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Montreal Dog Trainers - Gaby Popper Review?

Hello,

I started doing private lessons with Gaby. He comes off as a old fashioned, experienced dog handler, very genuine. His private courses go for $450 (tx inc). where the website says 4 weeks / 6 hours.

I wonder how these trainers calculate their time. Do they count travel time? He stayed for 3 hours and talked about alot of stuff, but alot of it was filler (like stories about rich people's idiocy, when he was a kid, jokes etc). Im worried that he may already see 3 hours of our 6 hour course completed, which is like $250....

Anyways, does anyone have experience with Gaby's private course? Website is Private Lessons - Montreal Dog Training | Dog Training Montrea l | Quebec Canada
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While I don't have experience with this trainer, I can provide insight to trainers I have worked with. I've found that the small talk is something to make you feel comfortable- an ice breaker. I know time is money but it's helped me to relieve some of the anxiety I had over a new trainer and different experiences.

If you're unsure about his rates, I'd just ask. Were you provided any time of contract?

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Being from Mirabel Quebec just north of Montreal i can only tell you what i heard on his reputation: he has not a good one and is a guy that can use very rough method. Quite a few yrs ago someone with a GSD had his dog completely ruined by him. He use to advertise on CTV in the weekends. Go with your gut feeling: did you like the guy? did you feel you could trust him? Ask him about his visit and how much of the time frame it took. Remember you are the client you are entitle to ask these questions. He is not doing you a favor you are paying for it after all.

You see my beleif is that any training should be done in group with very good reknown trainers or people who do it for the love of dogs: CLub Canin Chomedey is all done by members of the club who do it for free for their club. I think the amount of money asked for the courses is much cheaper than what you are paying.
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Angry I hired him as well and turned out to be a huge mistake

I had him train my dog as well and it turned out to be a big mistake. I hired him for the board and train service for 950$ and let me begin by telling you that the 950$ acted more of a babysitting fee than a training fee. My dog hasn't changed one bit and still does it's business all over the house and does not know how to lie down or many other basic obidience expected from his "course". He is sometimes rude and his jokes are crude and usually related to Men and Women and sexual inuendo's. My dog stayed with him for 6 weeks and when I would attend the classes he would come clearly under the influence of a certain green plant and my dog would smell like manure and have made no progress made from week to week. When I visited his home for the Sunday family day the dogs are all caged together in a small little pen outside and I find it very difficult to understand how he expected sucess with housebreaking when he has 10 dogs (when his website claims no more than 5 at a time) all grouped together and going to the bathroom outisde in a fenced off area. His home also gives insight to his character which is a bit of an oddball. If I was asked to give a recommendation I would not encourage anyone to hire him, he is a nice guy and he has had success with his own dog which is a perfectly trained doberman but I believe he actually put effort into his own dog. My dog came home no different then the way he left and I cannot stress how disappointed this made me. The day my dog was given back he left certain suggestions which basically turned out to be a recommendation for crate training which is ridiculous because that is why I paid him 950$ so I wouldn't have to potty train him. Since being home I walk my dog every 1-2 hrs and he still has regular accidents in the house I did not expect miracles but I was hoping for some type of improvement ...
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I had him train my dog as well and it turned out to be a big mistake. I hired him for the board and train service for 950$ and let me begin by telling you that the 950$ acted more of a babysitting fee than a training fee. My dog hasn't changed one bit and still does it's business all over the house and does not know how to lie down or many other basic obidience expected from his "course". He is sometimes rude and his jokes are crude and usually related to Men and Women and sexual inuendo's. My dog stayed with him for 6 weeks and when I would attend the classes he would come clearly under the influence of a certain green plant and my dog would smell like manure and have made no progress made from week to week. When I visited his home for the Sunday family day the dogs are all caged together in a small little pen outside and I find it very difficult to understand how he expected sucess with housebreaking when he has 10 dogs (when his website claims no more than 5 at a time) all grouped together and going to the bathroom outisde in a fenced off area. His home also gives insight to his character which is a bit of an oddball. If I was asked to give a recommendation I would not encourage anyone to hire him, he is a nice guy and he has had success with his own dog which is a perfectly trained doberman but I believe he actually put effort into his own dog. My dog came home no different then the way he left and I cannot stress how disappointed this made me. The day my dog was given back he left certain suggestions which basically turned out to be a recommendation for crate training which is ridiculous because that is why I paid him 950$ so I wouldn't have to potty train him. Since being home I walk my dog every 1-2 hrs and he still has regular accidents in the house I did not expect miracles but I was hoping for some type of improvement ...


listen people dog training is not a science it is a long process and after gaby gives you your dog back you are expected to continue with his regulations you cant put the dog into a new environment he hasn't visited in 4 weeks and expect him to behave the same way he does with gaby if you don't continue what he tells you to do. He is a very nice man and his joke while some of them crude are enjoyable and only a tight ass would find them inappropriate he is a great trainer and by no means uses aggressive methods his house is quaint and a great environment for dogs they learn how to socialize with other animals on top of everything else and my dog has returned home having shed all his previous bad habits including barking at cars squirrels and other dogs as well as being perfectly potty trained he will hold it in for 8 hours easily gaby is a great trainer and a great guy everyone will have a bad experience now and then but everyone ive spoken to who has put the time in to attend the lessons to learn how to continue the training even when the dogs come home has had success
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Sorry, people actually give their dogs to their trainers to train?
What happened to the trainer working with the owner? In my books, it's the owner that needs the training more than the dog!
All my private lessons with my trainer were in his facility (not home) with me and my dog and he didn't once handle my dog until I asked him to actually show me something.

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I paid for his private lessons, $450 cash .. big mistake.

On his first lesson he comes over & gives some solid advise, talks with you & asks you a few questions. He covers the basics of health, nutrition, equipment etc but is more comfortable sitting on his ass then getting up and inspecting the dogs living conditions, food, etc. So that was already a red flag.

I attended his group lessons & noticed immediately how he kept calling me out on every little thing I did wrong, over & over & over. He would often take my doberman and get him to do what he wanted but never bothered to walk with me & take my hand & correct my mistakes, just kept showing & showing hoping I would figure it out. The truth is the man is short and its much harder for a taller person to walk the same with as he does .. its like he will only go so far to help you. I found that frustrating!!

On the 2nd private lesson he accused me of not being serious about training (he said I didnt practice with the animal, and I didn't). But instead of guiding me through it or spending the 1 1/2 hours with me he just took off, said to call him when I was serious....

During future group lessons he would often spend more time trying to hit on younger women then pay any attention to me. There was or maybe still is this 1 italian couple that payed the extra sum to have Gaby take care of their dog, and I never saw any difference what-so-ever in its attitude. Im pretty sure the husband looked quite upset about the entire situation when I glanced over at him. It was something like 6 months by that time.

regarding his trianing methods, some of it is okay but he is very hash with animals, ive seen him kick small dogs that get on his nerves & then preach about not hitting animals. This guy is full of it & I wish i had listened to my mother & not forked over the $450 in 1 shot. Fact is dogs are a product of habit & you can condition them to do almost anything but some, like my doberman are stubborn & need a firm hand or a good smack so they will remember not to pee inside or walk in front etc. Stay away unless your a cute girl, then he will be on you like a bee on honey.
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We also had Gaby for private lessons 5 years ago. When my wife and I got our third dog friends suggested we hire Gaby, with the new puppy energy in the house, all 3 dogs were out of kilter! Gaby agreed to come for 6 lessons but came for 8 (at no extra cost) until the issues were sorted out. Over the years we have kept in touch with Gaby, he has proved to be a valuable source of information and his boarding services have been very helpful. When I read the negative comments I felt I had to reply. Gaby has been training dogs for 35 years , His expertise was much appreciated in our complex 3 dog issue and the results were amazingly good.
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Gaby has worked with me and my dogs over many years

Dog training is the art of understanding the pupil and guiding him into a better relationship with his new best friend, and in some cases this takes a great deal of time. Each persons learns at a different pace and sometimes results do not manifest themselves right away. Each person learns about his dog at a different rate.

Gaby has experience to deal with many people and his approach to training may be seen by some as slow. However in the long run you will find out that he is a gifted teacher and the time spent with him will clearly help you with your new best friend. Never be shy to ask him questions as he has a plethora of experience from all the student he has taught over the years.

I have had the pleasure to meet many of his students over the years and most keep going back to see him regularly and view him as a personal friend.

Please feel free to comunicate with me if you need further detailed information on my personal experience with gaby Popper.

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Hello,

I started doing private lessons with Gaby. He comes off as a old fashioned, experienced dog handler, very genuine. His private courses go for $450 (tx inc). where the website says 4 weeks / 6 hours.

I wonder how these trainers calculate their time. Do they count travel time? He stayed for 3 hours and talked about alot of stuff, but alot of it was filler (like stories about rich people's idiocy, when he was a kid, jokes etc). Im worried that he may already see 3 hours of our 6 hour course completed, which is like $250....

Anyways, does anyone have experience with Gaby's private course? Website is Private Lessons - Montreal Dog Training | Dog Training Montrea l | Quebec Canada
I have worked with him and he is a funny and very entertaining trainer that helps you learn about your new best friend. Gaby is reliable and honest and willing to share all his personal experience with any student. He is clear and he expresses himself very openly. Over the years Gaby has helped thousands of people with their dogs, and helped make the learning process fun and enjoyable.
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Thumbs up Gaby Popper Good Trainer

I have a Brown Labrador, which is well know as a hyper dog, he used to jump on the people and when I was taking him out he was pulling too much the leash, me and my wife went on vacations for 3 weeks and we leave our lovely dog with Mr. Popper and at our return he was with a better attitude, but off-course we need to reinforce the good behavior by following the advises gave by Mr. Popper before taking him home.

I think each person has his own experience and is not fear to say that Mr. Popper is not a good trainer only because it didn't work in a few cases, Me I'm so happy with the personal training and also with the group classes.

Just to add some proof of his honesty, once you pay the 150 Dollars of the group lessons or once you pay a personal training your dog will have access to group classes all his live, even is the dog will eventually change the owners!!!

This is a proof of what he will give is a good service!!!!!

Please remember the dog training is not a job for the trainer and for the dog, is a job for the owner too!!!!!!!

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Carlos, you'll find the majority of the folks here refuse to send our dogs to any sort of boot camp...we prefer fostering the relationship with the owner through group classes rather than sending the dog away.

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Smile Gaby Popper private traing worked very well for us

Gaby Popper trained us and our Chesapeake Bay Retriever puppy when she was 6/9 months. The results were excellent as many have commented on how well behaved she is. We were trained on a simple to follow daily training routine that took about 10 minutes per day for 1 month and voila! Obedient dog that sits, heels, stays, lies down etc...Gaby is also an excellent resource for practical ongoing advice for the dogs health and comportment. we highly reccomend his service to anyone looking for effective dog training.
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