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Dobe with dry skin & dandruff

I've got a 2 year old Black and Tan dobe. He has dry skin all the time, and the dandruff is horrible. I'm fairly new to owning a dobe, I'm told they just have bad skin and its something ill have to get, used to. But as a worried mom, I'm wondering what I can do to help his skin. He has also been diagnosed with pancreatitis, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. He is on Fromm adult gold, and gets salmon oil supplements in his food. I've tried not bathing him, I've tried great hypo allergenic oatmeal shampoos and dandruff shampoos and soaking him for 15-30 mins in moisturizing conditioners... All to no avail, he just gets dandruffy a few hours later. Any info or opinions would be greatly appreciated!


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Has his thyroid been checked?

I assume he's had bloodwork to diagnose the pancreatitis but low thyroid is common in the breed and cam cause bad coat issues

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Try giving him some sort of oil supplement.i'll find the link to the one we gave, it worked wonders! What type of food is he on? A poor quality diet could also be a cause.


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Try giving him some sort of oil supplement.i'll find the link to the one we gave, it worked wonders! What type of food is he on? A poor quality diet could also be a cause.


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She said he eats fromm gold with salmon oil supplements....

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Can't seem to find the link to the brand I gave my guys, but just saw that part of your post. Sorry! What about omega 3 capsules in the food? You could always try that, but I talk to the vet first just to make sure it's ok with the food and supplements you're already feeding.

Another thing, when your bathing, you could try putting baby oil in the water.


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Sasha, baby oil would just make his coat super greasy wouldnt it?


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How frequently do you bathe him? How long has he been on the Fromm? Is he itchy at all? How much Salmon oil do you give?

I agree with considering thyroid testing - be sure they do the full panel.

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Like i said, ive tried not bathing him at all, once every month, two months. Etc. the salmon oil he is on says four pumps for his weight. So ive been giving him four pumps with dinner. He has been on fromm for about 6 mos and on the oil about a month or so.


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Oh, and no, he doesnt seem itchy. Its just so gross having him so dry and dandruffy all the time. Specially after any sort of the rough rubbing he loves so much.


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When you say not bathing at all, how long have you gone? How often do you brush him, and with what?

I don't see it as a normal Dobe thing to be at dry and dandruff-y. It's noticeable with their short, black coats but shouldn't be bad.

If it were me, I'd do thyroid testing and consider switching to another food just to be sure.

In the meantime, you might try the Apple Cider Vinegar wipe down that I always recommend. Dilute it with 3-5 parts water and wipe him down with it every once in awhile. It can help soothe skin, and cleans them without stripping oils. I'm not sure I'd do it every day long-term, but I've used it daily for 2 weeks when Silas had an allergic reaction to cedar mulch. The vinegar smell doesn't last and it helps make the coat shiny, too.

Edit: rough rubbing against the grain of the fur can irritate already dry skin. Maybe try just giving him love in the direction of the fur, not against.

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I just spoke with the rescue group i got him from. His thyroid was checked when he was diagnosed with pancreantitis. She suggested i switch him to grain free fromm. So ill try that for a month or two. She also said i should put him on missing link instead of the salmon oil. Ill be sure to let you guys know what happens with him ive also attached a pic of my handson guyDobe with dry skin & dandruff-imageuploadedbypg-free1365184637.790715.jpg


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Make sure your current vet is aware of his pancreatitis. Be aware of the signs/symptoms of it: Dog Pancreatitis: Types, Causes, Symptoms, and Treatments


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if you use too much, yes. if you use just a small amount, 1 or 2 squirts, I would say it cant hurt to try. I know a lot of people who do this and it makes their skin much softer so I would assume it would be the same for dogs?
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Also when you give him a bath, try to stay away from Oatmeal shampoos! if you are doing grain free with him, try to do tea tree shampoo and a good conditioner. Oatmeal is a grain and it would be like rubbing grains on a dog that has grain issues. just saying

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Touche! Thank you! Hadnt thought of that! Though now you mention it, seems obvious *headwall*


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I would maybe change foods?
Some other things we supplement that is good for skin and coat and health. Raw organic egg, Certified Organic Coconut Oil, canned Sardines in Olive Oil, Vit. E 400iu if it is not already in the Salmon Oil. The Salmon oil give 2 squirts in each meal. We also give 100mg of CoQ10 every day.
Also if his Thyroid checked out ok. Then you can supplement with some Certified Organic Ocean Kelp. Do not over do it with the Kelp it is hi in Iodine. Follow the amount on the bag. We only give 3 days a week.
And feed only good treats. If you feed grain free. Give Grain Free treats. NO junk made in China.
Bath wise look for an all organic shampoo and conditioner. To many baths will take out the natural oil in the skin. Check out All Natural Pet Products | Homeopathic Remedies for Dogs & Cats | Only Natural Pet Store
For sure watch the shampoo with the Oatmeal.
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