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Question Working Dobe Breeder?

I had a Doberman years ago and I am finally in a place where I can have another dog (own my own home, have time and resources, etc.). The male dobe I had in the past was a larger, working-type Dobe. He was about 29" at the shoulder, wide-bodied, and 90 lbs when in pet condition. He was a joy to work with and I would like to have a similar dog again. Looking for breeders within a couple of states from me, mostly I'm finding the more refined show-type dogs. They are lovely of course, but I would prefer the more stout type. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'll be looking to adopt early next year, so I have time to find the right breeder and get a deposit down on an upcoming litter.

I'm located in Northeastern Arkansas, so I would prefer dogs within a 6-8 hour drive. That includes eastern Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, Mississippi, and northern Louisana and Texas. Any help would be appreciated!
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The "working bred" dogs I see are more refined and than the show bred dogs I see. The doberman is not supposed to be wide bodied (especially in the front) or else they will not have proper single track movement. If you are looking for a dog primarily as a pet but with a lot of bone and substance I would consider a show bred dog. It is common to see mature adult show males that are 90-100 pounds and proper height at the withers.
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If you are looking for working lines only for looks, I'd discourage you, only because I don't think that's a great reason to pursue that. Additionally, 29 inches is over standard, and working line breeders wouldn't be striving to breed a dog that tall.

However, if you want working lines because of other traits, I would contact Julie Stade at BJF Dobermans as my first contact - she breeds great dogs, true to the Doberman standard.
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I don't really have anything to add to this conversation but I just want to say

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I know Jana Dupre lives near you and her dogs def. have bone but are likely not over standard.

I am hopefully breeding next year, I live in Colorado. The male I'm looking to breed too has VERY nice bone and my bitch does as well. My bitch does protection work but the puppies won't hopefully be over standard since both parents aren't. I don't doubt that the male weighs between 93-97lbs, my female weighs in around 74lbs which is on the bigger side for a well conditioned female who is on the smaller side of height.

As others mentioned, working dogs don't tend to have bone, it kind of goes against the whole idea of working, they tend to be smaller, more refined and agile. I work my dogs in protection and agility and they are great but I know the limitations as they won't likely be any top winning dogs due to their size.

I have done A LOT of research! I too like bone and substance and I'm a fan of a nice looking head as well. You can find that, it's not difficult. What's VERY, nearly impossible, to find is health, longevity and temperament that follows it.

Good luck in your search.
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I think you might have a little bit of confusion as to what working dog is. There isn't really a "working type" per se, and generally dogs from true working lines aren't being bred for looks, the vast majority of them tend to be smaller and less substantial than their show bred counterparts. This is especially true in European lines. American lines don't really have what I would consider true working lines outside of maybe certain latin american countries. Rather US and Canadian breeders will have showlines who work.

What are you planning to do with your dog? You said he was a joy to work with, what kind of work do you mean by that? Sport? Real life work? Active pet/just training for the enjoyment of it? Because I can make several recommendations if what you're seeking is bone and substance but I really need to get an idea on your temperament/character profile and point you in the right direction.
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