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For those of you who think breeding is easy, and a way to make money, I thought it would be interesting to post from start to finish about breeding a bitch. It might be interesting to know what the breeder goes through too as we care for our female while the next 9 weeks pass.
As many of you know, we decided to breed Diva to ZZZZZaron. Diva started her heat cycle (bleeding) on July 11th. We started progesterone testing on that day. Progesterone testing varies, but for me working at a place with our own vet clinic, I get everything at cost. In this case, $30.00 per test. The initial test, I have a full blood panel run with it - liver, thyroid, brucella, etc., so the first one is $60.00. We tested every day until it started to rise last Wednesday and then also started the LH test kits. $40. each time and we did 3. Diva peaked which means that she started ovulating on Thursday. At this point, we are up to $360.00 and of course that does not include all of her health testing to make sure she is fit to breed, like VWD, cardio, hips & elbows, etc. Add another $940. for that - total $1300.00.
So on Friday, I head up to Oregon. I got a late start so ended up staying in Redding overnight. As I was leaving Redding the next morning, just getting on the on ramp for I-5, I hear a pop, and there goes my rear tire. I call our roadside assistance and they come out and put the spare on for me, which of course, has never been used and is much bigger than the remaining tires. The guy tells me that I need to go buy the correct size tire immediately. When I get to the tire place, I find out I need 4 new tires as they all need to match! I'm not even to the stud dog yet and so far, I have a hotel room, gas, and 4 new tires. Add another $1200.00!
Now I get to Oregon and have a hotel room there and need to pay the stud fee - $1500.00. We breed Diva starting Saturday and finish on Monday morning. Bonnie is kind enough to take me out to dinner one night and grill steaks for us the next so that cuts down on some of my food costs. BTW, Bonnie is the nicest lady on earth and I really enjoyed spending time with her and her fabulous dogs! She let me exercise all of mine at her place daily so they were not spending time in a cramped motel room.
With stud fee, 3 more tanks of gas to get home, food, and 2 more hotel nights, we spend $2200.00 while there.
Total for testing, the trip and breeding - $4700.00!

Now we wait 30 days and will do an ultrasound to see if the breeding took. I will add posts as we travel through the next (hopefully) 9 weeks to whelping. For now we are home safe and sound and will be waiting anxiously to see if this was all worth it!


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THIS IS A GREAT IDEA!!! How much do you estimate you spent on training and titling her?

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Great idea, this will be every interesting for all. My first question, why did YOU choose ZZZZZaron for Diva?
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This is a great idea as I really have no clue about the associated costs and time/demands it takes. Keep us posted! Good Luck!
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I'll add mine as well. Well over 3k not counting everything before that in terms of health testing, showing, titling, training fees, progesterone testing, etc. etc. etc, and what not before flying to Germany, and Hara came up empty. Got rich off that last breeding LOL!
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For those of you who think breeding is easy, and a way to make money, I thought it would be interesting to post from start to finish about breeding a bitch. It might be interesting to know what the breeder goes through too as we care for our female while the next 9 weeks pass.
As many of you know, we decided to breed Diva to ZZZZZaron. Diva started her heat cycle (bleeding) on July 11th. We started progesterone testing on that day. Progesterone testing varies, but for me working at a place with our own vet clinic, I get everything at cost. In this case, $30.00 per test. The initial test, I have a full blood panel run with it - liver, thyroid, brucella, etc., so the first one is $60.00. We tested every day until it started to rise last Wednesday and then also started the LH test kits. $40. each time and we did 3. Diva peaked which means that she started ovulating on Thursday. At this point, we are up to $360.00 and of course that does not include all of her health testing to make sure she is fit to breed, like VWD, cardio, hips & elbows, etc. Add another $940. for that - total $1300.00.
So on Friday, I head up to Oregon. I got a late start so ended up staying in Redding overnight. As I was leaving Redding the next morning, just getting on the on ramp for I-5, I hear a pop, and there goes my rear tire. I call our roadside assistance and they come out and put the spare on for me, which of course, has never been used and is much bigger than the remaining tires. The guy tells me that I need to go buy the correct size tire immediately. When I get to the tire place, I find out I need 4 new tires as they all need to match! I'm not even to the stud dog yet and so far, I have a hotel room, gas, and 4 new tires. Add another $1200.00!
Now I get to Oregon and have a hotel room there and need to pay the stud fee - $1500.00. We breed Diva starting Saturday and finish on Monday morning. Bonnie is kind enough to take me out to dinner one night and grill steaks for us the next so that cuts down on some of my food costs. BTW, Bonnie is the nicest lady on earth and I really enjoyed spending time with her and her fabulous dogs! She let me exercise all of mine at her place daily so they were not spending time in a cramped motel room.
With stud fee, 3 more tanks of gas to get home, food, and 2 more hotel nights, we spend $2200.00 while there.
Total for testing, the trip and breeding - $4700.00!

Now we wait 30 days and will do an ultrasound to see if the breeding took. I will add posts as we travel through the next (hopefully) 9 weeks to whelping. For now we are home safe and sound and will be waiting anxiously to see if this was all worth it!
Good post, I've known Bonnie for years and she is the best!!!

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and of course that does not include all of her health testing to make sure she is fit to breed, like VWD, cardio, hips & elbows, etc.
This thread should be retitled a "A RESPONSIBLE Breeder's Journal"!

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Now we wait 30 days and will do an ultrasound to see if the breeding took. I will add posts as we travel through the next (hopefully) 9 weeks to whelping. For now we are home safe and sound and will be waiting anxiously to see if this was all worth it!
Great that everyone is home safe and sound -- sending good luck wishes to that beauty Diva! I will definitely be logging on to check for updates, -- great thread!
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What a good thread, have no idea what goes into producing top quality puppies so will be really interested to follow this thread. most of us just get the easy bit of just buying the end result of someone elses dedicated hard work, definately a labor of love from the sounds of it!
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I think it is also important to factor in the time you spend making sure the breeding goes well. And then the time you spend worrying and watching as the pregnancy develops. And the time talking to potential owners.

Also, factor in any additional supplements or special foods you give your pregnant bitch.

There is alot that a reputable breeder does that we take for granted and do not think about as part and parcel to the breeding.

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You can even start earlier than that.

Cost of the initial puppy = 1500
Cost of feeding the dog over 3 years = 2000
Cost of private training x 2.5 years (close to me) = 3000 (this part is huge!)
Cost of joining PSC to supplement training = ~500 start up
Cost of driving to PHX once monthly to train = so far 800 (more than it used to)
Cost of trialing in SD, CA = 675 (ooohhh, that hurts as we failed obedience)
Cost of trialing at other venues = 300
Total = 8775 and that doesn't include ANY vet care, health testing, stud fees, puppy rearing.... oh god, now i think i have to sell my puppies for 2500 each to turn a profit


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I think this will be a very interesting thread to follow. Great Idea.

I would have to charge about 5,000 per puppy just to cover all of the gas I use going to training, trials, classes etc. Forget vet care, caring for a litter, stud fee, health testing......

Anyone interested in a $10,000 puppy? LOL.
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I think this will be a very interesting thread to follow. Great Idea.

I would have to charge about 5,000 per puppy just to cover all of the gas I use going to training, trials, classes etc. Forget vet care, caring for a litter, stud fee, health testing......

Anyone interested in a $10,000 puppy? LOL.
If he looks like Brownie, j/k. This is a great thread and goes to show that good breeders do it for more than money.
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This is wonderful!! Thank you!
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Wow! I had no idea just how well received this might be. I'm glad if it is helpful.
I don't think there is any way to put a dollar amount on training. You usually have several different club memberships and field fees. For us, that totals about $2500. per year. Our time practicing doesn't count.
Diva is not titled - unless you count her CGC and ATT.
Diva is the bitch that came back to us from her initial home when her parents got divorced. She was 2 years old then. She was the "pick" bitch from Spice's first litter with the Matson's Primo. After we bought her back and a couple of months of training, she was selected as a police dog candidate for the dept. my husband trains for. That's a whole story in itself, but basically, Diva completed 3 months of an academy and then just totally quit working 2 days before her certification. Unbeknowst to us, the handler was working her another 4 hours after each 8 hour day of the academy, and then a full 8 hours on what were supposed to be her days off. Diva worked 145 days straight without a break, other than when the handler was sleeping. The rest of their "down time" she spent riding around with him in the K-9 truck and going on calls as an unofficial police dog for "practice". She was suffering from complete physical exhaustion and the dept. decided to wash her for that. Oh well.
We gave her a couple of months off and then resumed working her in sport. She is currently trained in full as a dual purpose patrol/narcotics dog, and is ready for her SchH I. We'll start trialing after this litter. She will be 4 years old this year and we knew we wanted a litter from her, so the decision was made to go ahead and breed her this time. We felt we knew enough about her and her capabilities to forego the titles for now.
We chose ZZZZZaron for her for many different reasons. The breeding will be almost a complete outcross, so there's a chance we won't get what we want at all, but it was a chance I was willing to take.
It will bring some of the great working lines into our line without sacrificing conformation. Z compliments her in many ways. He is a bit long, Diva is square. He has a wonderful head, Diva is a bit weak in muzzle. They both have wonderfully deep chests and lots of bone. Z has a better front assembly and will hopefully bring improvement in that area for us. I could go on and on, but those are probably the main points.
Temperaments on both of these dogs are outstanding. Perhaps Diva has more drive than Z, but at 9 1/2 years old, I don't think I am seeing the same dog he was in his prime either. I've heard a lot of rumors and a lot of "working" people will hate this breeding, but I think it will produce some outstanding working dogs that also have real trainability and not just over the top drives. I think it will be very balanced in that regard.
Health and longetivity were very important to me too and I think that speaks for iteslf on both dogs.
Last but not least, to be honest there was an emotional aspect as well. I had a Bro son who was my "heart dog" and I see a lot of him in Z. Z is way better than my Diggs was in many ways, but I know the line well and have always admired it. I am one who believes that only the first 3 generations will really influence the pups and I really liked those dogs and felt I knew enough about them and what they have produced to do this breeding.
There is no way to put a dollar amount on the time one puts into researching pedigrees and thinking about who is the "right" dog for your bitch. For Diva, I spent the last 6 months, since the time I knew for sure I wanted to breed her, an average of 3 hours a day, researching and agonizing over stud dogs. You cannot always just use the dog you happen to own and who lives in your house. That would save a ton of time and money, wouldn't it? With all of the money I have spent on breedings this year, I could have gone and bought a titled "World Champion" and just bred him to all of my bitches, but where's the art in that? Those are my thoughts anyhow.
I have second guessed this breeding over and over and to be honest, there is probably one dog I would have chosen over Z and it would have given me more chance of "for sure" results (tight linebreeding) and have probably sold pups into working homes easier too, but I went with my gut and bred to Z anyway.
And I think that's another aspect of breeding dogs, you make the best choice you feel you can and still wonder if it was the right one until the dogs prove you right. That takes a ton of time and patience in itself.


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The Most Expensive Collar you ever bought? Why of course ..that very first show collar!

How it all began

In the Beginning...
You got your dog, a real show dog, and quickly realized
that you needed the correct collar to show him on.
Which in turn led you to that wonderful buttery smooth
three foot leather lead.
At your very first show, you noticed that you just HAD
to have the proper grooming supplies also.
Slicker Brush $9.00
Comb $10.00
Spray Bottle $4.00
Good Conditioner $15.00
Water Bottle $4.00
Pin Brush $15.00
Bait $10.00
NEW Collar (your dog has now out grown that first one)
$14.00
Chalk $9.00
Chalk Brush $15.00
Cholesterol $10.00
YOUR FIRST POINT.*****YOU'RE HOOKED********
Bait $10.00
Dog show calendar $12.00-don't wanna miss ANY shows now
By now you're beginning to realize the back seat isn't a
proper way to transport your dog.
Dog Crate for the car $80.00
At your very next show you begin to feel a bit more confident
and relaxed at dog shows
Borrowing and waiting to use your friends grooming table is so inconvenient.
Grooming Table $95.00
Grooming Arm $50.00
Bait $10.00
You begin to start collecting dog show things, old towels, skirts with pockets,
dresses with pockets,
Good comfortable shoes, rain gear, umbrellas, water jugs,
etc $100.00
Too many grooming supplies?
Tack Box for supplies $50.00
Good comfortable Camp Chairs $35.00-we seem to be spending
much more time at shows lately.
Suddenly you realize all of these items AND your dog don't
fit in the family car anymore.
Used Mini Van $15,000.
Somewhere around this point you get tired of waiting to use your friends blow dryer.
New blow dryer $150.00
Extension Cord for Dryer $15.00
Five-way plug for sharing electricity with your new dog show
friends $10.00
New and improved dog show collar and lead $40.00
New type of improved Coat Conditioner $15.00
Bait $10.00
Your friends favorite Shampoo and Whitener $35.00
New Comb and Slicker brush $25.00 (you lost the old ones at
the last show)
Scissors $30.00 (kitchen shears just don't trim those pads right)
Muddy Show grounds..Roll up mat for covering ground $45.00
YOUR DOG PICKED UP HER NINTH SINGLE

The hunt for majors begins.
After wasting much money on entries where majors didn't hold
you begin to get frustrated and search out and find that
new male show puppy and a perfect match for your female!
Crate for new dog $80.00
Show collar and lead for new dog $50.00 (your tastes have been refined now)
Handling classes for new dog $40.00
The very first show teaches you, your Mini Van will not
carry both crates and all your equipment.
Brand New Larger Mini Van $25,000.00
Now having two dogs to show and get ready quickly teaches
you a generator is required! Generator $325.00
Two Dog Kennels for outside $1,000.00
Just gotta pick up one of those majors on your female
Handler for those major shows $200.00 (+/-)
YOUR FEMALE FINISHES!
Your new male is too young to breed.
Updating & Health Clearances on Female $200.00
Stud Fee $1,000.00
Progesterone Testing $200.00
Whelping box $250.00
Vet bills-x-rays, sonograms, well mother checks $400.00
Putting first aid whelping kit together $300.00
Vaccines for new litter $150.00
X-pen for puppies $80.00
Whelping pads, fleeces, toys for puppies, weaning supplies,
etc $450.00
Baby Scale $45.00
Well puppy and mother exams $150.00
Spectacular puppy in litter will be new show dog.
Immediately realize Mini Van will NOT hold three dogs and
show equipment
Motor Home or Full size dog show van $30, 000 to
$100,000.00!!!!!!!!!
You suddenly realize you are eating macaroni and cheese
while your dogs are eating Human Grade Dog food at
$55.00 a bag.
Congratulations!
You have now earned the title of "Dog Breeder!"
Aren't you glad you are finally making those big bucks
breeding dogs?
So far you have invested $75,652.00 in showing your two dogs.

This figure does NOT include dog food, the initial cost of
your dogs, entry fees, motel bills, general vet bills,
toys and Many other ownership incidentals.
Your litter of pups yielded six puppies, you kept one and
sold the other five for $500.00 each.
Congratulations you just made $2,500.00 Breeding your dogs!

Now if you can just breed 30 or more litters you MAY just
break even with your initial investment of over $75,000!

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I'll add mine as well. Well over 3k not counting everything before that in terms of health testing, showing, titling, training fees, progesterone testing, etc. etc. etc, and what not before flying to Germany, and Hara came up empty. Got rich off that last breeding LOL!
Ha! I can sure relate to that! Attempting Jett's first breeding in the Czech Republic back in May cost just a little over $6K for our perfect air puppies! They are all beautiful show prospects who came out of the womb ready for SchH III, all are ZTP-V1A, excellent on all health testing, feed themselves, do their own nails, ears already cropped and standing perfect, and we don't have to change any messy papers! Best and easiest litter I've ever had. Patrick wonders if we've sold any yet - I told him yeah, but they paid with air checks.


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I think that this thread will be very interesting to watch. Thank you for posting it for all of us newbie's that not only haven't ever breed a litter but are currently owned by our first dobe.

I will look forward to the continuation of this thread with great interest.

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I really have to disagree with including the costs of the blown tires and new tires - this would have happened anyway somewhere else, and really can't be thrown into the breeding costs because it incidently happened on the way to breeding.

Otherwise, I can totally relate.

But I did have one thing to point out as well. I'm curious why you would do a thyroid test after the bitch has started into season? It is my understanding that the heat cycle can throw off the thyroid results as they are influenced by hormones, stress, illness, infection, etc. My vet has always stressed to do thyroid testing mid-cycle when nothing is really going on.
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I really have to disagree with including the costs of the blown tires and new tires - this would have happened anyway somewhere else, and really can't be thrown into the breeding costs because it incidently happened on the way to breeding.

Otherwise, I can totally relate.

But I did have one thing to point out as well. I'm curious why you would do a thyroid test after the bitch has started into season? It is my understanding that the heat cycle can throw off the thyroid results as they are influenced by hormones, stress, illness, infection, etc. My vet has always stressed to do thyroid testing mid-cycle when nothing is really going on.
You are probably right about the tires, but I did run over something in Redding so it might not have happened too. However, I hope that this thread doesn't end up being only about money but about what a person goes through in total. If that makes sense, I am not the worlds best writer.

Diva had already had MSU thyroid testing, I just always run a full panel initially to make sure there are no infections, anything weird, etc. I think you want to be sure that your bitch is at her healthiest and a full blood panel can sometimes reveal hidden issues.


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As soon as a bitch I intend to breed comes into season, I run a brucellosis test along with a CBC and liver/kidney panels so I agree with you about making sure she's at her healthiest. I just think you're throwing money out the window on a thyroid test at that time.

Anyway, regarding the tire incident, I read another accounting of breeding expenses on another board some time ago and the woman incurred a speeding ticket on her way to the stud dog and she was including that as a breeding expense. Uh, no - that was her (stupid) choice!

Heaven knows I've had my share of vehicle problems on the way to shows, at trials, on the way to training and on stud dog trips but in no way do I consider them to be a part of my breeding expenses. I realize that on the one hand, we buy vehicles with the dogs in mind that are probably bigger than what we need otherwise. Gas for these trips, sure. Tolls, sure. But I just don't classify breakdowns and/or accidents as breeding expenses. They are just a normal part of driving, IMO. Someone ripped the side mirror of our truck at the national in Texas but I don't think of that as a show expense. Yes, I was in Texas for the show but it was just vandalism that could have happened anywhere.
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Incedibledobes, you obviously put a LOT of thought into your choice of stud for Diva's litter. Did you ever take a look at Botrina's litter sired by Z ? It was also a total outcross. Nice litter! Other breeders questioned her choice of stud too, but she KNEW exactly why she chose him for her girl. I look forward to seeing the results of all this.
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As soon as a bitch I intend to breed comes into season, I run a brucellosis test along with a CBC and liver/kidney panels so I agree with you about making sure she's at her healthiest. I just think you're throwing money out the window on a thyroid test at that time.

Anyway, regarding the tire incident, I read another accounting of breeding expenses on another board some time ago and the woman incurred a speeding ticket on her way to the stud dog and she was including that as a breeding expense. Uh, no - that was her (stupid) choice!

Heaven knows I've had my share of vehicle problems on the way to shows, at trials, on the way to training and on stud dog trips but in no way do I consider them to be a part of my breeding expenses. I realize that on the one hand, we buy vehicles with the dogs in mind that are probably bigger than what we need otherwise. Gas for these trips, sure. Tolls, sure. But I just don't classify breakdowns and/or accidents as breeding expenses. They are just a normal part of driving, IMO. Someone ripped the side mirror of our truck at the national in Texas but I don't think of that as a show expense. Yes, I was in Texas for the show but it was just vandalism that could have happened anywhere.
I think your point is very valid and you are right, it could have happened anyway. so, deduct $800. from the trip cost.
We may be thinking of different thyroid tests. You can run a T4 pretty easy as part of the initial blood panel, which won't tell you anything about thyroid health in general, but will tell you that levels are good enough or not to sustain pregnancy. As you probably know, low thyroid levels can contribute to the bitch not taking or being able to sustain the pregnancy. At least, that is what our reproductive specialist tells me. Therefore, I think it doesn't hurt and if they are really low, then you put a stop to your breeding plans and wait until she is out of season to recheck with more definitive tests. At least, that is what I have always done. Mind you, we have only bred 6 litters so I'm sure there are more experienced opinions out there.


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Incedibledobes, you obviously put a LOT of thought into your choice of stud for Diva's litter. Did you ever take a look at Botrina's litter sired by Z ? It was also a total outcross. Nice litter! Other breeders questioned her choice of stud too, but she KNEW exactly why she chose him for her girl. I look forward to seeing the results of all this.
Thank you! Bonnie kept telling me about the Botrina litter and how fabulous it was, but I did not know it was an outcross! This is great news! Let's hope he clicks as well with my girl. Bonnie was going to show me pictures of the pups, but we got to talking so much about everything under the sun, that we both forgot! I will have to ask her to e-mail them to me. Bonnie and I both felt confident that this was a good choice for Diva and of course, she also felt it was a good choice for Z. I don't think she would breed to a bitch she didn't feel was right for her dog. She puts a lot into her dogs and her line and I really respect this about her.


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The events of early pregnancy are not many - so not much to post yet. Saturday will mark the end of Diva's first trimester.
We have just finished an awful week of morning sickness, and her not eating most of her meals! That is so scary when you are hoping your girl is pregnant, but is completely normal. She was only eating about half of her food at each meal, and since she only gets 3 cups a day total, it doesn't seem like they are ever getting enough!
But then yesterday, she ate all of her breakfast and dinner and was all of a sudden back to being miss piggy as she usually is. Last evening after dinner, she was barking at me to share my dinner with her. Being the terrible dog mom that I am, I left a little and set the plate down on the floor for her to clean - shhh, don't tell Patrick! He hates when I do bad things like this.
She has been going to work with me every day and is spending a lot of time sleeping. I think I can notice a bit of difference in her nipples, but there is no way to really tell - sometimes wishful thinking gets the better of you!
Her ultrasound is scheduled for the 18th, so we will know more then.
At this time, if she is indeed pregnant, the embryos will be implanting in the uterus and so we will limit her activity for the next few days. This is a very delicate time for the babies and so it is best not to have the female doing anything to strenous. We will get back to regular exercise once through this phase. Exercise and maintaining a healthy weight are extremely important both for a healthy litter and for the whelping itself. An overweight bitch may have issues whelping her pups.


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