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Breeder Question in Indiana

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This is my first "question post" to the site, so I hope I am following all protocols! I have been researching to find a reputable, and quality breeder near where I live in Southwest Indiana. I have found a couple of breeders listed on the DPCA website list. These are the three that I am currently or have made limited contact with. However, from reading on this site I seen quite a few posts saying that I should check here with people have a lot of knowledge of most of these breeders. So my current options are possibly:


1. Masaya Dobermans (South Eastern Indiana)
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I have only researched their website, but seem to be a
reputable breeder. However, I am still checking into them
and thought you all might have some experience or knowledge
of their breeding reputation?

2. Windsong Dobermans (Northern Indiana)
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I have just begun research into this breeder. Any thoughts?

3. Diamond Dobermans (Northern Kentucky)
I have had some communication with Kathy, the breeder
here at Diamond. She, won't be having another litter for
about 2 years.

I am not opposed to breeders outside of this area, I just am not sure where and who would be the right one to choose yet.
I of course welcome any other recommendations or advice on finding the right breeder. I am looking to have a Dobie as a family companion/protection. I don't have the knowledge or experience to have my Dobie be in shows, etc, but am willing to learn more on that from here and talking with professionals. I am communicating with my local Kennel Club and trainers to get as much information as possible ensure that my new pup and I will get the proper classes and training. Thanks in advance for any information.
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Avoid Diamond at all costs.

https://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding...-shore-ky.html
Run don't walk away from this breeder...

Masaya is reputable (if memory serves)
Windsong is reputable as well


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When you say "protection", what do you mean?

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Windsong is great we almost went with a pup from them. The only reason we didn't is because of our time frame.

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Avoid Diamond at all costs.

https://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding...-shore-ky.html
Run don't walk away from this breeder...

Masaya is reputable (if memory serves)
Windsong is reputable as well

Thank you SieYa for the information and the thread to read up on. It was very informative.
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Of the three, I would gear towards Windsong. Cambria Dobermans is in Indiana as well, but I believe they're moving soon, if not already. There is also a wonderful training place here in Indy, and if you have any interesting in dock diving, a wonderful dock diving training facility as well!! If you're interested, it's called Alpha K-9s!



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When you say "protection", what do you mean?
Hello Jazi,

Thanks for the question. To clarify, I don't intend to put my pup into classes to train him/her to be aggressive or anything. I have been reading in books, and this site to know that the breed has natural family protection traits. That is all I meant by it. When I am able to find the right reputable breeder for us to bring a Dobie into my life, I plan to make sure we have as much information as possible. I am divorced now, with no children, but I do have a family member who lives with me as a roommate. I was impressed with the Dobie's natural instinct to help or protect it's loved ones. I have 3 young and beautiful nieces who spend quite a bit of time with me, and I know they are excited to be apart of our new Dobie's life, once we get to bring one home. I want to have a Dobie to be apart of our lives as apart of our family. I previously had 2 AKC Alaskan Malamutes as apart of our family for 14 years until they passed. It was a devastating loss to me and my entire family. One of the things I loved about that breed was also their natural instinct to look after their human family, but also their sweet & playful nature. My Mals were amazing and I miss them everyday. Having family who have had Dobermans in their life before, I saw how amazing they are. I am excited to be apart of a Dobermans life and this community! Thanks.
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Windsong is great we almost went with a pup from them. The only reason we didn't is because of our time frame.
Thank you bigfootlives for the recommendation. I have heard good things about Windsong.
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Of the three, I would gear towards Windsong. Cambria Dobermans is in Indiana as well, but I believe they're moving soon, if not already. There is also a wonderful training place here in Indy, and if you have any interesting in dock diving, a wonderful dock diving training facility as well!! If you're interested, it's called Alpha K-9s!
Thank you kmb! Windsong apparently has a good breeder reputation, so that's great news. I will also look into Cambria.

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Starlaine?

Has anyone heard of ***** STARLAINE DOBERMANS & WHIPPETS - HOME (Starlaine Dobermans) or know of their breeding? Someone told me about them, but also can not tell where they are located. Thanks!
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Starlaine is a member here, StarlaineK9 is the user name. I think they're in Washington, but don't quote me on that.
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I like Starlaine Dobermans. I just recently started seeing them on facebook more in a Doberman group. Looks like they have some nice dogs and do the necessary health testing.



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Elaine (Starlaine) has a nice litter coming soon. She health tests and titles her dogs. Can't go wrong there.


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I am in Northern Ky and I am willing to help you find a reputable breeder. Diamond Dobermans is not a good breeder.

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Lucky for you so many have responded with helpful breeders. As far as Bells at the time no one knew anything good or bad (always a bad sign now that iv had experience)
Im going to link to another post referring some local breeders. This was from 2014
https://www.dobermantalk.com/midwest-...breeder-2.html
Ill also quote kmbeach22, post #40
"I'm sure they sell plenty of both. Yes, they are in Indy. IMO, Windsong is the way to go if you want to stay local. Could be worth checking both out and speaking with both breeders to see what you think.
Bybs in Indiana - BUYER BEWARE:
Thunderstorm Dobermans
Bell's Strawberry Farm
Moyer Dobermans
Ragland Dobermans
Smith K9
Kaleidoscope Dobermans
And sadly many many many more. Many wind up in rescues and shelters here. Are you open to rescuing or adopting at all?"

Now for my add in. Do NOT buy from Bells.
I visited this place ahead of time (they were out of red females, but we wanted to look for future litters) and left knowing we should not buy from this ridiculous place.
When you have 10 females 1 male and 8 of the 10 are not what I would consider breeding appropriate (white patches, spermatic white hairs all over, very timid), Im not a breeder nor claim to know that’s just my opinion, that more fits a mill, not a breeder that loves the breed.
They all are outdoor unless they are trying to mate the two are then moved to a cretin area. They use a small shed for the dogs that at the time was filthy (normal excuses of not enough time to clean yada yada) At the end of the day we left disappointed and back to square one.

I later that week we were informed that one female had not been claimed. Against better thinking we went back to see her. She was so small, Ava is her name, she had already been injured. Her left elbow has a massive amount of scaring (size of a golf ball) They would/could not explain why and went though the “oh my gosh iv never seen that” to “she must have been bit by one of the older dogs” to “we found her in the shed (where they keep the pups) with this, out vet said she would be fine and had no physical issues” At that point I wanted to walk away, but we did not want to leave her. I felt it was at robbery to then charge us as much as they did. I think that’s the most frustrating part. Year later shes a stunning 45 pounds, has ongoing skittish issues, and has been the biggest learning experience of any dog in my entire life. ZERO breeder support along the way as far as medical history, behaviors, ect. Not that any of it would be the truth im sure. Personal trainers have helped, but its still ongoing. She is however our baby girl. So sweet and wants to do nothing but snuggle with you as she sleeps. As much of a pain as she can be we wouldn’t take back the choice of taking her, but had I known about the breeder I would have decided to not even contact them for the first visit.

Iv seen some updates from them. They breed avas mom and had pups available 10 months later. Also then tagging that their pups seems to range from full size to smaller Doberman.

So in short. Run away. Do not consider it and tell others you meet to also stay away.

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Thank you Fallen for your post. It was very informative, I appreciate all of the advice that everyone has given me.
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