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Question European Doberman Breeders

Hi everyone. We are looking to get a European Doberman for a family pet. Searching through the DCPA there are over a dozen breeders but several have either no working website or have not returned calls / emails after a few weeks and multiple attempts. The few conversations I have had range from the need to inspect my house to "yeah yeah yeah $3000 you want puppy no - yes" We were hoping to get a puppy before autumn but I would rather wait to get a healthy pup. IM supposed to be asking a question in here so here it is:
Can anyone recommend a breeder for Europeans in the NJ area. We are in North Jersey but I will travel a few hours if it means we get a healthy puppy.
Oh we would prefer a black/rust male

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Hi Jason, Welcome to DT! How are you reaching out to breeders? A great breeder producing well bred puppies is going to ask a lot of questions because they want to be sure you're a great home. Sell yourself! Explain your living situation, dog and doberman experience, what you will do with the puppy/dog during the day, what kind of training and socialization you plan to do, where the puppy will live, what it will eat etc.

$3000 is kind of the going rate for a well bred puppy. It's more like $3-4000 around here. That is because this is a very expensive breed to breed correctly and most breeders kind of just break even when they sell them for this price.


Why European? If you want a dog with a pretty head and a lot of bone you can find that in an American show bred dog. Since you're in NJ I would suggest Raindance Dobermans. Susan breeds dogs that would fit that bill and she breeds frequently. She is also a member here on DT, who happens to not really be active anymore.

I know given your area there probably aren't going to be a lot of dog shows coming up, but going to an AKC dog show where there's a good size entry in dobermans is a great way to connect with a breeder or at least someone who can put you on the right path.

Good luck!
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Welcome to DT.

Is there a particular reason you are specifically interested in a European line dog?


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Wow that was fast!

To answer your question, we like the "thicker" look of the European line.

I do explain about our house , yard (6ft fence) living area , recreations etc. to those who ask me (the few I have been able to talk with). The main reason I reached out out here is because the DCPA we breeders list seems a bit out of date and we were hoping to get a puppy before autumn.

If it helps answer some questions we are thinking of crate training (unless our trainer suggests differently), we have a 130x75 fenced in yard , my wife is home during the day and will walk him several times a day. We plan on using a professional trainer and go to our local dog park for socialization, we also have 2 children (our youngest is 8). He is definitely going to live in the house. As far as food goes we will be seeking recommendations from our vet and trainer and the breeder. (though we need to be mindful of nut allergens)

We already chose a veterinarian, a trainer and a name. We (think <---KEYWORD) we are all set , just need a new family member!
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We like the "thicker" look of the European line.

The main reason I reached out out here is because the DCPA we breeders list seems a bit out of date and we were hoping to get a puppy before autumn.

If it helps answer some questions we are thinking of crate training (unless our trainer suggests differently), we have a 130x75 fenced in yard , my wife is home during the day and will walk him several times a day. We plan on using a professional trainer and go to our local dog park for socialization, we also have 2 children (our youngest is 8). He is definitely going to live in the house. As far as food goes we will be seeking recommendations from our vet and trainer and the breeder. (though we need to be mindful of nut allergens)

We already chose a veterinarian, a trainer and a name. We (think <---KEYWORD) we are all set , just need a new family member!


AH HA someone fixed my not seeing my posts, hence the double post !! Thank you moderator!

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A new poster's first few posts need to be approved by a moderator, I believe.

If by "thicker" you mean "having more bone", then there are lots of North American dogs that have just as much bone.

Yes on a good trainer, but they are going to be training you, not the dog.

The typical male Doberman is not a good dog park candidate. They are prone to same sex aggression as adults, and even if they aren't, adult Dobes tend to be dog-selective. Also, the average dog park is full of rude dogs with clueless owners.
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It is not uncommon for a show bred male to be 90-95 pounds, I'd say that's pretty normal these days. I don't know how "thick" you're looking to go, but that's a big dog! As I mentioned before you can follow the lead I gave you to Raindance dobermans... and go to shows! Only a portion of good breeders are really on the DPCA site and that could be for a number of reasons and you will only find these other breeders by being proactive in going to shows and events and by contacting DPCA chapter clubs.

As for Dog parks- I would really not encourage you to use that as a place for socialization or exercise. As mentioned, dobes are not a dog park breed as they can be very dog selective and early impressions can make a big impact later in life.
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I have a picture of my dog doing weaves at a trial. For some reason half of my pictures are sideways. It should be the first one in the collection. He was 27 1/2" and 94#. And he had bone. American dobes can have bone.
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Just to make it easier for you to find, Jason--here's the link to the pic I believe VZ is talking about:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/gallery...mg_0782__1.jpg
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You can also try the UDC breeder referral list. There are more euro breeders there.

Agreed with what others have said. Many have thought my bitch was a euro because she's so heavy boned. I also bred to a heavy boned male and many think my puppies are euro. There's bone in American bred dogs, you just have to know where to look.

I know Raindance is near you and she had americans with nice bone and good temperaments. Sharjet is in NJ. And there are a few others as well. Good luck
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Socialization has nothing to do with people petting your dog or playing with other dogs at a dog park. It's about exposing your dog to all the sights and sounds of the world. People, dogs, noises, traffic, etc. To quote my vet "A dog park is a vet's best friend."
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