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post #26 of 33 (permalink) Old 12-30-2016, 11:19 AM
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We also had a bad experience with Emily Tiscarenio at Von Riesig Kennels in Maricopa, AZ. We bought 2 doberman puppies from her, and loved that she was so responsive and organized. But when we got them home, they had ticks! We removed over 30 ticks from one puppy alone. We notified her so that she'd be aware that her kennel had a tick problem, but she didn't care. We had to treat both puppies, as well as our 2 dogs. Then we found out one of them had contracted giardia after being home for less than 2 weeks! Sure, she could have caught it anywhere, but neither of my dogs has it so she didn't catch it from us. We saved money on buying puppies without AKC papers (we don't need them, and were happy to save the money since we weren't planning to breed or show them), but it ended up costing us extra to treat so many dogs for giardia and ticks. I understand that things happen, but they should be more accountable for the health of their dogs.
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Also, one of the pups' tail had been docked wrong and wouldn't heal, so we'll have to have it surgically fixed
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Hello there. I had to reply because my Dobe came from this breeder. W're so happy with her that we're actually considering adopting another from there. She's healthy, gorgeous, happy, and has a wonderful temperament. The breeder has a 3-acre lot which I've visited a couple times, and Emily is definitely down to business but she's very friendly. Phantom pregnancies CAN happen on occasion, and the reason she gives 2 years is because no reputable breeder ALWAYS wants their mamas pregnant. It's unhealthy and a little cruel. It seems like she rotates her dogs, and more than likely you wouldn't have to wait that long, but it gets HER out of a legal bind if she says it'll take a year but then something happens to the mama. She has a vet that comes on site too, so that she doesn't have to always travel to another town to visit a reputable vet. Her dogs appear very healthy and happy, and she's fast to correspond. This is a farm/home business and she's often outside and/or has poor reception way out there so prefers to text because no one can just answer a phone all the time. We've had our Dobe gal for 7 months now. Both parents were on site, and our girl Kya is a 9 month old, 75lb ball of fun. I do recommend this breeder.
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Hello there. I had to reply because my Dobe came from this breeder. W're so happy with her that we're actually considering adopting another from there. She's healthy, gorgeous, happy, and has a wonderful temperament. The breeder has a 3-acre lot which I've visited a couple times, and Emily is definitely down to business but she's very friendly. Phantom pregnancies CAN happen on occasion, and the reason she gives 2 years is because no reputable breeder ALWAYS wants their mamas pregnant. It's unhealthy and a little cruel. It seems like she rotates her dogs, and more than likely you wouldn't have to wait that long, but it gets HER out of a legal bind if she says it'll take a year but then something happens to the mama. She has a vet that comes on site too, so that she doesn't have to always travel to another town to visit a reputable vet. Her dogs appear very healthy and happy, and she's fast to correspond. This is a farm/home business and she's often outside and/or has poor reception way out there so prefers to text because no one can just answer a phone all the time. We've had our Dobe gal for 7 months now. Both parents were on site, and our girl Kya is a 9 month old, 75lb ball of fun. I do recommend this breeder.

Welcome to dobermantalk!

I think it's important to differentiate between adopting and purchasing. Handing over money for a puppy to a breeder is purchasing. Adopting is when you adopt a dog in need from a rescue group or shelter.

You are correct that most good breeders do not breed on heat cycles back to back. Most breeders only breed a bitch a couple to 3 times at most.

I think, however, you are premature to recommend this breeder. Lack of health testing on the sire and dam aside, you mention your puppy is not even a year old. I would expect her to be healthy and energetic and if she wasn't it would be truly horrible! The thing though, is that the health problems that dobermans often experience come later in life when they are adults. The really big one, cardiomyopathy (DCM), which is known to kill an estimated 50% of dobermans, occurs when dogs are middle to later aged. It can cause sudden death or slowly progress into heart failure. Both are incredibly painful and sad to see consume the life of your otherwise healthy dog.

I really hope your puppy has a long and healthy life but know that there is more to it here than meets the eye. Evidence of thorough genetic testing to screen breeding dogs is of the utmost importance in evaluating whether a doberman breeder is reputable or not. To overlook that and just base a recommendation on whether the breeder has a nice house and yard and doesn't breed every heat cycle is not nearly enough.
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Thank you. I respect your reply but still stand by mine. I understand it's premature for me to give a review on a breeder based on a young dog, so if I think of it I'll reply again in 5 and 10 years.

I also think it's absurd to judge a breeder based on her preferred style of communication and the speed at which her girls can get pregnant.
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I also think it's absurd to judge a breeder based on her preferred style of communication and the speed at which her girls can get pregnant.
Actually, I'm judging more on the fact that, per their own website, they are breeding 16+ different breeds and mixes, you can pay with a credit card, and from the pictures, all the dogs and pups live in kennels. Also, they are planning at least five more litters this year. They are showing pictures of 13 "studs" spread across six different breeds. The pedigrees that they do show for some of the dogs aren't exactly impressive. They don't mention their bitches at all. They don't mention health testing. They very conveniently offer a two year hip warranty (I say convenient, because you can't get an official OFA rating until the dog is at least 24 months). They push the Nu-Vet pyramid scheme.

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Well, I do see where youíre coming from, but let me post this update.

I donít use NuVet but at 2.5 years, my dobe girl who came from there is still as healthy as ever. Sheís friendly and stable, and dozens of buyers whose dogs came from here stay in touch often on Facebook. They all look happy and healthy! We did end up getting a second dog from here, and heís pretty great, too. Most of her dogs run free or are compartmentalized in a certain area of her property, and only kept in kennels when itís necessary for safety or health reasons.

That being said, I do understand your hesitation; weíre always told to beware of breeders with multiple breeds and multiple sires, and who mix breeds. Thatís fine. Iíd be hesitant too, if I hadnít taken the time to come down here. I donít judge you, but Emilyís puppiesí owners are so thrilled with their companions. Many are healthy protection dogs. My girlís littermate is a therapy dog for disabled kids at a junior high school. Our girl loves anything with a heartbeat and weíre considering using her to help veterans, seniors, or the homeless. Sheís not papered and Iím sure there are practices here that you donít support. Thatís totally fine and understandable! If thatís the case, go elsewhere. But, I support Emily, Von Riesig, and her family who keeps in constant touch with its adopters. Donít discredit this breeder because she doesnít hit each bullet point on the breedersí creed. $700 for a Doberman is a fair price, but for it we got the most amazing companion we could have asked for. Other breeds here go for up to $2k+, because she doesnít specialize in dobes. Purebreds elsewhere are exploited and sold for several thousand dollars. Emily seems to just cover costs and a fair profit. We are and will remain a friend and advocate.
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Well, I do see where youíre coming from, but let me post this update.

I donít use NuVet but at 2.5 years, my dobe girl who came from there is still as healthy as ever. Sheís friendly and stable, and dozens of buyers whose dogs came from here stay in touch often on Facebook. They all look happy and healthy! We did end up getting a second dog from here, and heís pretty great, too. Most of her dogs run free or are compartmentalized in a certain area of her property, and only kept in kennels when itís necessary for safety or health reasons.

That being said, I do understand your hesitation; weíre always told to beware of breeders with multiple breeds and multiple sires, and who mix breeds. Thatís fine. Iíd be hesitant too, if I hadnít taken the time to come down here. I donít judge you, but Emilyís puppiesí owners are so thrilled with their companions. Many are healthy protection dogs. My girlís littermate is a therapy dog for disabled kids at a junior high school. Our girl loves anything with a heartbeat and weíre considering using her to help veterans, seniors, or the homeless. Sheís not papered and Iím sure there are practices here that you donít support. Thatís totally fine and understandable! If thatís the case, go elsewhere. But, I support Emily, Von Riesig, and her family who keeps in constant touch with its adopters. Donít discredit this breeder because she doesnít hit each bullet point on the breedersí creed. $700 for a Doberman is a fair price, but for it we got the most amazing companion we could have asked for. Other breeds here go for up to $2k+, because she doesnít specialize in dobes. Purebreds elsewhere are exploited and sold for several thousand dollars. Emily seems to just cover costs and a fair profit. We are and will remain a friend and advocate.

While It's great you're happy with your dogs and they are healthy in their young age, it does not mean this is a breeder who should be breeding dobermans. This is a breeder who is cutting corners and does not care about preserving or improving the breed. They are just breeding to sell pets to anyone with $700- which is VERY Low and a huge red flag. Here on DT we strive to support reputable breeders and steer prospective puppy buyers (not "adopters") to breeders and breeding programs that are doing good things in our breed.
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