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Question New member in need of help with breeder

Hello everyone my name is Riley . I am largely new to the doberman community. I personally have never had a doberman before and had been looking for a breeder for a while. I found a breeder by the name of Merab his website is https://k9vomhismerh.com/our-kennel/ . I currently don't have any indicators as to him not being an excellent breeder however when I went to do some more research on his dogs and the dogs associated with the upcoming litters I came across a thread on this site with some disheartening news(https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...rh-kennel.html). This sparked an internal debate that I've been having and I thought why not make an account and start a conversation.
Before just a little about me, I have hand a handful of dogs ranging in size and breed, from a Cane Corso to a soft coated wheaten terrier. I've been looking for a dog and my mother recommended a doberman to me since she has had two. I am financially independent and have more than enough time to take care of a dog. I was wondering what your guys thoughts were on the breeder and if you could give me any advice. PS I've already put down a $300 deposit and was notified that I am currently 26th in line for a Black and Tan female alone. I've spoken to the breeder on the phone he sounds to be a very helpful generous guy. I've checked his social medias, and I became confident that I had found the perfect breeder to get a good healthy puppy. Price is not the problem I am just looking for a companion who will have a healthy long life. If anyone knows anything more I would appreciate it.
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I have some concerns about the breeder you mentioned, just judging from his website—I don't know him and haven't seen his dogs—but…

1. He appears to have a LOT of dogs and is doing a lot of breeding. I question whether he can properly socialize them when he has several litters on the ground at once. I would want to know how the dogs are raised—are they basically "kennel" dogs? What specifically is he doing to "socialize" the puppies?

2. He mentions that you can pick the puppy you want. Reputable breeders try to match their puppies' temperaments to a specific buyer. Different buyers and households have different needs, and a dog that thrives in one environment won't necessarily do well in another. The breeder should have the best idea of the temperament of each puppy he is producing—aside from things like color and sex, he is the one best qualified to match each puppy to a prospective owner.

3. I don't see any evidence of testing other than his statement that the dogs are genetically tested for health problems. He should not be relying on genetic testing to determine whether his breeding stock is healthy. DCM, for example, appears to have multiple genes that interact to produce the disease. There are currently NO genetic tests that will determine whether your dog will develop DCM.

There are tests for two genes that seem to be implicated in the disease, but they are not the entire picture, because a dog can be positive for the genes and never develop DCM, and he can be negative and develop it. We simply don't know enough about the genetics of the disease to pinpoint how it is passed down and what dog will develop it. He should be doing testing on the actual breeding pair—both a 24 hour holter and an echocardiogram, done within the year previous to the breeding.

Most health conditions don't have specific genetic tests; the breeder should be doing actual testing on the breeding pair and also looking at his bloodlines to determine whether there in increased incidence of things like liver disease, cancer, heart problems, sudden deaths…but I don't see anything on his website which indicates that he is doing much more than simple genetic testing.

4. 26th in line for a puppy? You shouldn't have to put down a deposit simply to be on a waiting list. Most breeders don't take deposits until a particular litter is born; they have no idea how many puppies they will have available, for one thing. If he is producing enough puppies that he feels will have a puppy for you even within the next year (again, 26th in line for a specific gender?), he is likely to be breeding too much—too many litters on the ground at once.
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I spoke to him on the phone earlier today to ask some more questions regarding the dogs. He told me that I would be able to meet the mother and take a look around the facility when its my turn and the pups are 4-5 weeks old.

You make very valid points about the DCM and that genetic testing cannot paint the whole picture. I will use this to better ask questions in the future. However, he told me that he does genetic testing and that all of the information I could want would be available to me.

I also inquired about some of the dogs he's breeding not being his own, and he told me he gets some of the studs from Europe and that all of the females he breeds are his and that I would be able to meet the mothers.

I asked about what kinds of socialization he does and he told that not much can be done at that age since they are just getting their shots. I think maybe his misinterpreted what I had said in regards to that.

I'm still holding onto hope but if anyone knows of a good breeder in the NY tri state area I'm still very open to other options. I spent many hours today calling many of the breeders listed on the DPCA. All of them either didnt answer the phone or were not breeding for another 6-8 months.
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i swear i saw a post recently about this exact breeder! let me see if i can find it

Edit: cant find it i am sorry... i dont want to say anything without knowing for sure. good luck

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We had a former member here who had a dog from this breeder and her dog died at 5 or so years old from DCM. I would go to a different breeder! If you can try to get your money back great, otherwise, I would still walk... run, away.
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Uh... 29 GSD bitches, 8 GSD dogs, 7 Dobe bitches, and 2 Dobe dogs, with 8 GSD litters whelped (47 puppies) from 7-14-20 to 8-27-20, 3 more GSD litters due, 2 Doberman litters (20 puppies) whelped between 7-30-20 to 8-16-20, and 5 more Doberman litters due? Plus one GSD bitch had a false pregnancy and another lost the litter. (I had to write everything down, because I kept losing track.... )

Sheer numbers alone is enough to turn me off.


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Uh... 29 GSD bitches, 8 GSD dogs, 7 Dobe bitches, and 2 Dobe dogs, with 8 GSD litters whelped (47 puppies) from 7-14-20 to 8-27-20, 3 more GSD litters due, 2 Doberman litters (20 puppies) whelped between 7-30-20 to 8-16-20, and 5 more Doberman litters due? Plus one GSD bitch had a false pregnancy and another lost the litter. (I had to write everything down, because I kept losing track.... )

Sheer numbers alone is enough to turn me off.
Wow !!! That is a production facility. I doubt you would find much love there. ughhh.

I wonder how many liters these bitches are whelping through out their lives.

If Rosemary's post is half true i would run and if the money is not returned you are still far ahead.
Good luck in finding the right pup!
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Wow !!! That is a production facility. I doubt you would find much love there. ughhh.

I wonder how many liters these bitches are whelping through out their lives.

If Rosemary's post is half true i would run and if the money is not returned you are still far ahead.
Good luck in finding the right pup!
I just counted up what they have posted on their website.


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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCu3NWt..._web_copy_link

This is a post from their official instagram of where the bitches whelp.

I was completely unaware to how many GSD bitches they had. I'm growing in concern by the minute. Another posted that a former member had their dobe die around 5 from DCM. If theyre putting out this much volume I'd have to imagine that they would get a few who are like that.

I spoke to an experienced trainer earlier today semi local to the original breeder when searching for an additional option and he told me that he didnt exactly know the guy but that he had trained a couple of his puppies and that they had good temperament. That gave me some hope but I don't know.

It's probably my naive nature surrounding puppies but I'm grasping at straws right hoping that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

If anyone has any recommendations on other places to potentially look I'm all ears.
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Welcome to the forum!

I'm sure members can recommend some good breeders.

Where are you located? And what are you looking for in a Doberman, i.e., companion, sport, show? <-- That will help us know what sort of breeder to recommend.



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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCu3NWt..._web_copy_link

This is a post from their official instagram of where the bitches whelp.
Wow... talk about a bland, boring, and totally uninteresting environment.


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First, I want to say welcome from Colorado.

Second, I do want to echo what everyone else is saying: that "breeder" is highly questionable, at least in my opinion. If you can get your deposit back, then I'd do that and find someone else more reputable.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone!!!

I actually just went to a local post in the forum from the other day. Someone was actually looking for a dobe in the exact same area NY/PA/NJ/CT area.

Unfortunately the deposit is non refundable but after speaking to a handful of other breeders I can confidently say that my experience talking with them was very different than the conversations I had with the original breeder. Rest assured I've moved on and taken the deposit as a 300 dollar lesson to do better research before investing. I look forward to getting back on the horse and setting out to find a great companion.

I'm still on the search so if anyone could help me with anything that hasnt already been said that would be great. I'm looking for a companion who will live a long healthy life and have good temperament. Aside from that my only small preference would be a black and tan coat.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped me find a second home here on the forum you guys are amazing!
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I think you made a good decision to walk away—the purchase price (or deposit, in this case) actually pales beside the expenses of owning a dobe for life, and a dobe from a poor breeder is likely to have more than their share of health and temperament problems.

I would encourage you to get pet insurance for your puppy once you have her. They are not likely to have pre-existing conditions when they are young, and that way you can insure them for the whole kit and kaboodle.
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I've been talking with some people recently about breeders in that region because I have a friend in Maine who is also currently looking.

Here are some good breeders we've been discussing:

In New York --
Niklby (currently has a litter on the ground, I believe)
Raindance

In Pennsylvania --
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Denmar
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I would be wary of Denmar due to longevity issues for now. She still hasn't fixed that and is now claiming her original foundation bitch didn't exist. She'll always have Triadel in the lines, regardless of what she says on Facebook.

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I think you made the right choice, i would still try to get the deposit back from him though. When I start doing my research for a puppy i saw his posting on AKC Market place and reached out to him. When I talked to him, he said he had 5 liters coming or something like that. I then started researching more online and found DT, which im very grateful to have found postings about him here.
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Merab is a Russian import himself. His dogs mostly have good well bred pedigrees, but his ideas of dog breeding are not quite the same as most reputable Doberman breeders.

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I would be wary of Denmar due to longevity issues for now. She still hasn't fixed that and is now claiming her original foundation bitch didn't exist. She'll always have Triadel in the lines, regardless of what she says on Facebook.

Don't forget SharJet.
One of my local friends has a SharJet bitch and I LOVE her temperament. She's a great, great dog. And Sharon's had pretty good longevity in her lines that I've seen. I've met a few other dogs bred by her and really liked them as well.


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One of my local friends has a SharJet bitch and I LOVE her temperament. She's a great, great dog. And Sharon's had pretty good longevity in her lines that I've seen. I've met a few other dogs bred by her and really liked them as well.
I know a bunch of folks with her dogs, and all of them are fantastic and a bit snarky - exactly the sort of Dobe i adore. Sharon's also a pretty great person.

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Give Linda Ramsey a call. She is based out of Hewitt, NJ soon to relocate to West Virginia. She's been breeding Dobermans for over 20 years. You can find her on Facebook or google Ramsey's Dobiegang. Very reputable...
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