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European Breeder in Midwest

Hi all,

I'm new to Doberman talk. I've had Doberman's in the past, but am currently without a dog after my female was put down at 10 y.o due to cancer.

I have actively been seeking a European Dobermann breeder in the Midwest (I live in St. Louis), but have had no luck. I have contacted the Missouri Doberman Club on facebook, as well as the Schutzhund Club of Missouri with no recommendations coming from them. I am seeking a companion dog. I will not be competing in anything, nor will I be breeding. Before anyone asks, yes I want a European Dobermann. I prefer the temperament and the drive. Yes, I also like the thicker look of the dog, and yes, I am aware that some American Dobies are thicker boned. I would prefer a Midwest breeder due to my location, so I can build a relationship, but I am willing to drive long long distances for the right breeder.

Do you know anyone? I am in the mist of moving to a house with ample backyard space, and I work from home. The dog, with myself, will be going to obedience classes as well as be socialized with dogs, cats, loud noises, vehicles, etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Are you looking for European "show" lines, or working? They don't have the same look, necessarily. A lot of the more reputable Euro breeders in the US are breeding the working lines - I'm not sure if they will be the look you are wanting. It's a bit harder to find reputable show line breeders.

That said, I'd start with the United Doberman Club - they have a website and a FB page. They would be up to date on the Euro breeders in the US.

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I have gone through the UDC, and it wasn't very up to date. Some showing their last litter in 2012 etc. I prefer the working lines look, but it will really come down to the individual temperament of the dog.

I am really just looking for some good Euro breeders that people have had good luck with. Test for health, good socialization, quality of living, etc.
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Welcome to the forum.

You might have better luck messaging breeders via Facebook. It seems like, since social media has really taken off, even the breeders who used to do a fairly good job at maintaining their websites have kind of turned their online focus to Facebook.

For instance, I know Masaya Dobermans in Arkansas just had a litter in February. And I think they had a litter last summer, too. Both breedings and the subsequent litters were announced on their facebook page but I don't know if they listed them on their website.

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Yes... What brw1982 said^^^^

The breeder of our last 3 boys is very active, yet her website is literally circa 2013. I'm pretty sure that was her last update. However her Facebook page is updated and commented on regularly.

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You want a companion dog but prefer the drive of European dogs?
You want a thicker dog but prefer the look of working lines? The working line dogs tend to have a more wiry look and are smaller on average than even American lines. Trying to understand your logic.

Also it's not because the UDC site isn't up to date for litters that it's out of date for breeders. The breeder list was recently updated as a matter of fact with a few removals and additions.

As far as the midwest goes, there's Julie Stade in Kansas, BJF Dobermans who mixes euro and American lines.
There's Protea Kennel in Nebraska (Helia Driscoll) who does the same thing of mixing Euro and American
There's Benchmark Dobermans (Savannah Langdon) in Ohio who mostly focuses on hardcore working lines, and occasionally breeds to American showlines. BENCHMARK DOBERMANNS - Home
Apexe Dobermans (Ashley Stursa) all European working lines
Nordquelle in Minnesota, not sure they have a website but they're on facebook.
Tammy Rush's Talane Dobermans is in KS as well index.html and has at least two litters planned.
There's Chotofvodka in Ohio - Jackie Spratt. I don't know anything about her program but she's on the UDC directory.
J Bar S Dobermans (Suzan Shipp) is in Missouri I believe this is also a blending of lines Doberman Pinscher Breeder Work or show puppies J Bar S AKC Dobermans in Missouri
Kansa Dobermans, in Kansas blend European and American lines Kansa Quality Dobermans they are also members on this forum.
Krieghund in Michigan also, but not sure if they've got any litters planned for the near future

I'm sure there are others whom I'm not thinking of right this instant.

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I know of a few litters being planned in the midwest for this Winter, but nothing available currently.

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