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post #51 of 63 (permalink) Old 06-07-2019, 03:01 PM
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@ GR...

"I actually don't really want to be a breeder."

LOL Karen. I love you girl... But that is so much BS! You definitely want to be a breeder.

A breeder of healthy, happy, well-bred Dobermans. Helping the breed.

You took so much sh!t here, yet you persevered. Most of those A-holes are gone. People are so nice and helpful on DT these days!

Well WTF!

Best to you, GR, Mav and Kya..

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@ GR...

You took so much sh!t here, yet you persevered. Most of those A-holes are gone. People are so nice and helpful on DT these days!

John
Are you saying I'm an A-hole John???? If so you'd be correct. Of course most dobes are A-holes too so I guess that's why I get along with them so well lol.
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The main reason I posted in this sub forum was because from speaking with different breeders they have multiple females in the home so I wanted to know what experience they had with that. I don't get on this website often but Ive read every post
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You took so much sh!t here, yet you persevered. Most of those A-holes are gone. People are so nice and helpful on DT these days!

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I'm still here

And I agree; this is one of the best threads I've seen on DT in a while. So much info and experience weighing in.
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Just to let you know......I've been called worse by better people. LOL
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And I agree; this is one of the best threads I've seen on DT in a while. So much info and experience weighing in.
Yeah TN... You may have disagreed with GR (Karen), but you were just expressing you opinion, which is what forums like these are all about.

The folks that I was referring to were rude and demeaning to people they disagreed with, especially newcomers just looking for answers.

That was never you

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Yeah TN... You may have disagreed with GR (Karen), but you were just expressing you opinion, which is what forums like these are all about.

The folks that I was referring to were rude and demeaning to people they disagreed with, especially newcomers just looking for answers.

That was never you

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99% of the time I don't weigh in on threads because I've only owned a Doberman for 5 years and even though I've put my heart and soul into this girl, I'm a baby compared to a lot of the folks on here who have been around this breed for most of their lives. So when it comes to matters like breeding, health, training, feeding etc, I read the replies and try to learn more from the experts on here because a Doberman will be all I'll have till I get too old to have one LOL.

Having said that, I do feel that sometimes you have to be blunt with folks instead of pampering them, especially the ones who come in with their minds already made up yet asking for advice anyway and then arguing about it instead of realizing that they're receiving words of wisdom from people who've had this breed longer than the OP has been alive



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post #58 of 63 (permalink) Old 06-09-2019, 11:26 PM
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99% of the time I don't weigh in on threads because I've only owned a Doberman for 5 years and even though I've put my heart and soul into this girl, I'm a baby compared to a lot of the folks on here who have been around this breed for most of their lives. So when it comes to matters like breeding, health, training, feeding etc, I read the replies and try to learn more from the experts on here because a Doberman will be all I'll have till I get too old to have one LOL.

Having said that, I do feel that sometimes you have to be blunt with folks instead of pampering them, especially the ones who come in with their minds already made up yet asking for advice anyway and then arguing about it instead of realizing that they're receiving words of wisdom from people who've had this breed longer than the OP has been alive
Well said... I frequently have to hold back, which is why I mostly respond to upbeat and fun conversations.

Still....

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Good morning all ! WOW - TN hit the nail on the head didn't he ? Interesting tread , to me - A Book of knowledge on here posting - I did read all the replies - and what I have picked up - Lots talking - Or I should say typing from the heart about our , there Dobers , personal accounts , real life experience .

That said - We have had different breed couples and 1 pair of Doberman females here on the farm - we had 2 pairs - of Doberman and Aussie's - one pair - both females and 1 pair a female Dober and a Male Aussie = like Mel had said - the mixed worked very well and talk about best friends right from the get go !

Then we had out first pair of Dobermans - both females in 2008 - Ali was born in 2007 but we did not get her till early Jan of 08 . Now you will all think I'm crazy here - But we hurt Kasia's feeling's bringing home a new pup - I think she thought we were replacing her - She would have nothing to do with Ali . Kasia even took all of her balls to a back bedroom - put them all in a pile - Ali was to NOT play with HER toys .

One day at the Vets - Doctor H said they would be best friends and it would help keep Kasia young - My friends - that took 2 years before it happened . And yes - they were the best of friends ! When Kasia would have a seizure , Ali would lay next to her and would not leave her side till Kasia got up , The day it was time for Kasia to go to the Bridge - Ali cried and cried - she sounded like a person crying .- So yes - our 2 got along great - never one moment they ever showed there teeth to one another , But we never , never left them together when we left and they were always supervised when we were here -- just like another posted and mentioned .

Now we have Ali and Mr. Business - I was very worried about this pair from the get go , We had never had a Male Dober before and I Knew that Mr. B would be more powerful than Ali - When we picked up Mr. B , I told Cindy about my concern - She said don't you worry about Ali - She will take care of herself ! Boy has she - lol Mr. B tested her - just playing - She then put him in his place - he would come crying to old dad : ))

They do play hard - lol Never any aggression to each other - they also are never left together when we are gone .

Now after our life story on our dogs - What I have found more than anything is that they are like people - they all have there own personality- we have been blessed with good temperament Dobers - nock on wood . Yet like people - some just don't or never will get along - What I'm saying is that even after all the years of having pairs - I can not guarantee that yours or our next Dobers will be great friends -

As other have said - a good temperament breed is a good start .

I will also add that I do have time for both of our Dobies - One perk of farming - We are around here a lot and devote the time and training to them and I will say - that is a full meal deal for me . Like I have said before - They not only require time , but they demand It - I have a very hard time seeing anybody to have devoted time to as many as 6 to 9 puppies at one time - with Vet trips and training - to me , that in it's self would be a full time job - lol

I always remember one of Meadowcats post to another asking questions one time - MC said when having two Dobers - it's not 2 times the work ! It's more - I would say like X's 3 or 4 sometimes - She nailed that one - and it's so true for what ever reason .

To me - It's more important to have and to share quality time with your Dobermans - the love and devotion they give in return is unmeasurable and very rewarding to both us and them .

You asked - and you received some great advise from some of the best of the best on this site - take that knowledge and use it to your advantage - you will not lose using it - but only learn and better your self down the road as a Dober owner .

Best of luck !

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This thread has gotten really weird.

Just my uninformed opinion:

-Bag the new bitch thing. You have 2 Dobes and you already have health issues with the first female.

-Forget the possible "breeding plans". Breeding the way you are describing I a terrible idea.This breed is already fraught with intrinsic heath issues. There is no need for a neophyte wannabe BYB to make things worse.

-Yeah perhaps I am coming of a bit harsh. It is really not my style. Yet, this has been my breed of choice for over 40 years Sometimes I just get pissed off

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Can I buy a male puppy from you that I can breed my bitch to?

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Such great advice throughout this thread! Iíve had many pairs of dogs at the same time, only ever had one pair that were tolerant enough of each other and RELAXED ENOUGH around each other to not require a human referee. Iíve always had opposite sex pairs and they can absolutely get into ferocious arguments, especially when the personality types are quite different. Iíve never had a Doberman that didnít have a very strong personality with very strong opinions.

I board dogs all the time and Boon is happy as a clam, smiling and wagging his tail at them, all through the consistently applied barrier of an ex pen. Although he has played happily with the two dogs Iíve fostered, and always interacted respectfully with (Queen) Bella when she was alive, when heís resting on his dog bed or in his crate, he does NOT want his space invaded and he will let any dog know his opinion on that, so I am vigilant to help maintain his space bubble.

Every Doberman Iíve had, except Bella, could not be left out loose with another dog while Iím gone. Not reactive, just very strong minded, short tempered, and not going to back down on a fight, if it were to occur. Bella would not have backed down but she knew how to keep discipline without ever starting a fight.

I have often wondered how breeders keep the peace around the household with 3-5 Dobermans. I have observed at the two breeders Iíve visited that it takes a whole lot of energy and devotion to rotation of space. Thatís what they get paid the big buck$ for, right?? NOT!! Seriously, just another reason to deeply admire anyone who has the courage to breed in a reputable way.


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