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View Poll Results: What are best indicators of the future health of puppy from parents?
Genetic testing of parents 3 30.00%
Bloodlines 5 50.00%
Health of parents 2 20.00%
Physical exam of parents 0 0%
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Question Recommended Breeders in the Midwest

For all the right reasons, we are ready to bring another doberman into our family. Having had two that were plagued with illness, I am bent on doing the best I can this time around to avoid that heartache.

Reading some of these threads, I know there are experts contributing that can assist me in finding a breeder that is concerned with what is best for the breed, not their cookie jar savings account.

Missouri and Kansas ...Any recommendations?? From the breeder of high repute, I am interested in a healthy member to our family that will soak up obedience training.

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That poll is not terribly great because, really, you have to look at the whole picture.

---What if both parents pass all health tests with flying colors but multiple dogs down the pedigree have died at the ages of 4 and 5 from DCM?

---What if the parents look beautiful and show beautifully but their health tests come back as less-than-stellar?

---What if the lines are amazing and the health tests are great but the sire is way too nervous to be in the show ring for too long so he's brought in, shown, and then taken out because he doesn't have the correct temperament to handle it?

Just one of those factors isn't enough. You want health tested parents with good temperaments and titles, yes. But you want that to be backed up by lines that have been tested and proven as well. There is a breeder or two in those states, I think, that are considered reputable. I can't recall them off of the top of my head but I'm sure that somebody will chime in on that.

Your poll doesn't mention titles (working or conformation) but those are important too, even if your puppy is just going to be a house pet. Also, keep in mind that the best match for a breeder's bitch is rarely a dog that they have at home so, often times, they'll breed to somebody's dog whose out of area or even out of state. You might not get to meet both parents and that's okay.

Good luck!

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Patchworks got it just right!

What makes a reputable breeder is a breeder that's breeding for all those aspects as well as titling in a venue to prove their dogs are worthy of being bred via working ability or conforming to the standard of the dpca.

You want to see a healthy, titled pedigree for generations. Health tests (vwd, thyroid, lover, cerf eyes, ofa hips (sometimes elbows also), holters and echocardiograms, pdk4 gene test). The breeder should also be open to, and know (at least a majority) of the cause of death and age of death in the pedigree as well as know their dogs temperaments in and out to be able to provide you with the best fit in a puppy as well as be a great support system throughout the life of your pup. (puppy should also come, cropped/docked/started on vaccines)

The dpca breeder referral is a good start, it's a paid listing so verify the quality of each breeder.

Breeders I've heard mentioned before are Kansa in Kansas and Old drum in Missouri.
I don't know many great specifics on either so do your research

be careful, Missouri is a byb and greeder mine field!

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Contact Old Drum Dobermans in Harrisonville, MO. She is planning a breeding and does all health testing.

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