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Hello again, I've done some further research and I think I've narrowed down some high quality breeders I would like to deal with when we pursue a puppy.

1) Raindance Dobes
2) Kettlecove Dobes
3) Marquis Dobes (not sure if she is even breeding?)
4) Magis Dobes

They all seem to be reputable breeders with the beautiful ear cropping I love. Am I missing anybody? We recently had to put down our Belgian Malinois and I know getting a quality Doberman puppy is a bit of a process, so would like to get the process rolling. We would like to take this dog everywhere so temperament is my #1 focus, my Malinois was aggressive so we had to manage her frequently.

We aren't in a rush either, we have a 2 1/2 year old daughter and we are expecting a boy come October 1st and to be honest, we could use a bit of time to grieve our beloved Zoey.

The OTHER issue I need to deal with is getting my wife on board with the Doberman breed as shes partial because they look scary, unfortunately none of these breeders are close by so it may be difficult to get her in front of a Doberman, especially doberman puppies

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It's likely you'll need to wait a few years before most reputable breeders would be willing to place a puppy with you—two very young kids may mean you will be unable to devote the needed time (and energy) into raising a dobe puppy.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with establishing a relationship and a track record with a doberman breeder of your choice.

I'm not much help here; I'm nowhere near your area, but good luck in your search.
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It's likely you'll need to wait a few years before most reputable breeders would be willing to place a puppy with you—two very young kids may mean you will be unable to devote the needed time (and energy) into raising a dobe puppy.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with establishing a relationship and a track record with a doberman breeder of your choice.

I'm not much help here; I'm nowhere near your area, but good luck in your search.
Thank you, if it helps my case at all, my wife is a stay at home mom and I will have the ability to bring the puppy to work with me if needed.

Also, did I post this in the ear cropping sub? Could someone move to doberman specific chat?

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I've moved your thread to breeding/breeders.

Starting your research now isn't a bad idea. Some breeders have long waiting lists.


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I agree that starting your search now is a good idea. Its likely that, even if you were to get on a wait list with a breeder today, you'd be waiting a year or longer anyway.

Is your wife reluctant about a Doberman just due to appearances? Or are there additional reasons she's not entirely convinced yet?

Its too bad the timing isn't great for getting out and meeting dogs and owners at clubs or shows. That would probably be the easiest way to address your wife's concerns.



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i would reccommend looking up the Pilgrim Doberman Pinscher club for activities to attend with your wife. Its a good way to introduce your wife to the breed while you are waiting to purchase your future puppy
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Once dog shows get started again, it is a good idea to go to some local shows to see the dogs and meet breeders and owners. Right now there are very few dog shows, and the few there are do not allow spectators.
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I agree that starting your search now is a good idea. Its likely that, even if you were to get on a wait list with a breeder today, you'd be waiting a year or longer anyway.

Is your wife reluctant about a Doberman just due to appearances? Or are there additional reasons she's not entirely convinced yet?

Its too bad the timing isn't great for getting out and meeting dogs and owners at clubs or shows. That would probably be the easiest way to address your wife's concerns.
Yes, with the ear crop, she thinks they look scary, but has never met one before. Its the typical breed stereotyping. Our Malinois was aggressive towards mostly everything besides our family, but we took her in as a 2 year old rescue and even though i trained the dog very well, I couldn't comfortably let her be around people/dogs so i understand her not wanting another aggressive breed. She likes dogs with floppy ears, with I could get a Doberman with natural ears, but I am not a fan of it nor would I want one without the crop.

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All those are DPCA breeders. I am a Pilgrim DPCA board member, right now we are trying to organize September specialty shows in the greater Boston area.

Marquis - Kelly has not bred a litter herself in a while, but she's a professional handler and evaluates litters so she knows of litters on the ground. She has handled my dogs for several years (including my Top 20 special from 2019) and is a personal friend.

Kettlecove, Raindance - both excellent breeders

Magis - that's my breeder, I have co-bred several litters with them. We are in the midst of updating health testing on one of my bitches to potentially breed her for the last time this fall.

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All those are DPCA breeders. I am a Pilgrim DPCA board member, right now we are trying to organize September specialty shows in the greater Boston area.

Marquis - Kelly has not bred a litter herself in a while, but she's a professional handler and evaluates litters so she knows of litters on the ground. She has handled my dogs for several years (including my Top 20 special from 2019) and is a personal friend.

Kettlecove, Raindance - both excellent breeders

Magis - that's my breeder, I have co-bred several litters with them. We are in the midst of updating health testing on one of my bitches to potentially breed her for the last time this fall.
Awesome, hopefully a show will pop up, my wife is due October 1st so hopefully before that lol. My Daughter LOVES dogs so it'd be great to get out and check some doggies out.

Magis was my first choice, but I think they are a little pricey. Then again I'm out of date on puppy prices but when I last checked (8 years ago) it was around $2500 which is about my limit right now.
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So the wife brought up Dobermans and I convinced her to go to a Doberman event which I HOPE will happen this fall. She started doing research and was basting me on how they are #4 on a most dangerous dog list and how she wants a dog our parent would be comfortable with. Does anyone have any good literature I can back the Doberman breed up with?

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I certainly don't want your wife to have misconceptions about the breed, and obviously I think they are wonderful dogs.

I think there are places you can share with her to help her understand they are great dogs.

But...I also think everyone should be comfortable with the dog they are getting. Not trying to be a downer, but I don't think it'll be a successful placement if your wife is hesitating about the breed. If she isn't 100% on board, the dog will sense it - they are really intuitive. I'd honestly urge you to consider that strongly...as much as you want a Doberman, it may not be a good fit if you have to get your wife to be a reluctant yes. You really want her to be enthusiastic.

Cutie and the Beast is one of the best at showing the beautiful relationships between a Doberman and "his" kid. Sadly, Buddha (the Doberman), passed away recently. He was a great breed ambassador and the photos shared of him and his kid, Siena, were incredibly heartwarming. Fewer were shared as she got older to protect privacy, but their Instagram is a tribute to Dobermans: https://www.instagram.com/cutieandthebeast/?hl=en

To address her "dangerous" dog list - a google search would turn up half a dozen lists with different dog breeds on it. This is exactly the problem that we constantly fight against when we stand with other breeds in fighting against breed-specific legislation. When it comes to identifying what is most likely to cause a dog to bite (which is what most "dangerous dog lists" are trying to accomplish), dog bites are typically two scenarios:

-first, they are often a child bitten in their home or the home of someone they know, by a dog known to them, because even good dogs bite when their signals are ignored (see this as an EXCELLENT resource on preventing dog bites to kids: Any Dog Can Bite. Here?s How You Can Prevent It | I'm Not a Monster)

-second, a bite that happens to a stranger out of the blue is often a dog that is chained or restrained in a yard and often an unaltered male (more than 70% of bites)

There are obviously other types of dog bites, but if that's what is concerning her when she's talking about "aggression"...

She may also have some PTSD from owning your last dog. And no judgement there. My first Doberman did not have a stable temperament, and it was very difficult. It was hard to let go of some of the behaviors I had learned from owning her, and it's really hard to own a dog like that.


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So the wife brought up Dobermans and I convinced her to go to a Doberman event which I HOPE will happen this fall. She started doing research and was basting me on how they are #4 on a most dangerous dog list and how she wants a dog our parent would be comfortable with. Does anyone have any good literature I can back the Doberman breed up with?

Welcome back to DT, Nicky. Sorry to hear about recent loss of your Zoey.

FYI- I frequently send people that popular video clip of a Malinois puppy in the X-Pin tearing up cardboard boxes, to illustrate a high energy dog!

Up until the Covid-19 shutdown, both of our Dobes, Spock and Eva, now both 10 y/o, were active Pet Partners Therapy Dogs. They visited our local elementary school weekly in the Read With Me program, to help 3rd-5th grade students needing reading improvement. While at school both Dobes regularly interacted with large classes of Pre-K through 5th grade students in hallways and never had any issues meeting all ages of kids.

Here's Spock & Eva's Therapy Dog thread on DT that you have your wife peruse:
https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...ing-buddy.html

Both Dobes also made regular group therapy dog visits to local colleges during final exams, city Senior Center monthly and my Crossfit gym weekly to visit and "workout" with PTSD veterans.

We decided, late in their life, due to my work away from home, to put their Doberman's extreme need for love and attention to good use!

If you wish, I'll PM you a link to my "Doberman Pinscher as Therapy Dog" presentation (9m) on YouTube, to help sway your wife's opinion toward the breed.


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I certainly don't want your wife to have misconceptions about the breed, and obviously I think they are wonderful dogs.

I think there are places you can share with her to help her understand they are great dogs.

But...I also think everyone should be comfortable with the dog they are getting. Not trying to be a downer, but I don't think it'll be a successful placement if your wife is hesitating about the breed. If she isn't 100% on board, the dog will sense it - they are really intuitive. I'd honestly urge you to consider that strongly...as much as you want a Doberman, it may not be a good fit if you have to get your wife to be a reluctant yes. You really want her to be enthusiastic.

Cutie and the Beast is one of the best at showing the beautiful relationships between a Doberman and "his" kid. Sadly, Buddha (the Doberman), passed away recently. He was a great breed ambassador and the photos shared of him and his kid, Siena, were incredibly heartwarming. Fewer were shared as she got older to protect privacy, but their Instagram is a tribute to Dobermans: https://www.instagram.com/cutieandthebeast/?hl=en

To address her "dangerous" dog list - a google search would turn up half a dozen lists with different dog breeds on it. This is exactly the problem that we constantly fight against when we stand with other breeds in fighting against breed-specific legislation. When it comes to identifying what is most likely to cause a dog to bite (which is what most "dangerous dog lists" are trying to accomplish), dog bites are typically two scenarios:

-first, they are often a child bitten in their home or the home of someone they know, by a dog known to them, because even good dogs bite when their signals are ignored (see this as an EXCELLENT resource on preventing dog bites to kids: Any Dog Can Bite. Here?s How You Can Prevent It | I'm Not a Monster)

-second, a bite that happens to a stranger out of the blue is often a dog that is chained or restrained in a yard and often an unaltered male (more than 70% of bites)

There are obviously other types of dog bites, but if that's what is concerning her when she's talking about "aggression"...

She may also have some PTSD from owning your last dog. And no judgement there. My first Doberman did not have a stable temperament, and it was very difficult. It was hard to let go of some of the behaviors I had learned from owning her, and it's really hard to own a dog like that.

I've followed Cutie and the Beast for quite some time now, terrible wobblers got him I actually sent her the link to the page this morning after reading your reply
I agree with you 100%, I dont want to force it but I know she is just judging a book by its cover so trying to get her to have an open minded discussion, I really hope a Doberman event takes place in our area soon, would be great to get her in front of the breed and show her what they really are.
I truly believe she has ptsd from our Malinois, she put quite a bit of stress on us due to her aggressiveness that neither of us want to see again. Of course today when we were watching a cartoon with our daughter, a doberman appeared as a bad guy... sigh lol
I'm not shy to putting in work with the dog, I spent countless hours of training with our Malinois and just couldnt get that aggressiveness out of her. Even so, she was an angel with our daughter.
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Welcome back to DT, Nicky. Sorry to hear about recent loss of your Zoey.

FYI- I frequently send people that popular video clip of a Malinois puppy in the X-Pin tearing up cardboard boxes, to illustrate a high energy dog!

Up until the Covid-19 shutdown, both of our Dobes, Spock and Eva, now both 10 y/o, were active Pet Partners Therapy Dogs. They visited our local elementary school weekly in the Read With Me program, to help 3rd-5th grade students needing reading improvement. While at school both Dobes regularly interacted with large classes of Pre-K through 5th grade students in hallways and never had any issues meeting all ages of kids.

Here's Spock & Eva's Therapy Dog thread on DT that you have your wife peruse:
https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...ing-buddy.html

Both Dobes also made regular group therapy dog visits to local colleges during final exams, city Senior Center monthly and my Crossfit gym weekly to visit and "workout" with PTSD veterans.

We decided, late in their life, due to my work away from home, to put their Doberman's extreme need for love and attention to good use!

If you wish, I'll PM you a link to my "Doberman Pinscher as Therapy Dog" presentation (9m) on YouTube, to help sway your wife's opinion toward the breed.
I would love to see the presentation, thank you!

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Princess- PB WGSD 3/15/01-9/21/11
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I've followed Cutie and the Beast for quite some time now, terrible wobblers got him I actually sent her the link to the page this morning after reading your reply
I agree with you 100%, I dont want to force it but I know she is just judging a book by its cover so trying to get her to have an open minded discussion, I really hope a Doberman event takes place in our area soon, would be great to get her in front of the breed and show her what they really are.
I truly believe she has ptsd from our Malinois, she put quite a bit of stress on us due to her aggressiveness that neither of us want to see again. Of course today when we were watching a cartoon with our daughter, a doberman appeared as a bad guy... sigh lol
I'm not shy to putting in work with the dog, I spent countless hours of training with our Malinois and just couldnt get that aggressiveness out of her. Even so, she was an angel with our daughter.
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I totally get that...living with a dog that is aggressive is incredibly stressful. It really does leave some scars that take time to heal.

That photo of your Mal and your daughter is adorable.

You know, there are some great breeders out there that raise their Dobermans with kids. I think it would be very worthwhile to seek them out. I know, for example, that Ashley Ring at Ashtrick has posted lots of pictures of her puppies being raised with kids (she breeds quite a bit with Sharon Duval at Kettle Cove). That's just one example, I know there are others. But maybe specifically finding a breeder that has kids would be reassuring for your wife. She can see how the dogs live with kids, and a breeder that places their dogs with families with kids would also be able to give some referrals, so you can talk with others that have dogs from that breeder.


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