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Does any one have any experience with this breeder or their dogs? Would you recommend them as a breeder? Any problems with Von Willebrands in these dogs?
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Just looking at their website I'd not recommend them. They don't appear to do any health testing. No mention of vwd status, ofa, or cardio.

I'm sure someone can point you to a better breeder in your area.


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My Jossie is from that breeder. She has copper storage disease, which costs a lot to diagnose and treat. I would not get another dog from them, I don't consider them knowledgeable in this breed. They don't title and the health testing they do is very minimal.

Don't make the same mistake we made. Please do more research. The DPCA breeders list is a good starting point.

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Blix just a little info on the diseases that dobermans are prone to.

Doberman pinscher | Canine Inherited Disorders Database | University of Prince Edward Island

Vwd in Dobes is often the least of your worries.


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I am in Conn. and I require a breeder that will allow natural ears. I don't want to look too far away because I'd like to be able to go and visit the kennels and meet the owners and their dogs before I decide to purchase a puppy from them. I have called every breeder in CT and MA and there are only two that will allow us to keep the ears natural, BAH Dobermans in CT and Dobies by Dullea in MA. Any help from people who have actually dealt with either of these breeders before would be extremely helpful. Thanks
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Why are natural ears a requirement for you? It is part of the breed standard in the USA. I do know a breeder that may make an exception, for special situations/ exceptional homes.

I have dealt directly with BAH and posted my experience above.

Have you considered a rescue from DRU? They are at capacity right now and they will likely have natural ear dobes.
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If natural ears are an absolute deal breaker for you, then a rescue is your best bet. While there might be a working line breeder willing to leave the ears natural, in general, working line dogs tend to be "a lot of dog". Not saying that you won't get a good family pet from a working breeder, just that they do tend to have higher drive and energy.


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If natural ears are an absolute requirement you are going to have to either consider a rescue dog or expand your search significantly. Don't compromise on the quality of the dog in order to get the ears you want - you will really set yourself up for heartbreak in the health and/or temperament department. Ask yourself if natural ears are worth losing a dog at age 4 or 5 to disease, or dealing with a lifetime of unstable temperament? Rescue dogs are awesome (I know, I had the best rescue boy ever!). Or, there are a very, very small number of breeders who will leave natural ears for exceptional owners. You will have to be able to prove yourselves and you may have to travel much farther for a pup or even import from Canada. But please, don't buy from disreputable breeders.


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@Dobe_Mom I am interested in an update on your experience to understand if it changed and if this breeder took any action. Considering buying a pup from them but am alarmed by this so looking to see if the experience progressed?
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@Dobe_Mom I am interested in an update on your experience to understand if it changed and if this breeder took any action. Considering buying a pup from them but am alarmed by this so looking to see if the experience progressed?
You're wanting validation for making a bad decision based on seeing cute puppies. I'm certain her opinion hasn't changed and I'm sure the breeder hasn't improved because tigers don't change their stripes.

As she mentioned you'll have better luck with the DPCA breeder referral program or the UDC breeder referral program.
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GR, I don't see anywhere that Kw has bought a puppy yet???
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GR, I don't see anywhere that Kw has bought a puppy yet???
I would assume if she's considering buying from them it's because she's seen that they have cute puppies for sale and has her heart set on one. The entire thread and even the person she's questioning said stay away, yet she's still looking for further validation to purchase from them.
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@Dobe_Mom I am interested in an update on your experience to understand if it changed and if this breeder took any action. Considering buying a pup from them but am alarmed by this so looking to see if the experience progressed?
Here's the thing....lots and lots of breeders have cute puppies. And most puppies looks healthy and normal. It's hard to do research, to contact the reputable breeders, to be patient and to wait. It can be hard to understand why you should pay more, to buy from the types of breeders we recommend.

All I can do is share my own experience with you and tell you why I think you deserve a puppy from a good breeder. My first Doberman was from the type of breeder we warn people to stay away from. She had a good "sales" pitch. She said all the right things, and I just didn't know enough to understand the difference, nor did I even think to google the breeder name or do research. Plus, I paid almost as much for a puppy as I would have from a great breeder!

So I get my puppy (and really, there was no screening to make sure I was the right kind of home, or that the puppy's personality was matched to me...so many red flags, in hindsight)...and, immediately, I knew. But she was mine, and we did our best. But her temperament was NOT correct. She was shy and anxious and over time it just got worse. Genetics are powerful. I should have had a dog I could take anywhere, and be confident with. A dog that was safe with our friends, and kids, and that I could do all the things I wanted to do with. Instead, after six heartbreaking years of training, and working with a veterinary behaviorist, and doing everything in our power...we had to euthanize her. Because she was never happy or comfortable in her own skin. And she wasn't safe. And did that breeder ever take responsibility? No. Did she produce other dogs with temperament issues? Absolutely. Because I learned how to research, and I learned a LOT.

No one should have to roll the dice like that. You don't deserve to leave it up to chance. You deserve a great dog. You deserve a breeder that will be there for you; someone you can call in the middle of the night when you're in the ER with your puppy because they have diarrhea and you're worried. Someone you can call and say "is this normal?" Someone who will walk you through ear posting. Someone who will email you regularly and say "this is the update on your pup's grandparents' health."

That's why I buy from the breeders I buy from. I want to stack the deck in my favor. No one can guarantee a living creature will be healthy. They can't guarantee Mother Nature won't throw a wrench in things and produce a little shyness. But when you work with a great breeder, the odds are heavily in your favor. And if something DOES go wrong, they have your back.
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