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Dobie Pup in Summer 2020

Hello All,

I have to admit I feel a little bad posting such a general question in the forum, but I feel this community is very helpful.

I am looking for a male dobie puppy in the Summer of 2020. I have a wife, three kids (13,11,8) and a 18 month old Aussie. I am experienced with high energy / intelligent dogs and am ready for the 'challenges' associated with the dobie breed. We are a very active family, typically taking our current dog on several miles of runs a week, at least one mountain bike ride, and a hike. Our Aussie is very friendly and will not have any issues with a little brother.

I am looking for a 'pet' dobie, will not be competing, showing, or plan on doing any show/sport with the dog. I do expect it to be loyal to the family, and responsibly protective of the wife and kids while I am away for work.

So far, I have researched two breeders, one in CO where I live (Rocky Mountain Dobermans) and one in Florida (Charismatic Dobermans) on a recommendation and have found that both are not 'recommended' for a variety of reasons. For the price, and the time investment I'd be willing to travel anywhere in the continental United States for the right dog. My budget isn't unlimited, but I do understand that you get what you pay for. So I open it to the forum, what breeders are nationally known and respected?

FWIW, I am not open to a rescue as I have rescued three dogs in the past, two of which ended miserably.

Thank you for your time. I look forward to your advice and suggestions.
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Welcome to the forum, and so great that you are doing your research!

There are plenty of "pets" in every litter of Dobermans. The first thing I would recommend to you is to get in touch with the DPCA chapter club in your area - they are often a great resource to connect you to breeders. The Colorado chapter club is here: The Doberman Pinscher Club of the Rocky Mountain Area

Since you have a really good timeline, you'll have time to talk with them, and hopefully they can steer you towards some shows in your area where you can meet Dobermans and their breeders or owners. That's a great way to find some dogs that you really like in terms of temperament and drive. I find that's a really good way to figure out what breeders or "lines" you might like, that you think might fit with your family and your needs.

Another thing I would recommend is to join this group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/323279287742250/ It's the Doberman Pinscher Breeder Listings group. You can either post there, or just watch the listings. It's a group for people to post litters they are planning or that are available that follow the DPCA code of ethics. You may want to post what you're looking for and people will make some recommendations. You'll still want to do your due diligence, and be cautious if people send private recommendations (as sometimes people sneak through the cracks and are in the group and NOT ethical breeders, or don't know how to make quality recommendations). But generally the moderators are good about the public postings and there are some great recommendations in there that you'll get.

Since you're open to traveling I think you'll have a lot of options, and that's great!

I will make one more recommendation, and that's to read a couple of articles on buying a puppy/evaluating breeders that I personally find really helpful:

https://talkdoglogic.wordpress.com/2...sible-breeder/

https://dpca.org/BreedEd/buying-a-doberman-pinscher/
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Of all the breeds that people try to combine with Dobermans I think the very easiest are Aussies--I've had Dobes since my first in 1959 and in 1993 decided to try a different breed and show in Obedience instead of Conformation.

My friends still laugh about that. The Aussie was wonderful--outgoing, friendly, liked other dogs and eventually got the job of puppy raiser/nurse to a series of Dobermans--he loved his Dobemans and his Dobermans loved him.

I can think of a couple of dozen breeders whose Dobes I would love to have from around the country--and before you start looking seriously I'd read and reread the information on choosing a breeder and buying a puppy that MeadowCat was kind enough to post links to.

And if you gave a general part of the country where you are it'd be easier to give you specific names of breeders that I would be talking to.

From the Pacific Northwest--and have gotten great dogs from at least one top breeder in the country who happens to be in the Northwest.

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Bug... The OP lives in Colorado

"So far, I have researched two breeders, one in CO where I live"

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Hi and Welcome,

You were given great advice from above. Locally I don't know of anyone planning a litter next year... except for me. Gallant and Ciden maybe having a litter but I don't get to talk to them too much. My female is yet to come into heat, I think it's coming soon, so depending on when her next heat falls she could be having a late spring or early fall litter. My kennel name is Cardinal Dobermans, you can find me on Facebook.


I would encourage you to try to come out the weekend of our Doberman Specialty in early Sept. Most of the breeders will be there and you'll be able to meet people and see who you might click with. We also go out to dinner one night and you could come out. That's a great way to see almost everyone in a relaxed environment as we can get a little stressed running the shows and cheering for dogs.

One question I have for you, is your Aussie a male or a female? I personally wouldn't sell a male puppy to someone that already has a male because Same Sex Aggression is just too common in Dobermans and it could lead to a disaster.

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Just wanted to add that I'm VERY glad you walked away from Rocky Mountain. I have screenshots where she knowingly bred dogs with DCM. She has also shown her lack of class on multiple occasions.
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Just wanted to add that I'm VERY glad you walked away from Rocky Mountain. I have screenshots where she knowingly bred dogs with DCM. She has also shown her lack of class on multiple occasions.
When I was researching various breeders, I had come across them and talking with them, even for only five minutes, was not a good experience. She was very rude and tried to avoid my questions in regards to health
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Oh Heck.. Im' just going to toss out the name of the breeder of our last 3 dogs, whom I am sure will be the breeder of our next. (I am in new puppy mode). By and large, her dogs are handsome with nice temperaments and pretty healthy.

The breeder is Foxfire and the owner is Michelle Santana. She is located in Sunny Valley/Wolf Creek in Southern Oregon.

Her is her website: Foxfire Dobermans - Breeder-Owner of AKC Top Producing Doberman Pinschers

Here is her Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/FoxfireDobermans/

The bitch top right on her facebook page (Jewelia) is my youngest's dam.

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BTW... I definitely agree with what others have said: Do your research before approaching a breeder. I love your timeframe! Too many people just want to jump right in.

So... Stick around and continue to ask questions.

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Thank you everyone. Yes I am in Colorado and would love to stay closer to home, but I am willing to travel for the right dog. My Aussie is a female. I'll certainly do my best to make it to the event listed above in Greeley.

I can't seem to get the 'talkdoglogic' link to work. Can someone repost an updated site please?

Thank you for the help guys!
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The talkdoglogic link seems to work for me:
https://talkdoglogic.wordpress.com/2...sible-breeder/

Here's their home page:
https://talkdoglogic.wordpress.com/
You can try to go down to the bottom of the page and search for "responsible breeder" and see if that gets you there. For me, that gives me a bunch of titles for the blog entries she's written--click on one of them and take a look.

Extra info: I don't know if it makes a difference; I use a MacBook Air and use Chrome.

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Thank you everyone. Yes I am in Colorado and would love to stay closer to home, but I am willing to travel for the right dog. My Aussie is a female. I'll certainly do my best to make it to the event listed above in Greeley.

I can't seem to get the 'talkdoglogic' link to work. Can someone repost an updated site please?

Thank you for the help guys!
I did copy/paste that particular talkdoglogic post into a thread on DT- you can read it here: https://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...e-breeder.html


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