interceptor, I think I will change over to that along with frontline for fleas.
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Roman was on heartguard and contracted a mild case of heartworm. The vet can tell how progressive the heartworm is by the color of the test module. He was treated for the heartworm, got his negative test, has been on Interceptor since. Heartworm, "all" worm negative since. (2 years). Our vet says that it has happened before in some dogs taking Heartguard, but he had personally never had the experience of any of his patients taking Interceptor, contracting heartworms, or any other kinds of worm. Interceptor also gets into the dogs bloodstream faster, and is absorbed by more relevant tissue.
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bluizk, this is out of point but I love your avatar. haaha!! is that your dobe being naughty and running away with a toy?! lol so cute.
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That is my husband playing with Roman Giovanni, doing the "crane", with him. A silly game they play together. LOL! It is hysterical to watch them. One of Roman's very favorite toys is the Jolly Ball! He MUST keep it away from the "crane", but upon the "drop"! command-he will immediately "drop". Thanks, I love this pic too! Do you use Heartguard or Interceptor?
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I use interceptor and frontline for my doxie since i had har and on my dobie and had no issues to speak of
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I've just started using Heartgard - so far, no side effects at all. I will keep at it. tropical weather here, mozzies galore. not indoors, but when I take him to the park daily, mozzies wouldn't keep away. but I also lightly mist moonshine over with a natural oil mozzie repellent (citronella etc oil)
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Roman was on heartguard and contracted a mild case of heartworm. The vet can tell how progressive the heartworm is by the color of the test module. He was treated for the heartworm, got his negative test, has been on Interceptor since. Heartworm, "all" worm negative since. (2 years). Our vet says that it has happened before in some dogs taking Heartguard, but he had personally never had the experience of any of his patients taking Interceptor, contracting heartworms, or any other kinds of worm. Interceptor also gets into the dogs bloodstream faster, and is absorbed by more relevant tissue.
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This really worries and upsets the S*** out of me.

My 1st dobe was treated for HW when I got him. FF years later when I moved my Mom had him from Nov-May. That fall or winter I didn't like the way he was acting (coughing & generally scaring the **** out of me) so I took him in....He had HEARTWORMS again! But they were adults as I had been giving him the heartguard.

All these years I wondered whether to blame the 1st vet or my Mom(who wouldn't deliberately be negligent w/meds)....and it could have been a failure of HG?

I just bought Nina 6 months of Heartgard...

/doesn't want to ever see another dog suffer through HW and we are swimming in mosquitos this year in Michigan
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***went to [email protected] the box, ours is the Plus variety...

Is there actually a "plain" Heartgard?

I also notice the temperature range listed on the box is even narrower than my daughter's epi-pen....58-77f.

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The Heartguard Roman was taking WAS Heartguard Plus. I don't know why some dogs do contract heartworm even though they have been given Heartguard diligently. Some have told me it is because the dog does not chew the chewable completely, and just swallows it. I do not know about that. I just do know this. All of my Dobes are on Interceptor. I have 4 Dobes, all are heartworm free, alsways have been. Because of my experience with Roman contracting heartworms, AFTER taking his monthly Heartguard like clockwork, the 5th of every month, I would never switch back to Heartguard. Also, my vet had experienced this same issue with other patients of his over the years. If you are concerned about Nina, I would discuss this with my vet, and consider changing her over to Interceptor. Make sure she takes it every month as I am sure you do, and it helps to take it the same day of the month every month. I'm just saying, if it was me, with what I know now, that is what I would do.
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P.S. Nina is ADORABLE!!
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Thank you ((Bluizk)), she is a character.
Not a bad looking bunch in your family either

Thanks again for posting this.
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In my research (I just got two puppies) it appears that Advantage.Multi is the best for worm control:
Compare Brands to Bayer Advantage Multi

But not for Ticks. Can Frontline Top-Spot and Advantage.Multi be used together? Maybe apply one on the first of the month and the other on the 15th?
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But not for Ticks. Can Frontline Top-Spot and Advantage.Multi be used together? Maybe apply one on the first of the month and the other on the 15th?
My Bayer rep told me that Advantage Multi and Frontline Plus can be safely applied as long as you leave a few days or a week between each treatment (i.e. don't do both on the same day). But personally, I don't want to apply more topical chemicals to my dog than is necessary. If fleas become a problem, I would consider using Advantage and Frontline together (since there have been flea breakthroughs on Frontline), but luckily I have not had an issue.



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The Heartguard Roman was taking WAS Heartguard Plus.
I would be interested to know if he tested negative several months after the heartworm treatment and which treatment was given?
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I give Heartgard right now but have considered Interceptor for the fact it covers Whips. We don't get them very often where I live, and of the dogs I see where I work I've only known 2 cases from dogs brought in out of state. I get my Heartgard free, as well as my Frontline + so I have been giving those without any problems. I always break the chews up into 3 or 4 pieces before giving it to my dogs, just to be sure. I have 1 who chews and 2 who gulp.
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Interceptor and Advantage [if I didn't have 2 cats I'd use advantix]
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I would be interested to know if he tested negative several months after the heartworm treatment and which treatment was given?

I don't know if that was for me or not as it looks like mixed quotes but I was looking for this thread to update that on our visit this monday Nina's vet switched her to Interceptor. When asked she told me she uses interceptor on her dogs so...

Back in the day, '93, he had the old timey iv thing, had a follow up, and was given a clean bill of health. 2 years passed when I found out he had it again, that time he got the shot, which was so new he was the 1st dog at the office to be treated that way.

After getting this prescription I notice the temp parameters on Interceptor are not as narrow as HG's. 59-86f for Interceptor vs. Hg's 68-77f?!

I wish I could just quit wondering about it, but it is scary to be doing what you think is best for your loved one and have something like that happen.
I'm certain my Mom's house got hot during the day when she was at work.
I'll never know.
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I'd also like to thank (((Burns))) for starting this poll thread.
I can't think of any other thread on here that has affected me so personally.

We've gone thru so many epi-pens w/our daughter, "frying" them, and all the drama that goes w/us wherever we go w/nut allergies and here we missed this minor but important detail on another medication.
In other words, all those times I've been made to feel overprotective of those around me it turns out I wasn't!

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I Back in the day, '93, he had the old timey iv thing, had a follow up, and was given a clean bill of health. 2 years passed when I found out he had it again, that time he got the shot, which was so new he was the 1st dog at the office to be treated that way.
The old way of heartworm treatment (IV) wasn't as effective and now the standard is to run another heartworm test after immiticide shots to make sure that it worked. It's possible that your dog still had a worm or two left from the original infection that showed up later.

Just a side note. Our Merial rep said that Heartgard plus does get whipworms but they can't go back and get the label for it because the beef chew would no longer be approved. Whipworms aren't a big problem around here, so not sure what to believe.
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I've used interceptor in the past. Right now the new guy Rosco is being treated for heartworms and must be on an ivormec based preventative. I plan to switch him over to interceptor after he is totally clear, since it is more effective at killing microfilaria.
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