Hi all! I need help deciding on a breeder. I know I’m not going with bells strawberry dobermans even though they seem to be popular in Indiana. I know Windsong seems reputable but I’m not sure how much they cost. Has anyone heard of IB Doberman kennel in Noblesville, IN? He would be a companion, so I wouldn’t necessarily need a show quality pup. I’m hoping to not spend $3,000 on a pup, but closer to $1800-2300. Any feedback is greatly appreciated! I’ve searched google and Facebook but keep finding the same few breeders for Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Kentucky, and Ohio.
Thanks I couldn’t think of another name! Lol I hope so I’ll take any recommendations possible cause all of the places I found are starting to look the same! 😩
The DPCA breeder referral is a good starting place, although not all good breeders are on there, and, of course, not all the breeders on there are going to meet everyone's standards.
I'd suggest starting to "network" with some of the good breeders in the surrounding states. In Michigan you have breeders like Melrae (https://dpca.org/breed/breeder-referral/). I know she had a litter fairly recently, so she may not have puppies but she's always been very easy to talk to and might be able to connect you with some other good breeders. You also have Gorrmae (Home). Andria Carpenter is in Michigan and, I believe, co-breeds with Melissa of Melrae (she is Andella Dobermans). There are quite a few others in Michigan - Lyndobe (Blank), Bolero (https://bolerodobes.com/).
Edited to add...pricing can vary, but keep in mind that the initial purchase price of a puppy is kind of just a drop in the bucket. It's well worth paying up front for a well bred puppy, because you get great breeder support, and you get a puppy that has been carefully bred for good temperament, and the best chance at health and long life. I highly recommend all Doberman owners get pet insurance. I'll never have another Doberman without it. It does cost breeders a lot to breed a nice litter. The amount they spend to do it right pays off for the owners. The few hundred dollars you save initially if you cut corners on a less well bred puppy could well come back to haunt you if you have a pup that ends up with a poor temperament or a lot of health issues. I've been there, and I won't risk it again.
There is a lot of truth in that. All my dogs have been free, as in no money exchanged hands when I acquired them (either picked up as strays or privately rehomed), but I've spent a small to moderate-sized fortune in supplies, vet bills, training bills, and entry fees over the years.
Second - 3 grand is a out the going price for a good dobie puppy from a top of the line breeder .
LOL I really need to proof read my stuff - still lol
I think I was going to say : Around here - for a well breed pup - 3 grand is the going rate - Remember - from a good breeder you get ear crop , shots , then they take care of them till there 10 weeks old . I really don't know how they do it for 3,000 .
As far as some breeders - right off the top of my head - Silhouette Dobermans ( Ohio ) Briarwood Dobermans ( Ohio ) btw there are a few posters on here that has Briarwood Dobers , JagerDobermans ( KY ) I know that they don't have any puppies at this time and have no idea of there breeding intensions in the near future . There is also Protocol Dobermans - ( Ohio )
BTW - Have you had Dobermans before ? If not , you might want to pull up one of the breeders sites and check out the puppy agreement - everyone that I know of requires a fenced in area and there is other requirements .
Yes you did VZ- LOL then after reading MC's post - I thought - Did ken read that right ? Did VZ have a type-O , you two !!!!!! Quit it ! You know I'm not right and now your messing with me - LOL I bet you two were PMing back and forth and said -Lets mess with Ken ! :grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2:
Relax all of you--it was Cambria who moved back to Texas. Not Briarwood.
dobebug
For the OP
Even though you don't need a Doberman who was show bred--always remember that the puppies from a litter normally consist (if you are a breeder with well bred stock and are lucky) of one or two legitimately show quality puppies and the remainder of an average litter from a better than average breeder then has several carefully bred, from fully tested healthy dogs and bitches who have good temperaments and health--and to the novice eye are no different than the picks of the litter for purposes of conformtion showing.
And that's the reason you see recommendations that you go to the show breeders for your pets.
So good luck--if I were doing this I'd at least check with Windsong on the price and maybe just start a savings account for the purpose of biting the bullet and getting a more expensive puppy who had fewer problems ongoing than saving a few bucks up front.
And yes, Cambria is now in Texas. I checked their website. Somehow it's fitting that a breeder with a dog named Cactus Cash should be in Texas.:2smile:
LOL! I've been in this too long--they were in Texas when Cactus Cash was whelped but if you go back far enough Jim White had a pet Doberman and he was in Washington state as I recall.
I’m sorry! I jumped off for one day and came back to posts and trying to catch!! Thank you so much everyone for your help!! I haven’t heard of the Michigan or Illinois breeders so I have some homework to do. This will be my first Doberman but I’ve researched the breed and know it’ll fit into my lifestyle and get along with my dog. I’m moving into my first house which is why I’m finally able to get one but I probably won’t be able to have one until next summer just so I can unpack and get settled in.
Poofs - I have not heard of them much - I did look at there website a year ago - They are evidently into horses big time , There just is not much on there dogs though - I have a call into a Dober friend of mine in Greenfield - I will ask him , he has Show dogs and will give me the up and up .
Has anyone heard of Carson dobermans in Indiana? She just received a new male Russian import that looks amazing, but I want to make sure she’s a good breeder. She states she does all the necessary health testing and provides papers but can never be sure nowadays!
What is it about that breeder that appeals to you?
Did you look into any of the breeders that were suggested to you earlier in this thread?
Other breeders in your area that are worth contacting are:
Tiffany Neal at Starline Kennels
Ann Oppie at Garjan Dobermans
Laurel Vail at HQ Dobermans
I would contact Jana Dupre at Promise/Olympia Dobermans - I know she just posted about a litter born yesterday from someone that she knows
Ali Doughty at Old Drum Dobermans
While none are directly in Indiana, are all a reasonable drive. They may not have litters planned immediately, but good breeders network. They can absolutely refer you to someone.
I liked how her males and females looked. The puppies from previous litters looked healthy and big. She states she does health testing.
I was asking because the Admin of dobermans of Indiana recommenced her and she’s been somewhat active on that site. I currently have a long list of breeders. I contacted several but haven’t heard back from anyone yet. I just wanted options in case my top choices don’t fall through.
Is this person a member of the local chapter club, or just a FB admin? If the latter, I wouldn't rely on them.
I would ask this breeder WHAT health testing she's doing, as well as what she's doing to prove her dogs should be bred. "Champion bloodlines" is usually a BYB term to make their dogs seem better than they are.
As I said, the more concerning problems in Dobermans are all invisible - you can't "see" them by simply looking at photos.
I'm concerned about breeders who talk about their dogs being "very large" as something advantageous, and a selling point. The Doberman is a medium breed, and should be moderate in all things. Oversized is NOT a good thing - we don't want dogs that are too tall, with chests that are too large, etc. That's not our breed standard, and people that try to sell you on how "big" their dogs are don't really understand what is correct for our breed. An oversized Doberman is going to be prone to joint problems, ACL tears, and won't be agile, quick and able to do their job correctly. We have a breed standard for a good reason. The American and European standard are nearly identical. European Dobermans aren't significantly bigger than American Dobermans, and good Euro breeders know that. They breed correct dogs.
Saw this morning shared on Facebook that Linda Duff of Briarwood Dobermans has passed away. Sorry to read this news. I know she's been a long time breeder and someone that has been well known for many year. VZ, particularly sorry for your loss...
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