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So I have been doing a lot of research regarding breeders and feel that I have finally made a decision to contact Lynne at Lyndobe! I understand she has a great line of dobermans and she does a lot of genetic testing of her sires and dams. I had reached out to her about 2 years ago before I started nursing school and told her about my interest once I finished and here I am! One thing that really sticks out to me is that she does not do any vaccinations as the puppies go home at 7 weeks right after their ears are cropped. The first thing is she doesn't vaccinate and the second thing is that she releases the puppies before they're 8 weeks old. What are your opinions on this?
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Michigan has laws regarding selling pups below 8 weeks of age. But interestingly they don't apply to hobby kennels unless they are considered large scale operations. Not vaccinating the pups I don't know Michigan law in that regard I can't make the assumption they are breaking the law as they seem to be within the law in all other regards. This would be one of the red flags for me on this kennel because I wouldn't want to send out a puppy with absolutely no protection. As well as many states have laws against bringing in unvaccinated pups.

I personally would have a few questions I would want to ask as far as their breeding practices. I notice that they are breeding animals that were pointed but never finished. Some pups start off in the ring doing fairly well then structurally fall apart and never have the ability to finish. (This actually in of itself wasn't that uncommon of a practice years ago, some great dogs were produced out of unfinished dams)

Of more concern to me is all their breeding's they seem to be using the same male. This generally is be cause it is what they have on their own yard. The reason this is of concern to me is because when no animal is perfect, they all have flaws. Choosing who to breed to is supposed to be to improve your breeding's by finding a stud who off sets the deficiencies of your female. Not real likely that the same male that you have is going to fit that bill for every female you have. Now that isn't to say that it couldn't happen but that is why you need to ask questions. I will say I did go their site and have some nice looking animals. But I would still have questions and would be totally on how they answered.
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7 planned breedings in 2017 (I believe several didn't take and will be rebred the next heat cycle). 6 of which are the same sire, Uno (DOB 7/20/2015), who was well under 2 when he sired a litter whelped 1-18-17. Based on her own site, she whelps 5-7 litters per year with the vast majority being sired by her own stud dogs. Puppies being placed with no vaccinations freshly cropped at 7 weeks, untitled bitches, same stud dogs.... Too many red flags for me personally, but you need to decide what type of breeder you want to support with your consumer dollars. Do lots of research and decide what is acceptable to you. There are lots of breeders out there who do not breed this type of volume who are breeding strictly to improve the breed. Breeders who painstakingly research and choose stud dogs for their bitch once they have proven their worthiness via titles, preferably on both ends! Good luck on your search.
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Sometimes kennels change. Sometimes breeders' priorities change. I think it's always important to analyze what you're seeing right now, and not to base your decision on what a kennel used to be.
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Thank you for your responses! I received an email from the breeder today and there are a lot more red flags! I'll be doing now research to find another breeder!
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7 planned breedings in 2017 (I believe several didn't take and will be rebred the next heat cycle). 6 of which are the same sire, Uno (DOB 7/20/2015), who was well under 2 when he sired a litter whelped 1-18-17. Based on her own site, she whelps 5-7 litters per year with the vast majority being sired by her own stud dogs. Puppies being placed with no vaccinations freshly cropped at 7 weeks, untitled bitches, same stud dogs.... Too many red flags for me personally, but you need to decide what type of breeder you want to support with your consumer dollars. Do lots of research and decide what is acceptable to you. There are lots of breeders out there who do not breed this type of volume who are breeding strictly to improve the breed. Breeders who painstakingly research and choose stud dogs for their bitch once they have proven their worthiness via titles, preferably on both ends! Good luck on your search.

Thank you for your reply! Everything you mentioned is what I was concerned about! The dam that is due March 2018 was supposed to be due December 2017. I'm not sure if the breeding just didn't take or if she lost the liter. And it looks like that dam is only about 1.5 years old. She doesn't have the stud on site either. She said it was a one of her sires but he lived with someone else! After receiving her email I'm definitely going to be searching for someone else! Her website looks good on the outside but when you dig a little deeper I get the feeling that she's just in it for the profit! If you have any suggestion for a breeder in the Midwest I would greatly appreciate it! I live in Peoria, IL and I am willing to travel!
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If you have any suggestion for a breeder in the Midwest I would greatly appreciate it! I live in Peoria, IL and I am willing to travel!
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