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Old 02-09-2013, 07:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, glad I was able to find a uk section : )

I'm looking for some advice with regards to my dobies. I bought my female Brandi first. She developed anxiety problems as she grew extremely close to me almost immediately. A dog trainer I used to hire suggested after various methods were tried to buy a companion dog. We did this and whilst she is still close to me she also grew close to my boy. We have since found a lump on my boy and after researching have found very harrowing information. Another male dobe of the same age (3) had a lump that sounds exactly the same as my boys and appeared in the same manner. It turns out he had a malignant sarcoma tumor. I understand it may not be the same but that is not the first case I have read. My main question is what do I do about my girl if worse comes to worse??? My family have never had a dog that has lived for a year after a companion pack member passed away. So I might not be losing one dog as I may lose both. Perhaps I'm being too pessimistic at the moment but I just want to be prepared for the worst of outcomes. What can I do to help her mourn?

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Old 02-09-2013, 11:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ohh honey. Go back outside and unhook that cart from the front of that horse and make a vet appointment. Lets start there and then we will be with you the rest of the way.

What kind and how old is the boy and tell us more about the lump?


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Hi and welcome, I agree with the above don't panic - get your boy checked out by the vet first as the lump could be caused by a number of things and not all lumps are deadly, my poor girl has lots of large size of tennis ball lumps which are just fatty tissue.
So easy to worry about our pups though, let us know how you get on at the vets.
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definitely needs checking, my mates EBT has a lump on his neck, its been there for 4 years and vets have said its nothing but tissue

Also theres nothing to suggest that your bitch will just give up if the other dog does go, how old is the bitch?
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Don't panic!! Lumps can be lots of things, dobes are prone to fatty tissue lumps. It does need to be checked out though, just pop along to your vet who will be able to send it for analysis and tell you what is is.

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He does have a vets appointment but they could not fit me in at an appropriate time til the end of the month. So of course I'm sat here twiddling my thumbs and of course in a bit of a panic. We thought it might be a fatty lump but of course Google helped me come to the worst conclusions possible. I really hope it is just that but I guess I won't really know until I get to see the vet. Thanks for trying to reassure though. Hopefully they will contact me with a cancellation before the 27th.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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My dobe boy is 3yrs 1mth and my girl is 4yrs 1mth. I had a Jack Russel who died when she was 17 but my boxer was 5, she died just after her 6th birthday, under a year after my Jack passed away. The vet said there was nothing he found to attribute to her cause of death and he put it down to mourning for my other dog.

I did think he may be having some problems due to his mother being a blue. I know they suffer with various problems.
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Did you have a necropsy performed on your Boxer?

With the exception of the potential for some skin and coat issues, dilute Dobermans do not have any particular problems that are due to dilution. Having a dilute dam would not be a risk factor for anything at all.
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm not sure about that, my mother dealt with everything as I was a lot younger. I would have to ask her what was done and what was not done. All I remember is going to get her and the vet saying that he found nothing. It could be that that was not performed, like I said my mother dealt with it.

As to the question about the lump, it is solid, you can not move it from where it is positioned. It came up very very quickly. One day he looked fine the next my husband and I noticed a huge lump probably between the size of a golf ball and a tennis ball. Sometimes it's hard to notice because of the light shining on his coat. You have to be at a specific angle to prevent light glare. My first question was had he been hurt at all. But that was not the case, then I thought is it an abscess but could see no signs of a cut or any scabbing. Then we thought fatty lump as he is on the large side for a dobe, so I started researching if dobes were prone to getting lumps. I started coming across cases of young male dobes that fit the bill. I am thinking the worst possible because when a vet says to me, "it's just fatty tissue", I can feel a little stupid but really relieved, whereas if I'm too optimistic and they tell me it's something serious, I will be devastated and even more so if I don't prepare myself for that outcome.
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Not all lumps are cancerous, malignant tumours etc, etc which means not all lumps are bad.

Sometimes a lump is a lump and that is that. It can be fatty tissue, it can be fluid, trust me fluid can feel hard as I found our recently myself when my doctors found I had cysts.

Try get your boy to the Vet sooner rather than later, honestly if you are that worried tell your vet you want him to see him now and I bet he will find an appointment slot especially if you say if he cannot you will be looking for a new vet.

As for your girlie mourning your boy, wait until you know what you are dealing with before you start thinking about this. If worst comes to the worst then you can plan around helping your girl come to terms with his loss by perhaps thinking about getting another dog before he goes, so that the loss is not so keenly felt.

When my old Mastif passed away, my 2 Terriers whom she had raised from being 5 week old pups were devastated by her loss, however, they had my Boxer girlie to turn too for comfort, which meant they coped pretty well.
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Ohh honey. Go back outside and unhook that cart from the front of that horse and make a vet appointment. Lets start there and then we will be with you the rest of the way.

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This post made me drop my coffee! LOL.

Hope your boy is ok, lumps can be anything. Have it checked.

I would suggest an obedience class for your dog with anxiety. Most of the time it is learned behavior and you might need to change how you handle her. Without seeing the pacifics, I don't know but a trainer in your area should help. Best to ya.
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This post made me drop my coffee! LOL.

Hope your boy is ok, lumps can be anything. Have it checked.

I would suggest an obedience class for your dog with anxiety. Most of the time it is learned behavior and you might need to change how you handle her. Without seeing the pacifics, I don't know but a trainer in your area should help. Best to ya.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I know have not been on for ages so thought I would update you guys.
With regards to my girl we have had 4 different home trainers and she has been to 2 of the local dog training classes. But I was unhappy with the way my dog was handled. We don't have a lot of options for obedience classes in my area and you have to be exceptionally careful which is why I prefer trainers that come to my home plus they get to see what she is like around the home. I also agree it is a learned behaviour, it's partly because she was not crate trained and was allowed to roam the home freely. she is much better since keeping her in one area. She is allowed in other parts of the house but only at my invitation.

As for my boy, in the week leading up to his vet appointment which was Wed 27th Feb we discovered another lump on his hind leg the same side as his original lump. He has always been a big boy and we noticed he had lost a great deal of weight, his waist was much more defined but it looked like he had lost muscle on his hind leg as well. He has actually put some weight on according to the vet, and while everyone will say they are supposed to have a nice waistline, my vet agrees with me that it is not normal for my dog. Especially since his diet has not changed and his exercise has not increased or differed. He had a needle aspiration done on both lumps, 4 samples were taken from the big. Lump and 2 from the smaller lump. I had to wait til today for the results, his big lump shows fatty cells but they are not completely happy with the results. His smaller lump is a sarcoma. They are going to do a biopsy and sarcoma removal on Friday 8th March. So just one week to go, there is also talk that he may need radiotherapy but we will cross that bridge after they perform surgery to see if they can remove it all.
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Oh I'm sorry for this diagnosis All the best for you and your boy!
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I'm very sorry to hear the results were not what we were hoping for. Don't be surprised when you see the incision, cause it will be much larger than what one would expect.

Try to remain positive and happy for your boy. He needs to be happy and upbeat during all this. Attitude can make a huge difference.

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Yeah I have been forewarned about how much they have to remove. The lump on his hind leg is slightly smaller than a ping pong ball which is why they are not sure if there is enough there to remove it all. Again I just gotta wait and see : ( not sure what the biopsy part is going to look like though. All I can say is thank God I have insurance otherwise I would be in a very tricky spot. Thanks for your support, it is well and truly appreciated.
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I will try and get some, if he stays still long enough : )
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Hi all,
Well Ryker had his op on Friday but he had to stay in overnight because he was in a lot of pain. So he was back home as of this morning : ) They did not perform the biopsy as they could not find a definitive place to take a biopsy from, so they will be closely monitoring that lump over the next 4mths or so. As he is well muscled in that area they did not want to cut through all the muscle to find the best spot especially as he already had the wound on his leg. Quite an impressive incision line. I have a pic that I will attempt to put on here. Am absolutely ecstatic that he is back home even though I am still a little concerned about the original lump on his back but time shall tell. Just got to wait and see now if they have removed the sarcoma with good margins, fingers crossed that its all gone. Thanks for all the support : )


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Oh wow!!! That is a huge incision, but it looks really nice and clean.

Give him a kiss on the forehead from me, poor baby.

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