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I am new to the forum and really appreciate the wealth of knowledge and the willingness of everyone to share. We are long time dog owners, but new to the dobermann. We are currently looking for a Euro/Working Dobermann and came across Smack Dab and Feverhaus. Both seem extremely reputable and take great pride in their dogs. Anyone, have recent feedback on these breeders.

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Smack-Dab doesn't breed Euro Dobermans. She is a reputable breeder, but those are all American lines. I see her dogs a lot in agility listings, so they seem to do very well there.

Feverhaus is also a reputable breeder, and those are European lines. They compete in IPG and other sports.
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What are your plans for the dog? Any reason you want working lines? It can be a lot of dog... even a pet.
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I met Ms. Fay several years ago when I was doing agility. She had a lovely facility and she competed successfully in several different venues. Geri Richmond has had Smack-Dab dogs. She is/was the person who sends out the "atta boys" from the DPCA. I am personally unfamiliar with Feverhaus.
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Thanks for the replies. First off I love the look of the Euro Dobermann and have always been a fan of blockish looking dogs. We currently have two Akitas (14 1/2 years and 4) and unfortunately just had to put our yellow lab down this week due to cancer. Now that my kids are older I would like to get into really training the dog and enter into some competitions. No more kids sports to coach , so I figure it would be fun to coach a Dobermann. We are not interested in breeding the dog. After seeing how smart/family oriented the dobermann is, my wife fell in love and also wants our next dog to be a Dobermann. It drives her nuts our older Akita is so aloof.

We are in California and one breeder West Coast Doberman I read some really bad stuff.

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Plans for puppy

Sorry if this is a double post but I couldn't find my original reply. Up until recently we were a three dog family (Akita 14 1/2 years, Yellow Lab 10 years, Akita 4 years) and unfortunately we had to put the lab down due to cancer. My wife wanted another dog as affectionate as the lab, because the aloofness of our Akita's drives her nuts. She wants a 100lb lap dog. LOL I have always loved the Dobermann but was talked out of it, until now. My co-worker grew up with Doberman's and I have shown my wife how smart and family oriented they are which is exactly what we want. My kids are older so no more coaching soccer. I figured it would be fun coaching a Dobermann. I love the look of blockish style dogs and the Euro Dobe fits to a T. So in short first and foremost we want a family oriented dog that's not afraid to work because I plan on taking him to training and learn with him so I can perhaps get into some competitions.

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John,

A working bred dog is unlikely to be a 100 pound lap dog. First off, 100 pounds is quite large for a doberman male, usually they are 80-95 pounds, bitches 60-75 and true working line dogs are often on the smaller end vs. a show bred dog. A working line dog can be a lot to live with and may need a huge commitment from you for him or her to be a "lap dog" at the end of the day. To be honest I think an American show line would be your best bet for your first doberman. I would encourage you to go to some local AKC dog shows once things get up and going again and you can meet well bred dogs in the flesh, and possibly get you some leads on breeders as well. I think you will be surprised at how they look too. Good luck.
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There are some excellent breeders on the west coast--showline breeders who have owners of their breeding who have proven that the showline dogs can do anything you might have the time and energy to teach them and be great family dogs as well.

I'll echo Greenkouki and suggest going to some of the bigger dog shows (when they start having dog shows again) to meet some of the breeders and owners of the Dobermans--and you should check out the Dobes working in performance stuff as well.

Check out the Doberman Pinscher Club of America for breeders in Washington, Oregon and Northern California--there are several who would meet your expectations in a Doberman. Although most of mine through the years wouldn't make to 100 pounds they'd all be delighted to be lap dogs (personally I discourage it because they have bony elbows and knees) but--you know--to each his own.

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Okay, sorry the 100lbs threw everyone off. I know for the most part Doberman's do not get that heavy. Our 2 female akitas come in at 100 lbs so I was jokingly referring to another dog their weight. Really do appreciate the feedback and will keep researching.
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A properly bred european will not be "blockish" either. They have a standard they must adhere to as well and the stereotypical look you are thinking of, is not really correct. I think you might prefer the look of certain east european showlines but even those shouldn't fall into extremes of incorrectness, unfortunately fashion and judges have dictated breeding there more than the written standard for some time.
A working line dog might be a lot of work for you but fortunately there are plenty of American and European showlines that have the drive and willingness to perform in a variety of venues where you can dabble until you fall in love with a given sport. You might find a working line to be very demanding especially after owning Akitas. Though there are working oriented breeders who are mindful of an off-switch, some dogs require a whole lot more of "input" to switch off than others.
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