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Old 01-11-2010, 10:55 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok, interupting the guestioning.. with one of my own.. My jack hes like 9 weeks and can walk on the leash good. either to the side of me or behind me.. But how do i get him to not stop dead and wont budge when he doesnt want to go somewheres.. will he out grow this stage? cause i take him up to my daughter school every night to pick her up and he wont walk up there fully on his own.. but when my dughter comes out he will head to the truck on his own with no issues.. its like he doesnt want to be there and is gladly and more then willingly to go back to the truck...
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Kohaku used to do that too at a particular spot on our walks. Try finding another way around or a wide pass. You can also do some training to distract the dog and get it through the area. Bribes also might work, but best to walk slowly with him. I used to do these things, also used to; hold him around his chest and walk him on his back legs, holding him under the chin next to his neck and another hand over his back on his shoulder(touching seemed to reassure him I was still there), if need be just walk quickly or even run and just keep going(distracted him).
Did anything happen in that area? Could you two just sit around that area and let him slowly explore, toss treats around and let him go on his own(long leash) to get them?
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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How did you teach your Doberman to not pull on a leash? Any particular methods did you use?
At what age did you start to see any improvements? How often do they need reminders?
What type of collar and leash do you use? (prong, harness, flexi, etc)
What distractions are the hardest to overcome?
Are there any particular situations that you find more difficult to walk in than others? (Large crowds, parks, other dogs around)

I started walking her as soon as I got her and I dont really recall her pulling on it hard. I went to training class and my trainer does not like the halti or choke but recommends the prong. For one week we were to give her the full length of the leash and right before she was going to run out of leash and pull you give a quick pop (gently not to hard) this is 4 blocks for one week, then one week 4 blocks with half length leash, and then shorten it to where she is on your side. Then we used pilons to weave in and out of and give the command heel with the use of treats which we phased out. My girls biggest distraction is other dogs she wants to play so bad. She does great in large crowds b/c there is so much going on she cant focus on one thing.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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My Dobbie pulls like hell when we start of for our walk, like the two before her she won't take any notice about walking to heal.

Have tried all sorts of collars, (except the prongs which I think are disgusting and should be banned throughout the world, they are not even on sale in the UK) and none work.

However, once we have got to the Beach which is about four minutes from my home and she has had a run, she walks perfect on a flexi lead.

Would love someone to tell me how I can stop her pulling at first but don't think it's possible.
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My Dobbie pulls like hell when we start of for our walk, like the two before her she won't take any notice about walking to heal.

Have tried all sorts of collars, (except the prongs which I think are disgusting and should be banned throughout the world, they are not even on sale in the UK) and none work.

However, once we have got to the Beach which is about four minutes from my home and she has had a run, she walks perfect on a flexi lead.

Would love someone to tell me how I can stop her pulling at first but don't think it's possible.

I used to think this about prongs too. But have you ever tried a prong on yourself? The other day, while visiting the pet store, I put it on my arm and asked my boyfriend to give it a good tug. There was pressure, but it didn't *hurt*. No sharp pain like I've felt with the choke chain collars...it literally pinched me! Just pressure. I can't imagine choking yourself with a nylon, leather, or chain collar feels any better!

I think the choke chain collars are meant for for quick correction when teaching the dog to walk on a leash. A slight but quick tug on the leash causes the chain to pinch the dogs neck, feeling much like the bite correction given by their mothers. I'm no expert on the subject, but it seems to me like the prong collars teach the dog not to pull so much, because if it pulls, it feels the pressure of the collar. The prongs are more effective than a nylon or leather flat collar because yes, the dog CAN feel the pressure from the prongs. That's why its used as a training type collar, to teach the dog that if it pulls, it won't feel too great. ((Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm open to education!))

I found this to be a great article regarding the prong collar
The Prong Collar Revisited

Not trying to change your mind, I just think that people (myself included!) are quick to judge things they don't fully understand. I'd hate to be called cruel for using a valuable training tool on my dog!
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I got Ziva at eight weeks old and immediately started leash training. She was such a joy on a leash--for about a month. Then she discovered the fun of "pulling". She is now 4 months old, and I have just recently started using a Gentle Leader head halter with her during training classes, and on short walks. I make absolutely certain that she only has enough leash to stay beside me, not lag behind or run in front of me when she is wearing the gentle leader device. It helps. Her pulling stays at a minimum level, but still doesn't totally disappear altogether. I am hoping that we can eventually stop using this training tool and just go with a flat buckle collar, but while she is still this young, I dont see that happening.
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