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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-10-2009, 07:40 AM Thread Starter
 
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JKK's Euro Dobermans ???

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: JKK's Euro Dobermans ???

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OK, so I know I got scammed by my breeder, but does anyone have any information in regards to Marcia and Henry Jasinski of JKK's Euro Dobermans. Does anyone know what has happened to them? I have lost all contact with them and do not have papers for my now 2 year old bitch. I have contacted the BBB in NY to which they(JKK) did not reply. I've written to the webspawner site where they are still trying to sell puppies.
I do have copies of the FCI export papers from both parents which I received in the last 8 months and have contacted AKC and the sire and dam were never registered with them. I'm trying to decide if I should persue legal action. My "contract" states that this must take place in NY although the Puppy was hand delivered to me in WI, and am waiting to hear back from a lawyer on that. I'm pretty sure by now that they have been sued by many? Any sucess with sueing breeders, Also, I'm thinking JKK has no money or has already disolved the business. Should I consider it a lesson learned and just continue to get the word out(which I will either way). Any information is appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: JKK's Euro Dobermans ???

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OK, so I know I got scammed by my breeder, but does anyone have any information in regards to Marcia and Henry Jasinski of JKK's Euro Dobermans. Does anyone know what has happened to them? I have lost all contact with them and do not have papers for my now 2 year old bitch. I have contacted the BBB in NY to which they(JKK) did not reply. I've written to the webspawner site where they are still trying to sell puppies.
I do have copies of the FCI export papers from both parents which I received in the last 8 months and have contacted AKC and the sire and dam were never registered with them. I'm trying to decide if I should persue legal action. My "contract" states that this must take place in NY although the Puppy was hand delivered to me in WI, and am waiting to hear back from a lawyer on that. I'm pretty sure by now that they have been sued by many? Any sucess with sueing breeders, Also, I'm thinking JKK has no money or has already disolved the business. Should I consider it a lesson learned and just continue to get the word out(which I will either way). Any information is appreciated.
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I almost bought a pup from them. Too expensive though. I liked there 1/2 US 1/2 Euro pups.
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Same here...was considering a pup there until I heard how expensive she was. She gave a whole 45 min speech on the phone about how great the euro's are and they have an instinctive "guard dog" in them the US Dobes lack. HMPH! Needless to say I opted to stay away. I could try to make contact via email and see if she is still taking emails or phone calls. Ill let you know if she responds.
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Just do a search on this site and on Dobermann Review for this greeder. There are numerous people that have paid deposits and never got their dog, others that never got papers on the dogs they received. There are also numerous cases that I know of including her own dogs that have bitten or attacked their owners or visitors and had to be PTS. Buyer Beware!!!

She is one of the worst breeders in the US nevermind the price, but of course there are several contenders for that title.

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Is this the breeder that is no longer breeding? Or is that some other Euro greeder?
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One can also do a search on DobmermanReview that turns up interesting articles.


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Same here...was considering a pup there until I heard how expensive she was. She gave a whole 45 min speech on the phone about how great the euro's are and they have an instinctive "guard dog" in them the US Dobes lack. HMPH! Needless to say I opted to stay away. I could try to make contact via email and see if she is still taking emails or phone calls. Ill let you know if she responds.

I once spoke with Marcia... Right at the beginning of my search about 7 months ago... Conniving woman tried to get me to put a $1000 deposit down within 15min of talking with her. I was just researching the breed. She promptly answered my e-mails, called me immediately, we spoke... She told me she would drive the puppy to NJ, (This was part of her screening) and stay overnight at a local hotel so she could come by one last morning to see how the night went... I mean it was almost crazy how withing 20 minutes of doing research I had a woman who would basically sell me one in 8 weeks time... Personally, I don't even think she had a pregnant bitch at the time and if I sent the a deposit I would have never seen a pup or the money.

I knew nothing at the time... and being the TYPE-A personality who needs to research everything before I make a move, save me heartache and cash I'm sure.
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There are multiple people trying to sue her , even down to mail fraud.
Most are from out of her home state. I spoke to her once about 2 years ago and she called me back 2 weeks later with an offer on two pups. One for
$1500 and one that she said had been returned to her because of health problems FOR FREE !!!! Claimed the owners panicked because the puppy
was throwing up and had bouts of diarrhea which she stated was quite normal for a puppy adjusting to a new home.

I just felt like she was sweetening the pot to try to get a deposit. Hard to get her off the phone when she gets going.

There was a couple from Ohio that paid for a puppy that did not exist that were looking for as many people as possible to sue her as a group.
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A current ZabaSearch shows:

MARCIA L JASINSKI {HENRY S JASINSKI}
Born Nov 1972
67 NEWMAN PL
BUFFALO, NY 14210
(716) 824-1412

Erie County, NY Tax Assessor confirms this as an active/valid address for this person.


Erie County, NY County Clerk shows Bank of American & GMAC liens filed against 1st & 2nd mortgages on 10/17/2008.

So I would say they are in deep doo-doo financially, and that generally means the obvious: the likelihood of recouperating any monies from them are slim/none.

I did notice that the complaints to the BBB on this business have an old address & phone number so you might start there with a current address.
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Hahahaha. Yes u should do a research on doberman review. Anyway the half euro and half american should be done by people that they really know what they are doing, breeders with huge experience. Half and half hahaha
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If you have the FCI papers the sire, and dam ,do not need to be akc registered. Go to the akc site look under Foreign Dog application. And you can use copies now, you don't need the originals. Was the dog brought from europe or bred here ? Is she the actual breeder or a broker? You should also look for help from the FCI I have dealt with them and never had a problem. In regards to a suit against a breeder your pretty much dreaming.
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I just found this thread. I live about 15 miles from her-Maybe I should pay her a visit?
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STILL Looking!

Did anyone ever locate this woman.....Marcia Jasinski? PLEASE respond.

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Did anyone ever locate this woman.....Marcia Jasinski? PLEASE respond.

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Here's the temporary webpage:

http://ourworld.cs.com/jkksdobermans...epage/dog.html

If you know where she is from PM me and I'll try and help you.
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I was scammed by these people as well. I did receive my black male from them about 4 1/2 years ago that I paid $3,500.00 for but could never get the papers. I do have some information but it is probably out of date.


Henry Jasisnki
67 Newman Place
Buffalo, New York 14210



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shes not in NY anymore shes in Florida. Shes on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/lynn.mclean.338/about
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They are using a different name again! I literally just bought a puppy from her not just two weeks ago, and she started throwing signs of being distant and not answering questions. When I noticed things were already getting weirder then from how they started, I started looking deeper, and found the Lynn McLean name, who is related to a Jake McLean, which is the name my supposed Breeder, Marcia and Chad Morrissette asked me to wire money to. She avoided a contract and couldn't send me a receipt.

I have started seeing these forums, and have now realized I've been scammed. I called her at 930 tonight to let her know that her actions were coming off as alarming, she wouldn't tell me who the vet was that was doing the shots or cropping, she wouldn't tell me when any of it was happening, she hasn't contacted the shipper that I hired after being asked to repeatedly, and has yet to return a phone call in a week! She says its because another one of her dogs had puppies (sent through text message). That was Wednesday, I think she could call back at this point.. I'm stopping payment on everything at this point. Marcia Morrissette and Chad Morrissette are the names they are going by now. Marcia, Lynn, MJ, Or whatever you call yourself now, let this be a warning.

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Very sorry you got scammed by these people. Do you have the puppy? At least you've found DT now and are sharing your story.
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during my search for a euro doberman. I found this siteQuality Dobermans - Home and http://legacyoftheimmortals.weebly.com/ after contacting them, they are the same people as above. they are going by marsha and chad morrissette After talking to them they wanted me to pay in full over the phone with a credit card right away. I told them I would like to pay in person as im only two hours away. she said it would be best to at least put the deposit down right away. Also she said to make sure i get a female as the male is not protective. she also recommend i stay away from the forums. I notice they have a few other sites under different names and that threw up the first red flag and the other redflag is the ? mark on papers.

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I am so glad I found this website this weekend. They are now in Sampson, Alabama. I was ready to buy a pup from them. When I asked for references, they quit responding. Started poking around. Not buying from them now! Thanks! My search continues......
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So, based on my research I contacted Von moellerhof.com. She had pups that were natural tails and ears. I wanted cropped and docked. She put me in touch with Lindsay at Dei Dohse Dobermanns. Flew my pup in the end of the week. She is absolutely wonderful! Great german lines and such a great pup!

I'll post a pic of my girl once I figure out how to do that.
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Well, thanks to this site, I didn't get scammed! Was talking to these folks until I found out about them. My antenna went up when I asked for references and all communication when dead.

Anyway, I found Von Moellerhof Dobermans and contacted Chris Rassmussen. I wanted a cropped and docked female. She was leaving her litter o-natural. Anyway, she put me in touch with Lindsay Davis at Dei Dohse Dobermanns and she has a 14 week old girl that was the perfect match. So thankful to Chris and her putting me in touch with Lindsay! I have a gorgeous german bread girl!
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I just bought a dog from them and I do have information. Feel free to email me at [email protected].

I didn't read all of these emails and all of this information. So far it is according to plan but some of these emails do make sense.
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I have been in contact with them. I have their names and numbers. Call me at 773 401-4040 if you have any questions.
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After speaking with a Marcia she claims she had superior top notch European Doberman puppies. Almost immediately after speaking with her, she bombarded me with emails and texts. She is a very persuasive and swift salesman!! My gut told me to stay away and hide from this psychopath. Glad I did after reading this Forum.
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