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to nutter or not to nutter

I have a year and half Doberman. I do not want to stud him. My vet told me that I need to think about getting him nutterd saying that since he is a house dog it would make him calmer and I wouldn't have to worry about a nieborhood dog coming in heat and him getting out and maybe shot since we live in country. My argument is he is a good house dog and as he gets older I might want a pup from him. He is very smart and I know his pup could not replace him but it would be his blood line. Am I being selfish if I keep him intact? This is a hard decision and would like some feedback
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Please have him nutterd lol
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the word you're looking for is neutered.

and unless you intend to do quite a bit of health testing (the list is here: DPCA | The Doberman | Health it's not something most people will do, as testing is expensive) as well as prove the dog's worth via an impartial party in either the Conformation ring or a sport, there is no reason to breed him. you can get very good dogs from reputable, ethical breeders and you wouldn't be putting more dogs in rescues and shelters.

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I agree, 100 percent, with your vet. All Dobes are very smart, but it doesn't mean they all should have puppies. And if you live in an area where your dog could be shot, yes, I think it is selfish and irresponsible to endanger him by leaving him intact.
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Please don't make fun of those whose english is not their first language/dislexic/other issues. On my bad days my writing looks remarkably a lot like that, on good days my grammer is out to lunch due to medical issues. I reread eveything twice and still find issues.

OP, waiting until the growth plates close at 24 months is usually what is recommended, but ultimately the decision is what is best for you and your pup

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Sometimes males will get cancer in their testicles ( balls) if not neutered it happened to my male mix breed when I was young did not know to get him fixed.
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It depends on your situation and what you intend to do with your boy later. If you do something like agility or lure coursing then you will be better waiting until two years. However, if you think there's a risk of your dog being shot, then by all means neuter now, it's much much better to have him still alive (and/or no vet bills to remove bullets).
As to having a puppy by him, speaking from experience, despite being related they will almost definitely have different temperament/personality/energy levels, and you don't want to have a puppy and saddle it with the expectations of being like it's father (which you will almost certainly unconsciously do), I wouldn't do it. Also, as previously pointed out, you don't want to breed any dog without all of the appropriate health testing being done (which is damned expensive!!)
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All dobermans are special regardless the bloodline when it comes time to get another dobe find a good breeder , rescue or re-home. Living in the country setting i would Neuter , if a female shows up pet , stray or wild your fencing will be tested!
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Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought nutterd was cute. and no doubt what it meant
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Sorry if I offended anyone. I thought nutterd was cute. and no doubt what it meant
The proper context would be to send him to the Nutter.
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Another consideration is that it is not only female dogs in season you have to worry about in a rural situation, but also female coyotes and wolves, which can be very dangerous. An intact male is an estrogen detector, so even pregnant women can make him lose his brains!



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Sorry triciabri, I had a day yesterday and forgot my manners. Please chaulk it up to ornery shouldhavegonetobedsooner-ness. Or call a spade a spade, but that words not allowed here, I dont think.

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The proper context would be to send him to the Nutter.
Or ... neuter so he cannot nutter
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Go nuts!

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Please, stick to the topic:
"To nutter, or not to nutter, that is the question—"


Ten Doberman Rules
Poke Everything.
It's New? Bark At It.
Moves? Chase It.
Doesn't Move? Smell It.
Liquid? Spill and Dribble It.
Treat or Food? Wolf It Down.
Not Food? Chew It Slowly, Be Quiet & Hide From Human.
A Toy? Shred & Destroy It.
Stuffed? De-Stuff It.
Bites You Back? Wrestle It!
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I'm allergic to nuts, thus I shall nut my dog... LOL
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Listen.... Let's not all go...ball istic here


I've known no deeper love, than that from my beloved Doberman

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I sat in stand still traffic for hours and was in such a bad mood but Oh, this thread truly has made my morning! I may just reread it a few times!

I vote to have him nuder!
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10 times...The nutty nutter nuttered nuts
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10 times...The nutty nutter nuttered nuts

Trying to say this might make me testes.


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I would neuter a nutter.

I dont have to worry about my non-nutted neutereds. And wouldn't have it any other way.
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Neuter. Or Not? And When?

here is an article written by a veterinarian discussing pros and cons of the question.

Responsible ownership is required for intact animals to manage reproduction. Instead of getting a son or daughter of your current dog, when the time comes and you're looking for a youngster, look to a good litter and find the pup best suited to you and your lifestyle. Breeding dogs is not a casual endeavor, nor is it for the faint of heart.
I choose for many reasons to keep my dogs intact. I have not had an accidental litter in almost 40 years of owning dogs as an adult. I do not have males go crazy because a female down the road is in season, good, secure fencing is a must in my world, and if I lived in the country with the risk of a wandering pet being shot, I'd double down on the secure fencing<G> Do your research on the subject, there are a lot of studies out there presenting both pros and cons of your choice. Then you decide what is best for you and your boy. For a responsible owner, either choice is valid.
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