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Well...back to the same sex problem.
As you can see looking at the previous responses, the answers to "Will two females get along?" are...maybe, probably, perhaps, it depends and you never know.
Two dobes in a mixed set is really about the only combination that you can be fairly certain will get along (and of course, even there, there are exceptions). Add in one or more "duplicates" and you just don't know. And unfortunately, you may get two who get along just fine--until they don't. So you can almost never be entirely sure your dogs are OK together. Dobes are not bred to get along in a pack the way some hunting dogs are, so how they do with other dogs has not been a breeding priority.
You have gotten some honest truthful remarks about the wisdom of breeding your own dogs though. There is a lot to take into account. Ideally, with every breeding, even with dogs who are top-notch really-should-be-bred-to-improve-the-breed champion types, you want to pick a mate whose characteristics fit with yours, and improve on your dog's weak spots. You want to pick a stud who brings something to the table the bitch is not so good at (every dog has some flaws). The likelihood that your own two dogs will be the perfect breeding match is very low.
But two things about what you've said just seem impractical to me...
One, that you are prepared to keep all of the puppies if necessary, in fact don't really even plan to sell them. That's just plain unrealistic. You'd already have three adults...do you really think you'd be able to keep, oh, I don't know, 8 more?! Littermate syndrome for sure, in addition to (finger counting here) 11 fully mature male and female dobes trucking around your property who need to all get along?? Wow.
Another real concern, though, is the cost. Dobes are not a healthy breed, as you've found out with your girl. Can you really manage that kind of vet bills for, let's just say, 6 out of those 11 dogs? I dropped $25,000 on my last female in one year...she obstructed three times--twice with peritonitis--needed emergency surgery and intensive care several times and had a tendon problem that required on-going physical therapy and a custom made brace. My other dog at the time was treated his entire life for allergies (shots, meds), bloated 8 times total (maybe IBD related in his case) and had DCM. We lived at the vet's offices (both GP and specialists), and singlehandedly put everyone's kids through college, I am convinced.
I can't imagine what I would have done if i had had several dogs with that kind of vet bills. We were stretched with only two. And I can't imagine what kind of heartbreak I would have had to go through if we had gotten to the point where we really COULDN'T have afforded to care for our dogs' treatable (but expensive) medical problems. Putting an animal to sleep because you really just CANNOT find the money to treat him, that no one else will take under their wings because of their health problems either...I shudder to think of it. And we got close to having that reality hit us in the face.
I'm glad you're researching and thinking through whether or not what you'd like to have is a realistic option for you; that's so much better than jumping in feet first and only then regretting your decision (because then what will you do?) And I hope you'll consider all of the advice you get, both what you want to hear, and what you'd rather not, when you figure out what options are reasonably doable for you.
Dobes are a fun breed...sometimes a headache and tough to manage, but always rewarding. It's fun to share stories too, both your "I'm so proud" moments and your "I want to kill the beast" ones. Stick around and contribute. We'd love to have you in the loop.
But really do give some thought to what folks have said here. I think dobes are wonderful, but where I am right now, I just can't have another. *sniff* Sometimes we can't just have everything we want. No one can figure out what another person's limits are--but outside advice based on lots of cumulative knowledge is not something to throw out the window.
No one here is trying to pick on you personally. We would say the same thing to anyone who came here with the questions and ideas you've shared. Just....don't rush in too fast and get in over your head.
Last edited by melbrod; 06-03-2019 at 06:29 PM.