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Found the lovely BYB that bred Hades...

http://whitedobermanpuppies.com/Comet01042011.html

He's the "white male blue collar" I tracked it down based on his AKC papers. Looks like they "specialize" in albinos....oh sorry "white dobermans" how do these places not get shut down?

"Satisfaction guaranteed! We offer the best puppies!" Really?! because your puppy ended up in a rescue half starved to death.




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Wow, just... wow...

Just looking at the home page here...
"Ethical Doberman Pinscher Breeder Award"
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Quality Breeder?

This is makes me sad ...

You'd think there'd be some sort of ethical issue that would disallow this sort of practice from happening. Ignorance on the part of buyers, stupidity on the part of "breeders". It's just so wrong...
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So sad.

It is good he ended up with you in the end and not someone who had no idea what they were getting into when purchasing one of these pups.
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I think this greeder showed up on DT in the past to proclaim "white is right"....

sigh.

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I could not believe this picture...

http://whitedobermanpuppies.com/imag..._09-10_064.JPG

And yes the "white is right" proclamation shows their level of class.


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I'm no stranger to this breeder. I think we've had words on Facebook at least once before and I've done my best to talk a few people away from them.

Hades is lucky to have found his way to you.



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Yup, these guys have been around. Glad hes with you.
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And the health guarantee? *sigh* sounds to me like they basically promise you there's a good shot your dog will drop dead in the first 2 years. And why a 45% discount. That's just a stupid number. Do half for cryin out loud! Lol


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The website itself is obnoxious, borderline seizure inducing with all the flashing and colors. Bleh.

Glad your boy found you and sorry it was a tough road for him.

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Whats the score with white dobermans?
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Whats the score with white dobermans?
They are albinos. Its a genetic mutation that popped up in a single dog years ago, who was then bred back to her offsping and father several times to allow the trait to continue. They are inbred and suffer from all the health issues that albinos of any species do. High incidence of skin cancer, photosensitivity, etc.
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Had Hades at Petsmart today and the vet people from Banfield were making a big fuss over him. One commented "he's beautiful! I've never seen an albino Doberman!!!" Cue me slapping myself on the forehead and launching into "really? Well I'm glad you haven't! there are a lot of breeders making a nice penny on what is technically a genetic mutation, breeding puppies that are riddled with health problems...etc. etc. etc." and once again Hades insists on perpetuating the problem by doling out kisses and resting his head on the shoulder of anyone who squats down to see him. Giving them his patented "Hades hug".

::looks down at Hades:: we're trying to get people to NOT want one just like you! SMH!


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If my count was correct (hard to tell with all the jarring colors and flashing lights)... these people have bred 42 litters in 5 years. O M G.
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If my count was correct (hard to tell with all the jarring colors and flashing lights)... these people have bred 42 litters in 5 years. O M G.
WHAT? Oh my goodness, that is INSANE! If my math is right that is almost one a MONTH and almost eight and a half per YEAR! For the sake of these poor dogs, I hope you miscounted!! I agree, their website is dangerous! Seizure warning!

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Makes me sad. AKC does not mean quality!! The red male looks so scared I want to cry. I want to dognap all their dogs
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I couldn't help myself and sent a quick "you are a disgusting greeder" email - the flashing "email us!!!!!" just couldn't go overlooked. And the answer I got back within minutes was hilarious. I deleted it too quick but will post it once in on the laptop. She told me to "wash out my mouth with soap" and that I was a vulgar foul mouthed person - please note the closest I came to cursing was WTF and told me to mind my own business. It was good for a chuckle but breaks my heart.


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Dobeandbordercollie,

That was exactly the point of my post about adopting albino dobes. Man, you got your work cut out for you with this one! I think it's wonderful that you adopted him but what a shame that you have to educate nearly every single person you come across with Hades. Hopefully, they listen to you and some of it sinks in!

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Im really considering posting a picture of Hades when he first got to the rescue and was a skeleton with something like "here's one of your 100% satisfaction guaranteed puppies who was starved for 2 months before ending up at a rescue! Great job breeding and finding suitable homes for your 'family pets'"


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*posting on their Facebook page*


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At least he found you. It just bothers me that they say they will "issue a store credit"... I don't know, maybe it's just me being me, but I just think being considered a store is wrong.

The fact that you can upgrade your guarantee to a "Lifetime/10 year Guarantee" for $14.99 really irks me as well.
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Let us know what their response is, if any. They'll probably delete your post as soon as you put it up.

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Biggest smile ever right now. I feel like i got revenge for Hades!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/White...857376?fref=ts

lets see how quick they delete it. i did screen shots just in case


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