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The breeder is Tri-Pinscher. From what little I know, Donna appears to breed dobermans to reflect what a doberman should be.

I called last Friday and left a message asking her to return my call. At the very least, I'm hoping a visit to her kennels will 'get my feet wet' and further my knowledge. I haven't heard back from her yet but maybe she doesn't answer or return calls on the weekend.

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So she breeds 3 types of pinscher? German, Doberman and some other? I don't see that she health tests or titles her dogs and breeders with multiple breeds tend not to be focused on the one you want to buy. I will not get anymore specific than I didn't like some of the things she said on her website.


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Bobby, what, exactly, are you looking for in a dobe?

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^^^^ Yes, maybe if we knew more what you were looking for in a Doberman, we could recommend a few good breeders for you.

Also, what area do you live in and what is your range of travel to look at breeders or pick up a puppy?

I think having that information would save us all some time.

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Breeding dilutes and saying you can 'prevent' hair loss, 3 different breeds... i'd personally pass.
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Bobby, what, exactly, are you looking for in a dobe?
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^^^^ Yes, maybe if we knew more what you were looking for in a Doberman, we could recommend a few good breeders for you.

Also, what area do you live in and what is your range of travel to look at breeders or pick up a puppy?

I think having that information would save us all some time.
OK, here goes. First, I want a male pup. I'm looking for a dog that would be my companion for hiking, for fishing, for acting as a guard dog when I'm camping in secluded areas. I want to train my dog to be obedient and well behaved. I do not plan to show my dog but will probably engage in some agility sport or something practical.

Currently, I live in Edmonton, Alberta but plan to relocate soon to Kamloops, British Columbia. I'm a retired business owner so have both the time to travel as well as the means...within reason. I don't feel the need to search for the 'perfect' specimen, I want a healthy, good representative of the breed.

Thank you for your willingness to offer me some guidance as this is my first time purchasing a pure bred dog.

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What you have described you want in a doberman is a pretty normal doberman. You just want a pet quality boy and there are usually several in any litter. There's nothing wrong with pet quality puppies and the novice owner can rarely see any difference between them and their show quality littermates.

When you talk or email the breeders tell them what you would like in a puppy. A more calm puppy or a go getter for instance. What activities you would like to do like you described above and they will match a puppy suitable for you.

There's some good breeders in Alberta and B.C. both.

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Denmel actually bought Smartie from my boy's breeder, Sunburg in Aledo, TX.

Some of our Canadian members should check in and give recommendations. I'm pretty sure we have some Denmel dobermans on here, Holmrum and Supernova. Janterra looked good to me, too.

When you get to B.C., there are some very good breeders in Washington and Oregon, too.

Be patient as you might have to go on a waiting list, but that's a good thing really. I don't like to see a breeder who always has a puppy available because that might mean they're breeding too much. Always having puppies is a major sign of a less than reputable breeder.

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"What you have described you want in a doberman is a pretty normal doberman."

OK.... ^^^^^ What Linda just said.

And.... You just described my last 4 boys. Your words:

"First, I want a male pup. I'm looking for a dog that would be my companion for hiking, for fishing, for acting as a guard dog when I'm camping in secluded areas. I want to train my dog to be obedient and well behaved. I do not plan to show my dog but will probably engage in some agility sport or something practical."

Find a good, reputable breeder who will agree to sell you a dog as a pet/companion. Probably on a limited registry. Do your research well, you will end up with exactly what you want. Patience is a true virtue when finding the right pup.

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Linda covered everything i would have said. go through the breed club for a referral. if there's a chapter near you or near where you'll be moving to, contact THEM for a more local referral. this is the best way to avoid crappy, scammy breeders who aren't breeding to the standard and doing loads of health testing.

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This morning, Donna of Tri-Pinscher returned my call. She sounded cheerful and enthusiastic plus invited me out to view her doberman pinchers. She did seem more keen on her german pincshers than on the dobermans.

She is only a 35-40 minute drive away so I plan on visiting her next week after I return from a 2 day fishing trip.

Everyone needs to start somewhere, right? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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A quick google search doesn't give any positive responses, more negative ones of being unregistered and telling people their blues won't ever get CDA (although they all have from the looks of it).

I came across her website when I was looking for German Pinscher and just wasn't impressed. You can do much better than this breeder for sure I would cancel your meeting there's just no point.
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This morning, Donna of Tri-Pinscher returned my call. She sounded cheerful and enthusiastic plus invited me out to view her doberman pinchers. She did seem more keen on her german pincshers than on the dobermans.

She is only a 35-40 minute drive away so I plan on visiting her next week after I return from a 2 day fishing trip.

Everyone needs to start somewhere, right? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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Why waste your time? I'm sorry but you've been given really good advice and bee told from those of us who know what we're looking looking in a breeder an your Going to go listen to her spiel and get sucked into he sales pitch.

Good luck to you...


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Why waste your time? I'm sorry but you've been given really good advice and bee told from those of us who know what we're looking looking in a breeder an your Going to go listen to her spiel and get sucked into he sales pitch.

Good luck to you...
Easy, buddy. I'm not the type to get sucked into anyone's spiel. Sometimes you can learn just as much from viewing something wrong as from viewing something right. After viewing a number of breeders, I'll have a better idea of what's good and what's bad for me. I don't see how learning is a waste of time.

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A quick google search doesn't give any positive responses, more negative ones of being unregistered and telling people their blues won't ever get CDA (although they all have from the looks of it).

I came across her website when I was looking for German Pinscher and just wasn't impressed. You can do much better than this breeder for sure I would cancel your meeting there's just no point.
Can you recommend a breeder in the Edmonton area? I'm already aware of the lists of breeders but have yet to have anyone come forward and recommend a breeder. I'm more than willing to visit a recommended breeder and would very much appreciate a name.

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Easy, buddy. I'm not the type to get sucked into anyone's spiel. Sometimes you can learn just as much from viewing something wrong as from viewing something right. After viewing a number of breeders, I'll have a better idea of what's good and what's bad for me. I don't see how learning is a waste of time.

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Yeah but cute puppies + convenience and "nice breeder" can often cloud your judgement as well. I would move on, you can find a much better breeder.
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What you have described you want in a doberman is a pretty normal doberman. You just want a pet quality boy and there are usually several in any litter. There's nothing wrong with pet quality puppies and the novice owner can rarely see any difference between them and their show quality littermates.

When you talk or email the breeders tell them what you would like in a puppy. A more calm puppy or a go getter for instance. What activities you would like to do like you described above and they will match a puppy suitable for you.

There's some good breeders in Alberta and B.C. both.

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Denmel actually bought Smartie from my boy's breeder, Sunburg in Aledo, TX.

Some of our Canadian members should check in and give recommendations. I'm pretty sure we have some Denmel dobermans on here, Holmrum and Supernova. Janterra looked good to me, too.

When you get to B.C., there are some very good breeders in Washington and Oregon, too.

Be patient as you might have to go on a waiting list, but that's a good thing really. I don't like to see a breeder who always has a puppy available because that might mean they're breeding too much. Always having puppies is a major sign of a less than reputable breeder.
My Phoenix is out of Denmel (Smartie) and Supernova (Spartan) and I co-own her with both Breeders-- Cannot say enough good things about eitherh breeders or their dogs. I also agree with Holmrun, also Carpe Diem (Michele's a member here).
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Can you recommend a breeder in the Edmonton area? I'm already aware of the lists of breeders but have yet to have anyone come forward and recommend a breeder. I'm more than willing to visit a recommended breeder and would very much appreciate a name.

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What you have described you want in a doberman is a pretty normal doberman. You just want a pet quality boy and there are usually several in any litter. There's nothing wrong with pet quality puppies and the novice owner can rarely see any difference between them and their show quality littermates.

When you talk or email the breeders tell them what you would like in a puppy. A more calm puppy or a go getter for instance. What activities you would like to do like you described above and they will match a puppy suitable for you.

There's some good breeders in Alberta and B.C. both.

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Denmel actually bought Smartie from my boy's breeder, Sunburg in Aledo, TX.

Some of our Canadian members should check in and give recommendations. I'm pretty sure we have some Denmel dobermans on here, Holmrum and Supernova. Janterra looked good to me, too
.

When you get to B.C., there are some very good breeders in Washington and Oregon, too.

Be patient as you might have to go on a waiting list, but that's a good thing really. I don't like to see a breeder who always has a puppy available because that might mean they're breeding too much. Always having puppies is a major sign of a less than reputable breeder.
Apparently, I wasn't plain enough...the bolded in my post were named recommendations.


The reason some don't want you to visit a less than desirable breeder is because when there are puppies people tend to buy one. All puppies are cute and there's generally one, at the least, that will appeal to you OR many times the puppies are in such cruddy conditions many feel obligated to "rescue" one, which is stupid since they just paid the breeder for being a sh!tty breeder and taking lousy care of the puppies. But a lot of people don't see it that way.

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The last time I remember reading a thread similar to this the poster ended up buying a pup to "rescue" it. Which of course isn't rescuing because the "breeder" is just going to breed more since they sold their dog. A time before that the poster came back having learned the "truth" about this forum and how the breeder was so great and they have learned the error of their ways and will no longer believe us haters. A time before that....basically nothing gained from seeing red flag breeders. At least to the Doberman as a breed.
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I am Janterra, and am in the same area as the 'breeder' posted above. She certainly does not participate in any venue, but the whole reason I know of her is because on various occasions we have witnessed: her selling puppies in the Wal-Mart parking lot; she approached my husband at the car-wash about using the red male that was with him for stud; and I have personally become breeder support for many of her 'customers', because once the cheque cleared - guess what happened? That's right... suddenly her phone, email, etc... did not work anymore.

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Nothing is 'natural' about drop ears. All pure breeds are designed by man with a purpose, form, function and look that is is their heritage, their history - important parts of what made the breed and must be respected and preserved.

If we want the right to have that CHOICE, let's stand up and fight for ALL choice! Let's NOT remain neutral or silent about losing the right to choose just because YOUR choice may not be the one threatened!

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I am Janterra, and am in the same area as the 'breeder' posted above. She certainly does not participate in any venue, but the whole reason I know of her is because on various occasions we have witnessed: her selling puppies in the Wal-Mart parking lot; she approached my husband at the car-wash about using the red male that was with him for stud; and I have personally become breeder support for many of her 'customers', because once the cheque cleared - guess what happened? That's right... suddenly her phone, email, etc... did not work anymore.
Good to know. I've considered a German Pinscher as a medium sized breed in the past but she seems to be the only breeder advertising. The UKC only registration turned me off before I got really into researching her.
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Apparently, I wasn't plain enough...the bolded in my post were named recommendations.


The reason some don't want you to visit a less than desirable breeder is because when there are puppies people tend to buy one. All puppies are cute and there's generally one, at the least, that will appeal to you OR many times the puppies are in such cruddy conditions many feel obligated to "rescue" one, which is stupid since they just paid the breeder for being a sh!tty breeder and taking lousy care of the puppies. But a lot of people don't see it that way.
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The last time I remember reading a thread similar to this the poster ended up buying a pup to "rescue" it. Which of course isn't rescuing because the "breeder" is just going to breed more since they sold their dog. A time before that the poster came back having learned the "truth" about this forum and how the breeder was so great and they have learned the error of their ways and will no longer believe us haters. A time before that....basically nothing gained from seeing red flag breeders. At least to the Doberman as a breed.
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I am Janterra, and am in the same area as the 'breeder' posted above. She certainly does not participate in any venue, but the whole reason I know of her is because on various occasions we have witnessed: her selling puppies in the Wal-Mart parking lot; she approached my husband at the car-wash about using the red male that was with him for stud; and I have personally become breeder support for many of her 'customers', because once the cheque cleared - guess what happened? That's right... suddenly her phone, email, etc... did not work anymore.
Read all these posts again. And then again. And then please don't go visit that breeder. Talk to the good breeders mentioned in this thread. Even if they don't have pups, most of them can and will help you find a good breeder who might. Believe me, I've been down the road of buying from the poor quality breeder before...it's not worth it. I loved her with all my heart, and she also broke it. It's worth buying from a quality breeder, I guarantee you. And no, everyone doesn't need to start "somewhere." Puppies are living creatures and they deserve a good start, and we should support people who do it right. People should only "start" if they are starting right.


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I am the one who posted as Miss Nala on Gentle Dobermans, I want to make a statement regarding her claims on CDA, I have 2 of her Blues which are both confirmed CDA my Miss Nala also has Foliclitis and has been registered as a Z bred dog which Donna refuses to acknowledge. It is factual as my Nala is almost completely bald and we must be very vigilant that she does not get an infection.

I finally had to contact the UKC directly when my Nala was 6 yrs to do a single registration as Donna never registered the litter nor did she have any litters listed over a 3 year period which she claimed. I only have the second blue be cause I rescued him 1.5 years ago. I had to fight with her again to get his records. It was easy once I discovered the single registration with Nala because she was tattooed, the little male was not so I couldn’t tell the UKC the parents.

We had a big fight because she wanted to take him away from me because I was not the “purchaser” and did not sign the agreement so had no rights to him. Due to knowing what I was seeing my Buddy Baloo has been keeping a sparse coat but more than Nala. Poor Nala went through so much because Donna refused to help me with understanding her condition and my vet had never dealt with it before.

When I got my black and tan Scarlet 13 yrs ago I had a hard time then with her holding up her side of the agreement. My Scarlet was the best furbaby, we lost her in July to cancer. Donna has had an accident and is getting older and should not be breeding. The UKC has been notified of my issues and as far as I know she is no longer recognized by the UKC or the CKC.

Please do not buy from Tri-Pinschers!!!

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A quick google search doesn't give any positive responses, more negative ones of being unregistered and telling people their blues won't ever get CDA (although they all have from the looks of it).

I came across her website when I was looking for German Pinscher and just wasn't impressed. You can do much better than this breeder for sure I would cancel your meeting there's just no point.
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