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Good Morning Doberman Talk World!

In doing my research and reading all the information & misinformation out there. I have narrowed down by search for a breeder to the below five. Does anyone have any experience with them? I sourced them all from AKC website and also researched their testing methods from their websites. I have not reached out - as I do not want offend anyone by speaking to too many breeders. Would prefer to narrow down to 2 or 3 before I take time up in their lives.

By my accounts these are some of the best of the best...and guessing any would be great. Would love to hear your experience with any of them.

Breeder 1: Hollywood Dobermans

Breeder 2: Quartet Dobermans

Breeder 3: Pamelot Dobermans

Breeder 4: Sheilan Dobermans

Breeder 5: Holloway Dobermans

We are looking for a non show / pet companion Male. That being said, the health is key for us. Making sure the testing is their in the Sire and Damn and something we will also continue up on with our future puppy.

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What is your timeline? Some of those breeders breed often and some only every couple of years. That may be a deciding factor for you to consider. There are more breeders in Florida and Georgia you may want to consider. DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral

I would reach out to the DPC of Florida...

Really the best thing you could do would be to go to the upcoming cluster of shows in December in Orlando that surround the royal canin AKC National. There is a DPCA regional specialty show for Dobermans as well as several all breed shows with large entries for dobermans. There will be a ton of doberman owners, breeders, and handlers in attendance, both from your area and from all over the country. These are the people to talk to! You will get to see a lot of the top dobermans showing in the best of breed competition while you're there. Here is the info for the DPCA specialty show but there are all breed shows that whole week and weekend at the same location if you can't make the dobe specialty. http://pdf.infodog.com/prm/5306/prm5306.pdf
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Hi. Great Advice. 100% going to go to those shows. Its in my backyard - would be a sin to miss it. I also cannot wait!

Our timeline is between now and 6 months.
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Fantastic!

If you need more info on the other shows, go to the AKC's site and use the event search tool and then narrow it down by all breed conformation events, and click florida on the little map, and they will all pull up! About 10 days or a week before the shows you can go to this link below and find the show judging program which will tell you what time and what ring dobermans show in that particular day. https://m.infodog.com/show/judgingprograms.htm
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Going to shows is great. I would also reach out to a few and see what they're next breeding will be and look into the pedigrees. Many people show, many people show and breed, few of those people do the proper health testing and even fewer of those put together healthy pedigrees. I am not familiar with all of those breeders but Shelian is on my VERY short list of breeders I would want a puppy from.
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What is your timeline? Some of those breeders breed often and some only every couple of years. That may be a deciding factor for you to consider. There are more breeders in Florida and Georgia you may want to consider. DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral

I would reach out to the DPC of Florida...

Really the best thing you could do would be to go to the upcoming cluster of shows in December in Orlando that surround the royal canin AKC National. There is a DPCA regional specialty show for Dobermans as well as several all breed shows with large entries for dobermans. There will be a ton of doberman owners, breeders, and handlers in attendance, both from your area and from all over the country. These are the people to talk to! You will get to see a lot of the top dobermans showing in the best of breed competition while you're there. Here is the info for the DPCA specialty show but there are all breed shows that whole week and weekend at the same location if you can't make the dobe specialty. http://pdf.infodog.com/prm/5306/prm5306.pdf
Sorry to get sidetracked here for a second - But Greenie - Are you taking Hugo South for the shows ?? And now , back to your regular programming
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Sorry to get sidetracked here for a second - But Greenie - Are you taking Hugo South for the shows ?? And now , back to your regular programming
Hey Ken, He would not be competitive there. A few of his sisters might be and I'm not sure if they will be there or not. I may get him back out in a year or so for his grand championship, but it would still be at smaller shows around here.
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Good Morning Doberman Talk World!

In doing my research and reading all the information & misinformation out there. I have narrowed down by search for a breeder to the below five. Does anyone have any experience with them? I sourced them all from AKC website and also researched their testing methods from their websites. I have not reached out - as I do not want offend anyone by speaking to too many breeders. Would prefer to narrow down to 2 or 3 before I take time up in their lives.

By my accounts these are some of the best of the best...and guessing any would be great. Would love to hear your experience with any of them.

Breeder 1: Hollywood Dobermans

Breeder 2: Quartet Dobermans

Breeder 3: Pamelot Dobermans

Breeder 4: Sheilan Dobermans

Breeder 5: Holloway Dobermans

We are looking for a non show / pet companion Male. That being said, the health is key for us. Making sure the testing is their in the Sire and Damn and something we will also continue up on with our future puppy.

Thank You DT World!

I can tell you that your timeframe is pretty short. I know that Shelian Doberman (who is a member here) has a long waiting list, and I don't think you'll be able to get a puppy from her in that time frame. If you aren't flexible on waiting, you probably can cross her off your list, although I like Shelly's dogs and would certainly consider her.

I know a few people with Holly Woods Dobermans who are very happy with their dogs.

I know a few people with Pamelot dogs who are very happy with their dogs.

I agree with GK - meeting dogs in person is pretty invaluable...it is really helpful to interact with dogs from the breeders you are considering to see their temperaments up close and personal, to see if they are what you're looking for.

Your timeline may be too short for any breeder, to be honest, but you might get lucky.


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If you find any breeder who has puppies on the ground, or has a litter "due any day", and they aren't already all spoken for, then chances are those are not great breeders. Responsible breeding means not only earning conformation accolades, but also challenging the dogs to accomplish things that show their drive, work ethic, intelligence and focus. So you will find a lot of people have their Dobes certified in agility, barn hunt, obedience, therapy/Canine Good Citizen, etc. Some even have obtained herding certification! There's very little a Dobe can't do.

But also, people who breed responsibly are going to be very careful about choosing a complementary mate, knowing the lineage of both dogs, and have thorough health testing done. Since it has become so tragically common for Dobes to die young, often people will wait until their dogs are at least 3 years old, and keep an eye on the health of the parents, even grandparents, to get a good sense of the longevity in the lines.

Because these people are truly working to revitalize the breed, they don't breed often (some only breed their female 2 or 3 times, period) - they want to see how their pairings work out, and usually will only place their puppies with people who are experienced, who they know or come with excellent references. Many avid Doberman lovers will wait 2 or 3 years just to have a puppy from a specific breeder, or line.

Have you ever considered rescue? Dobe rescuers are an incredible lot - they spend a lot of time with the rescued dogs, evaluate their temperament, socialize them, and look for very stable and loving homes to adopt them into. If you are new to the breed, you might consider adopting (these dogs can range from puppies who are dumped by people who had no idea how to raise a dog, to strays, to old dogs needing hospice love but were given up by people who didn't want to love an old dog). You have some great rescues in Florida. It's worth considering.
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I think all those breeders would be fine - there are other small time breeders that would also be good. Go to some shows - buy the catalog and mark the dogs that you liked..... which may not be the same as the one who win BTW. Talk to people (Doberman people are not always the easiest to talk to but there are usually one or two people who will be willing to spend time talking to you). Come back hear and ask more questions after you have seen dogs and talked to people.

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