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Just so you know where I am coming from, this is not the only forum or source for information on the internet, it happens to be the one I chose to join. Prior to inquiring about breeders here I used other internet source and also the local Doberman Club. I think this is the best forum, and have gained a wealth of information from it, and will continue to support it with my membership. It is unfortunate that some members assume that because you just joined, you don't have anything to contribute. My original post simply stated the facts of my purchase, so the original inquirer could use that experience, if they chose to go the same route as myself and purchase an imported dog.
I didn't say that you had nothing to contribute.
I also said forgive me if I misjudged you. I was saying that there always seems to be some "breeder followers" that pop up on this forum to act as a sort of choir for the breeder in question.

I just feel - based on your previous posts - that you did not do enough research on buying an imported dog. That is my personal opinion.

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After many month of research and talking with various breeders I decided upon a dog from Irina. Before making my purchase I visited her kennel, saw her dogs and facilities and spoke at length with her about everything concerning Dobermans. Irina was a wealth of information and extremely patient when explaining various health testing and her dogs. Since I wanted to avoid the early puppy stage I purchased a 7 month old Russian import. Max is a wonderful dog and everything I could hope for. All of his blood work and fecals came back excellent and the vet said he was in perfect health and a beautiful specimen. I would have no hesitation in recommending a dog from Irina based on my experience.
I get that, I really do. The problem with stories such as yours is that you only had a chance to see the good. If nothing goes wrong, that's great but for someone like DantesMom who experienced a problem, that's when one really gets to see how a breeder reacts and what they do. Your success story or even a bunch of them doesn't negate the experience of DantesMom who got to see a completely different side to the breeder. While no one wishes a problem on you and your dog, perhaps if you had one you'd also see things differently.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what visiting her dogs, kennel and facilities really has to do with purchasing an import who is NOT from there anyway.

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I get that, I really do. The problem with stories such as yours is that you only had a chance to see the good. If nothing goes wrong, that's great but for someone like DantesMom who experienced a problem, that's when one really gets to see how a breeder reacts and what they do. Your success story or even a bunch of them doesn't negate the experience of DantesMom who got to see a completely different side to the breeder. While no one wishes a problem on you and your dog, perhaps if you had one you'd also see things differently.
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I think this is an excellent point. It's EASY to be a "good breeder" when everything is going well, the dogs are happy and healthy, etc. What a breeder does when things go wrong is what really defines them.



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what is a runt ??
Yes, a runt is smaller then the rest of the litter. While many runts will thrive and catch up with rest of the litter some are smaller because of some hidden health issue. When I contacted breeders I specified "no runts please" and that the pup was to be average to large weight for the litter. It kind of PO'd some breeders but so be it.
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Also, Spencer is failing to realize that he received an import from that greeder. She didn't breed the dog. She imported the dog. I'm not saying anything bad about Spencer, but he needs to realize that this wasn't a dog she bred. Also, we are all passionate about Dobermans on here, and when a breeder/greeder does what she did, there is no excuse. You don't knowingly sell a dog with heart problems (where the owner had to spend $4000 to fix). When the new owner contacted her, she said, "Yeah, I know he has a heart murmur." What the heck?? No responsible breeder would ever do that to someone. I feel very sad for the pups owner, but at least the NEW OWNER DID THE RIGHT THING and got the poor dog the surgery it needed to live.
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Also, Spencer is failing to realize that he received an import from that greeder. She didn't breed the dog. She imported the dog. .
Also the point I was about to make she had no doing in the breeding of your dog she just profited on being the middlewoman on bringing it over.

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I assumed she bred him - I never saw him advertised. His parents are Klassik Allert Ursula and Canis Maximus Dominus Deus (both gorgeous dogs with pictures on her website).

Nice to know what both of these dogs are now known to be able to throw in their offspring. Wonder how many of these pups carry the gene for this defect.

I am really curious about the genetics of this.

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Thanks Hitman

then i had a runt too
and he is such a strongggggggggg big boy today.Well for a 4 month old i mean.
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I am hoping I will never need to post here again. I don't even know which thread is which any more - I am so famous Here is my synopsis.

I think DT is a great source of information, a great place for people to communicate about their pets, ask for advice or share moments of joy. One exception is this section. This section is a shameful part of this otherwise nice place. It resembles a pool of sharks flocking around the smell of blood. Throw them a breeder and see what is going to be left of him or her. But I plan on surviving.

Participants of this particular section are biased, angry and prejudiced. When a few courageous ones voiced their support, what feedback did they get? Suspicion – one time posters shouldn’t be trusted. Skepticism – any positive feedback shouldn’t be taken into consideration. And simple denial. Who on earth can possibly like Canis Maximus dogs?! If we think there is nothing good about this breeder, then no matter what, there is nothing good about this breeder. And then something negative is voiced. And all these sharks rush in anticipation of blood and food. Compare how many of you thanked people who are happy with my dogs and how many of you thanked the person who so blatantly ‘not recommends me’. There is something seriously wrong with you guys if you are in such a hurry to support any negativity towards Canis Maximus.

So, she doesn’t recommend me. Why? Because she was given plenty of time to decide? Because she was given an option to choose? Because she was given full disclosure as to the condition of the puppy? Because she was warned beforehand of a higher chance of future health issues? Because I didn’t turn my back onto her and agreed to take the dog back for a full refund? Because she had an option to return the dog? Is this why she doesn’t recommend me? Oh, I’d love to be this "unrecommended" breeder then.

The simple answer to all of this is that Mrs. Leontiev cannot stomach taking responsibility for her choices.

E-v-e-r-y single puppy born in my house is taken to the vet within a week after birth. The vets check for malformations, cleft palate, closed anus, heart murmurs and similar issues. I had NO reason to believe this dog had a heart defect prior to purchase. But I knew from the beginning he was the runt. He was considerably smaller, not as strong, not up to the conformation standard. He didn’t catch up to his siblings either. He was the RUNT.
There were many people emailing, the price was too appealing, but just the word runt by itself scared many away. However, I never hid the fact that he was the runt from anyone. I am no god, no fortune teller to foresee how a runt will turn out in the future.

Mrs. Leontiev was fully aware of my conditions:
1. Full disclosure - Runt.
2. Low price.
3. Limited liability on my part.
4. Higher possibility of a health issue.
5. Shipping extra.


By choosing this particular puppy, she agreed to my terms. If she didn’t want to accept them, she could have looked somewhere else, there is an abundance of puppies, or chosen a normal puppy with a full health guarantee. She had plenty of time to think it over, research, ask for advice, fly over to look at him as she originally planned, or even look somewhere else. Nobody forced her into picking that particular puppy. There are plenty of pups all over the US and in Florida to choose from. She could have waited for a normal pup with a full health guarantee from a later litter. What her motivation was, I don’t know. She picked what she picked. It was HER choice, made in clear mind. Unfortunately, HER choice didn’t make her happy, so she chose to come here and intentionally hurt my reputation.

Shifting responsibility is so convenient, especially when all these shark are so eager to support and comfort. Bad Canis Maximus, screwed you up! Poor Lisa, poor puppy. Or is that really so?

I made it clear that my guarantee, read: responsibility, was limited. The buyer was fully aware of that well before the purchase. What claims can be made towards me later on?
Example 1. A lawyer charges a client a service fee before any legal proceeding takes place. If the client loses in court or the judgement is not as expected, the lawyer won’t refund the legal fees.
Example 2. When you drop of your pet for a surgical appointment, you normally sign an affidavit that there is a chance of the animal dying under anaesthesia, and that you were notified about that, and if something happens, it is not the surgeon’s liability as long as the surgery was performed correctly.
Example 3. You buy a foreclosed home. Price is low, the deal is great. The bank will make you sign an ‘as-is’ clause. The bank doesn’t know what is inside the house, what might be wrong with it. You bear the burden of doing research on your own. In return you get a good deal on the house, most often below the market value. If you are satisfied, you go to closing with this affidavit.
All these are examples of limited liability, which was communicated to Mrs. Leontiev BEFOREHAND. She was also warned that some runts develop health problems.

So, why the hell is this fuss about this issue? Was I willing to take the dog back? Of course, I was! It was Mrs. Leontiev’s CHOICE again not to return him. Funny how she keeps making choices and trying to blame someone else for that.

This issue is closed now.
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My sincerest belief is that a breeder who doesn’t show should not breed AT ALL. A breeder who does show doesn’t need this or any other forum to analyze and scrutinize the breeder’s work. There are licensed judges for that reason.
Most of you are no-namers, who will vanish in obscurity of time without leaving a trace in the Doberman history. But why do you think you have the right to sit here and criticize anybody? You are like that tabloid magazine that published a story about David Beckham cheating on his wife. They heard something somewhere and rushed to publish sensational news to generate interest. Now there is a lawsuit thrown in their face.
Same here. Gossip-gossip-gossip.

I do not care what most these no-namers say, therefore I am not going to even bother reading any of this board. I only care about what judges in Europe say. My show results are consistent. And I am looking forward to showing my young promises.

Half of my last litter, which turned out to be stunning, went to people who first learned about me on this forum. I must be not that bad if they chose me, took time to come visit me, have seen my pups, got to know my family. And what do most of you know about me?

Remember how you all criticized Britton Farms? And guess what! He got smarter than all of you. He raised his prices, he doesn’t give a thing about this forum, he got a titled stud with a catchy photo even though the stud has plenty of conformation flaws, he did basic testing on his females, and you can technically consider him reputable. Is he really? He still has no clue how to breed except for profit. And funny thing, people are still buying his pups. So, what did you all achieve?

I remember somebody saying something like ‘yikes’ regarding my kennel. If you have nothing better to say than some kindergarten-level slang, don’t post. Take a deep breath and go gossip with your spouse. This is a public forum. When it comes to breeders, yikes, likes, dislikes, emoticons, is shallow, even childish. Stick to the facts.
And the facts are: we just finished two dogs, my litters are getting progressively better and better in quality, and we keep picking nice breeding combinations – my litters this year, all hit the target. All my vets will recommend me without thinking twice.

Overall, this DT board had some beneficial effect. It helped me redirect my priorities. I limited imports in order to be able to keep show-potentials from my own litters. I plan on showing them as long as they stay as stunning as they are right now. DT brought many great people into my life and life of my dogs and I look forward to all the years together.

The rest is probably so silly I won't lose much if I don't ready any of it. Most of you are incapable of reading and properly digesting. No matter how many times I have to say I only breed Dobermans and was registered as a breeder of ONE boxer litter TWO years ago, some no-namer will always pop up and claim I breed 10 different breeds. Why not say I breed them all? This is the main reason I find it impossible for me to be here any more. No matter what I say, my every word will be turned upside down and dissected even though I speak English as a foreign language.

Inability to understand, accept, change one’s mind, break a stereotype, see the difference is your, folks, problem. Not mine. But good news is, as long as you keep it all this way, this section will keep blooming.

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Small insight into my imports.

We had imports from:
1. Sant Kreal – kennel that turned the breed from 0 to 10 in their region, kennel that gave the world several IDC class winners, International Champions, and a number of top producers.
2. Rossiiskiy Kolorit – legendary kennel that gave the world such dogs as Tsarevich (who greatly improved whole Doberman population in Ukraine), Tamerlan who greatly improved the overall quality of European dobs, Tigr who is in the pedigree of most top European studs, including Fedor del Nasi, Trefovaya Dama, whose offsprings in the kennel Teraline have been winning numerous and numerous shows, including World Championships and IDC – Siegershau.
3. A’Donikons – one of the Russia’s oldest kennels, stable producer of show Champions.
4. Filimamont – home of legendary Tamerlan.
… just to name a few.
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If you can’t see the greater good, I have nothing more to say on this forum. Discussing other people’s problems is much easier than taking care of your own. EVERY person has problems, every breeder sooner or later runs into some kind of dog-related issue. I’ve had those too. But this current issue is not worth any of the current publicity. I feel like a celebrity now. Just paparazzi missing.


All the best to all.

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I haven't gotten involved but I'm going to say this:

When you have puppies cropped, you should have a vet check before hand including having the vet listening to the heart with a stethoscope to rule out an obvious heart murmur. If the heart murmur was truly that bad, it would have been caught at that time.

As a breeder, if I had a puppy that was smaller than normal and did not have the same level of energy as the other puppies, I would question that and have my vet check them out. It seems that the heart murmur was pretty bad and would have been caught by a vet check up. I sure as heck would not be selling that puppy for a reduced price! That puppy would most likely have been euthanized instead of passing it on to be someone else's problem.

I try not to judge other breeders, but really at what point is it just greed? Refund the person their purchase price at least!!

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To me, there is a huge difference between purchasing a runt, who may have a 'higher possibility of a health issue' in the future, and purchasing a puppy that the breeder knows for sure already has heart problems, diagnosed by a vet.

Two totally different things in my book, I would never buy a puppy that had an issue that big, and would be pissed beyond belief if the breeder knew and never told me.
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I am hoping I will never need to post here again. I don't even know which thread is which any more - I am so famous Here is my synopsis.

I think DT is a great source of information, a great place for people to communicate about their pets, ask for advice or share moments of joy. One exception is this section. This section is a shameful part of this otherwise nice place. It resembles a pool of sharks flocking around the smell of blood. Throw them a breeder and see what is going to be left of him or her. But I plan on surviving.

Participants of this particular section are biased, angry and prejudiced. When a few courageous ones voiced their support, what feedback did they get? Suspicion – one time posters shouldn’t be trusted. Skepticism – any positive feedback shouldn’t be taken into consideration. And simple denial. Who on earth can possibly like Canis Maximus dogs?! If we think there is nothing good about this breeder, then no matter what, there is nothing good about this breeder. And then something negative is voiced. And all these sharks rush in anticipation of blood and food. Compare how many of you thanked people who are happy with my dogs and how many of you thanked the person who so blatantly ‘not recommends me’. There is something seriously wrong with you guys if you are in such a hurry to support any negativity towards Canis Maximus.

So, she doesn’t recommend me. Why? Because she was given plenty of time to decide? Because she was given an option to choose? Because she was given full disclosure as to the condition of the puppy? Because she was warned beforehand of a higher chance of future health issues? Because I didn’t turn my back onto her and agreed to take the dog back for a full refund? Because she had an option to return the dog? Is this why she doesn’t recommend me? Oh, I’d love to be this "unrecommended" breeder then.

The simple answer to all of this is that Mrs. Leontiev cannot stomach taking responsibility for her choices.

E-v-e-r-y single puppy born in my house is taken to the vet within a week after birth. The vets check for malformations, cleft palate, closed anus, heart murmurs and similar issues. I had NO reason to believe this dog had a heart defect prior to purchase. But I knew from the beginning he was the runt. He was considerably smaller, not as strong, not up to the conformation standard. He didn’t catch up to his siblings either. He was the RUNT.
There were many people emailing, the price was too appealing, but just the word runt by itself scared many away. However, I never hid the fact that he was the runt from anyone. I am no god, no fortune teller to foresee how a runt will turn out in the future.

Mrs. Leontiev was fully aware of my conditions:
1. Full disclosure - Runt.
2. Low price.
3. Limited liability on my part.
4. Higher possibility of a health issue.
5. Shipping extra.


By choosing this particular puppy, she agreed to my terms. If she didn’t want to accept them, she could have looked somewhere else, there is an abundance of puppies, or chosen a normal puppy with a full health guarantee. She had plenty of time to think it over, research, ask for advice, fly over to look at him as she originally planned, or even look somewhere else. Nobody forced her into picking that particular puppy. There are plenty of pups all over the US and in Florida to choose from. She could have waited for a normal pup with a full health guarantee from a later litter. What her motivation was, I don’t know. She picked what she picked. It was HER choice, made in clear mind. Unfortunately, HER choice didn’t make her happy, so she chose to come here and intentionally hurt my reputation.

Shifting responsibility is so convenient, especially when all these shark are so eager to support and comfort. Bad Canis Maximus, screwed you up! Poor Lisa, poor puppy. Or is that really so?

I made it clear that my guarantee, read: responsibility, was limited. The buyer was fully aware of that well before the purchase. What claims can be made towards me later on?
Example 1. A lawyer charges a client a service fee before any legal proceeding takes place. If the client loses in court or the judgement is not as expected, the lawyer won’t refund the legal fees.
Example 2. When you drop of your pet for a surgical appointment, you normally sign an affidavit that there is a chance of the animal dying under anaesthesia, and that you were notified about that, and if something happens, it is not the surgeon’s liability as long as the surgery was performed correctly.
Example 3. You buy a foreclosed home. Price is low, the deal is great. The bank will make you sign an ‘as-is’ clause. The bank doesn’t know what is inside the house, what might be wrong with it. You bear the burden of doing research on your own. In return you get a good deal on the house, most often below the market value. If you are satisfied, you go to closing with this affidavit.
All these are examples of limited liability, which was communicated to Mrs. Leontiev BEFOREHAND. She was also warned that some runts develop health problems.

So, why the hell is this fuss about this issue? Was I willing to take the dog back? Of course, I was! It was Mrs. Leontiev’s CHOICE again not to return him. Funny how she keeps making choices and trying to blame someone else for that.

This issue is closed now.
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About DT.

My sincerest belief is that a breeder who doesn’t show should not breed AT ALL. A breeder who does show doesn’t need this or any other forum to analyze and scrutinize the breeder’s work. There are licensed judges for that reason.
Most of you are no-namers, who will vanish in obscurity of time without leaving a trace in the Doberman history. But why do you think you have the right to sit here and criticize anybody? You are like that tabloid magazine that published a story about David Beckham cheating on his wife. They heard something somewhere and rushed to publish sensational news to generate interest. Now there is a lawsuit thrown in their face.
Same here. Gossip-gossip-gossip.

I do not care what most these no-namers say, therefore I am not going to even bother reading any of this board. I only care about what judges in Europe say. My show results are consistent. And I am looking forward to showing my young promises.

Half of my last litter, which turned out to be stunning, went to people who first learned about me on this forum. I must be not that bad if they chose me, took time to come visit me, have seen my pups, got to know my family. And what do most of you know about me?

Remember how you all criticized Britton Farms? And guess what! He got smarter than all of you. He raised his prices, he doesn’t give a thing about this forum, he got a titled stud with a catchy photo even though the stud has plenty of conformation flaws, he did basic testing on his females, and you can technically consider him reputable. Is he really? He still has no clue how to breed except for profit. And funny thing, people are still buying his pups. So, what did you all achieve?

I remember somebody saying something like ‘yikes’ regarding my kennel. If you have nothing better to say than some kindergarten-level slang, don’t post. Take a deep breath and go gossip with your spouse. This is a public forum. When it comes to breeders, yikes, likes, dislikes, emoticons, is shallow, even childish. Stick to the facts.
And the facts are: we just finished two dogs, my litters are getting progressively better and better in quality, and we keep picking nice breeding combinations – my litters this year, all hit the target. All my vets will recommend me without thinking twice.

Overall, this DT board had some beneficial effect. It helped me redirect my priorities. I limited imports in order to be able to keep show-potentials from my own litters. I plan on showing them as long as they stay as stunning as they are right now. DT brought many great people into my life and life of my dogs and I look forward to all the years together.

The rest is probably so silly I won't lose much if I don't ready any of it. Most of you are incapable of reading and properly digesting. No matter how many times I have to say I only breed Dobermans and was registered as a breeder of ONE boxer litter TWO years ago, some no-namer will always pop up and claim I breed 10 different breeds. Why not say I breed them all? This is the main reason I find it impossible for me to be here any more. No matter what I say, my every word will be turned upside down and dissected even though I speak English as a foreign language.

Inability to understand, accept, change one’s mind, break a stereotype, see the difference is your, folks, problem. Not mine. But good news is, as long as you keep it all this way, this section will keep blooming.

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Small insight into my imports.

We had imports from:
1. Sant Kreal – kennel that turned the breed from 0 to 10 in their region, kennel that gave the world several IDC class winners, International Champions, and a number of top producers.
2. Rossiiskiy Kolorit – legendary kennel that gave the world such dogs as Tsarevich (who greatly improved whole Doberman population in Ukraine), Tamerlan who greatly improved the overall quality of European dobs, Tigr who is in the pedigree of most top European studs, including Fedor del Nasi, Trefovaya Dama, whose offsprings in the kennel Teraline have been winning numerous and numerous shows, including World Championships and IDC – Siegershau.
3. A’Donikons – one of the Russia’s oldest kennels, stable producer of show Champions.
4. Filimamont – home of legendary Tamerlan.
… just to name a few.
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If you can’t see the greater good, I have nothing more to say on this forum. Discussing other people’s problems is much easier than taking care of your own. EVERY person has problems, every breeder sooner or later runs into some kind of dog-related issue. I’ve had those too. But this current issue is not worth any of the current publicity. I feel like a celebrity now. Just paparazzi missing.


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Hi, just to give an update. Sampson is doing well - the vet said the surgery was successful and he won't have to take medication for the rest of his life as I feared he might. I'm attaching a recent picture. He also ballooned in size after his surgery: he now weighs over 40lbs, he's lanky, has big floppy ears and huge feet.

Finally, I'd like to respond to Irina's claims that she advised me "runts have a much higher probability of health problems." That is absolutely not true. I specifically asked whether him being the runt would affect his health in anyway. Her exact reply was "I don't know. One of the previous runts, she had a kidney failure," but that he had "good parents, good lineage" and she assured me that he would arrive with "no visible physical defects, no contagious diseases.” I assumed this meant he would arrive with a clean bill of health from the vet, but that there were no promises as to developing illnesses in the future. My disappointment with Irina's behavior is that my puppy was ill WHEN I RECEIVED HIM, and she knew it.
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First of all...I want to apologize to all Dobie owners. I am not one but I have been following Dante's mom's post with concern, and I have some additional comments to add to the Irina Barrett debucle, and her unethical, underhanded methods, which may open some eyes.
1. She states she does not breed anything but Doberman's! Really!!? I know for a fact she breeds Great Danes! How? My sire was bred to her dam. I did the breeding and yes she was nowhere near when it was done. She did have a litter of 8 pups with 1 dying.
2. One of my dane owners saw my sire on her euro K-9 website, after a friend purchased one of her dobies and he called me for info and advise about this pup after seeing the info posted on this forum. "It was told that she had many types of dogs and puppies at her kennel, which he saw their living conditions when he visted the kennel".
3. After reading the many complaints about the "runt" puppy. I feel sorry for the buyer, the expense it has cost her, but HAPPY, this innocent baby has someone who cares about him now and is willing to protect him at any expense.We as well bought several danes from her and they "all" have come with many problems. A black dane had the equivelent of "rickets" and "tennis elbow", 2 blues were skinny as rails, they all had "coccidia", kennel cough, and were exposed to parvo that went through her kennel. She sent the dam to my kennel knowing she had coccidia in her kennel and was treating it. This dam was also at another kennel in route for breeding and she was told after the fact, and she lost a pup to coccidia in her litter.
4. She was a broker/importer not the "breeder" to my sire. He came to me with severe skin infection and ear infection which since has become chronic. Irina blamed this on the 12 hr flight in from the Ukraine! She tried to hold his "import pedigree papers" and gave me a copy of them, which could not be used with the AKC to register him. (Does this sound like an upstanding breeder? What was she planning to do with the original papers?). He was imported (as many of these pups are) without a "rabies innoculation" but had documentation that it "had" been given from a vet. This is in direct violation of US and Foreign Customs as well as APHIS and CDC rules and regulations. The pup needed to be quarantined till he was given the shot and again for 30 days after, Irina said that's how we get them in!
5. Pups were purchased from her, paid for, and she registered them to herself after giving us the Import Pedigrees and foreign registration forms, which were signed by her.
6. She registered 12 pups to my sire when the litter consisted of 7 live pups. We also gave her 5 pups from my sire's son's litter as payment on the dogs. She sold a pup from my sire's son's litter and gave the people pedigree papers on my sire. ETHICAL?
7. After the blue/blue breeding she allowed her harl to bred this dam as well. She claims it was an accident and granted we all have "OOPSIES" at least once in a breeding career, but now that I have the AKC demanding DNA testing on this litter, she refuses to comply and is selling them without AKC papers, combining litters, and providing false pedigrees on these pups to "unsuspecting buyers".
8. As to her contract , it has so many twists and turns and legal gargon. That it is basically good for about 3 days. Yes I do have a copy and know how it reads. If you don't see a vet in 3 days it's basically void. Sometimes that just isn't attainable, as most vets work on their schedules not ours.

In conclusion, I let you the people of this forum to decide for yourself as to how ethical, moral, how good of a breeder (I mean liar) she is. Regardless, of what type of contract she had or had not with this woman with the heart murmur. It was unethical, underhanded, deceitful (non-disclosure), to not disclose this "VERY IMPORTANT FACT". She sold a puppy to someone uninformed (whether or not dante's mom did her research doesn't matter,) that's a breeders job to inform and educate her buyer and take as much time as is needed for her to understand what risks she was taking. If she was such a good breeder, why did she assume that this woman understood exactly what runt means? The dictionary defines a runt as a small, weak, animal. Nothing mentioned about "defective". I don't understand it from what she has stated in her rants. Does that mean you put a pup out for sheer profit, without regard for it's health and well being? In this business we loose money more than make it, if you count what you make by the hr. Some of my kids should have a "dowry" when they leave for "forever homes". Proper placement requires time. When you breed or broker dogs...you also take on the expenses incurred with each pup, and always run the chance the pup won't sell. She just will not "admit" she is responsible for this pup's expenses. He was a "lemon" (no offense) from day one. Genetics are a tough thing...but be a "good breeder" and admit guilt and assume total responsiblity. This pup has survived, thanks to the love, determination and excellent vet care that this woman has provided when a "careless breeder" put her in a bad position. KUDOS DANTE"S MOM!!!!!
Lets see if Irina will try and deny what I am saying. She has told me I am hullucinating and have a mental illness. You only need to look on puppyfind.com in Virginia. Look under the title "solid blue", she goes by european K-9 center, see what a dog looks like from her kennel with coccidia, then you be the judge of this womans integretity.
Thank you for allowing me to share my facts and views, and maybe further substantiate how this breeder operates, what's she is capable of, and yes she may put some excellent stock out to buyers...but the odds are in her favor for that to occur more often than to produce sick pups with genetic defects if her stock dogs are geneticaly sound.
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It is about time that someone actually told the truth about Irina Barrett. These are actual facts and maybe some babies will be saved because of this info finally getting out to the public. Thanks!!!!!!!!
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So, you are saying this is Irina Barrett, aka CMax?

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Uhm, yep. They have the same phone number if you go to their contact pages.

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Note that she doesn't have her name anywhere on the Great Dane website, either.

I wonder what this woman's kennel REALLY looks like.. I'm thinking, suspiciously like a puppy mill.


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Same woman is posing the danes and the dobes in the photos...(I didn't check out the boxers)...'other listings' for eurok9's lists brings up the dobes listed as eurodobies...which is the same link on Cmax's signature....so if it's not a "yes" there's a solid association at the very least.

btw...is it just me...or were there a lot of great danes being offered by this breeder? (me, not being au fait with a "managable" amount of great danes...but I imagine they'd be just as much, if not more work than dobes?)
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No matter how many times I have to say I only breed Dobermans and was registered as a breeder of ONE boxer litter TWO years ago, some no-namer will always pop up and claim I breed 10 different breeds. Why not say I breed them all? This is the main reason I find it impossible for me to be here any more. No matter what I say, my every word will be turned upside down and dissected even though I speak English as a foreign language.
I'm really confused here, and nothing against you...but who is breeding the Great danes if you only breed dobermanns?

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I'm really confused here, and nothing against you...but who is breeding the Great danes if you only breed dobermanns?
I think she may be saying she breeds her own dobermanns, BUT she does import puppies and whole litters of Boxers and Great Danes still.

At least 3 Great Dane litters and 4 boxer litters from May 2010...

http://www.eurogreatdane.com/lit.html

European boxers, European boxer puppies, Schutzhund

Notice how it says "Mating in Russia".."Mating in Belgium"...etc

And then:

European boxers, European boxer puppies, Schutzhund

Wait..that says they had a planned breeding for their own dogs for the second half of 2010...

Not to mention the harl and merle danes that she's breeding/selling, I have my own personal opinions about that.

Disgusting, really

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Note that she doesn't have her name anywhere on the Great Dane website, either.
All you need to do is check the owner info for the domain. Irina Barrett is the registrant and admin contact for the domain eurogreatdane.com


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Wonder how many lies she would need to be caught in for folks to stop thanking her posts and supporting her as a greeder?




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