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What should I use to make my dogs coat shine in the show ring ?

I've been searching the threads and multiple online sites that carry dog coat shine sprays and I'm still no closer to finding a shine spray for my Bronson ... I'm looking for any and all suggestions ... What's the best stuff out there ?
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I was told to use the olive oil hair spray - comes in a large, green spray can in the curly haired section of Wal-Mart, Walgreens. I spray that on and then wipe down with a towel. I also have a boar-bristle mitt for the terriers that I rub Chase down with - it supposedly brings oil to the surface of the coat.


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I was told to use the olive oil hair spray - comes in a large, green spray can in the curly haired section of Wal-Mart, Walgreens. I spray that on and then wipe down with a towel. I also have a boar-bristle mitt for the terriers that I rub Chase down with - it supposedly brings oil to the surface of the coat.
Lol ... That's what I'm currently using ... But I always see the pro handlers with some sort of liquid spray in a spray bottle and was wondering if there's something better ?
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I don't like to put a lot of shinola stuff on my dog's coat. I think if you're at a long show weekend, lots of dogs wind up getting hives because that crap gets sprayed on them day after day without ever getting washed off. It gets in their pores and causes problems.

I'm big on a good diet being the best thing to produce a shiny coat. Most of the time I just spritzer dogs with water right before they go into the ring, then wipe them down, to get off any dust or stress dandruff.

If you're going to use anything like that, I'd recommend the Olive Oil moisturing spray for humans you find in Sally Beauty supply and similiar places. Dang, I used to have a can of it, but can't find it, and can't remember the exact name. But they'd know what it is at Sally's.

Or EQyss makes a spray on moisturizer for horses that also works very well and won't cause any issues. PREMIER REHYDRANT SPRAY 32oz.
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Lol ... That's what I'm currently using ... But I always see the pro handlers with some sort of liquid spray in a spray bottle and was wondering if there's something better ?
Ooh, I hope someone chimes in about this mysterious liquid spray!! I want to try it!!


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Ooh, I hope someone chimes in about this mysterious liquid spray!! I want to try it!!
A lot of the stuff like that is silicone based and IS NOT good for the dog's coat on a long term basis.
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Show Sheen. Made for horses, works great on smooth coated dogs. This is the mysterious spray that many handlers use.
I have never seen issues with it, such as hives. However, we don't use it long term and we use it diluted and in very small amounts. (Just a very light spritz).
It really isn't needed for shine -- a good diet does that, but it is very effective (along with a microfiber cloth) in removing dust and stress dandruff.

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I use Isle of Dogs Primrose Oil and many of the TOP dogs use this. I have used it for two years now and LOVE it.

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While by dog show experience is limited, I've shown horses all my life and firmly believe the shine comes from the inside. Anything you spray on is either going to collect dirt and dust or be silicone based which makes them slick and dries the coat out.

Fish oil or flax seed would be my recommedations.

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Or EQyss makes a spray on moisturizer for horses that also works very well and won't cause any issues. PREMIER REHYDRANT SPRAY 32oz.
Awesome, thanks! I think I'll grab some of this and try it. I have some Show Sheen for my horse, but I like how this is a little more "natural."


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Show Sheen. Made for horses, works great on smooth coated dogs. This is the mysterious spray that many handlers use.
I have never seen issues with it, such as hives. However, we don't use it long term and we use it diluted and in very small amounts. (Just a very light spritz).
It really isn't needed for shine -- a good diet does that, but it is very effective (along with a microfiber cloth) in removing dust and stress dandruff.
That's it ! Same bottle and everything ... It's worth a try and since I have decided to handle Bronson myself I'll need all the help I can get ! Our first show is this weekend !
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Show sheen is not good for the coat on horses or dogs. I hate the stuff.

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The show folk that I hang around use carbonated water sometimes Then again, they are pom people! lol

I've read that you can use an olive oil based spray to help give sheen, but with smooth coated breeds, a good diet and cod liver oil should be sufficient.

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Im going to try the fish oil caps again .... Bronson didnt do so well on them at first ... guess its time for another try ... I have him on Wellness now but his coat doesnt seem to have enough shine to it ...Fish oil caps it is ...
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Show sheen is not good for the coat on horses or dogs. I hate the stuff.
I hate it, too.
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That's it ! Same bottle and everything ... It's worth a try and since I have decided to handle Bronson myself I'll need all the help I can get ! Our first show is this weekend !
if you are going to use showsheen, you need to bath the dog everyday after you use it, as it will collect every speck of dust over night if you do not and the next day your dog will look very dull.

Most handlers I know just use water to lightly spritz the coat with before they go in.

One of the other posters in a different thread recommend a hot oil treatment with the bath, which may work better in this case.

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A lot of the breeders and show people have success with Pro Plan. Not sure if you've ever fed it to Bronson.

I agree that shine comes from within



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Im going to try the fish oil caps again .... Bronson didnt do so well on them at first ... guess its time for another try ... I have him on Wellness now but his coat doesnt seem to have enough shine to it ...Fish oil caps it is ...

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For Coat Care I Found this in The Doberman Digest Magazine Jan./Feb. issue
Spray coat with water-filtered or bottled
Wipe with microfiber cloth
Brush thoroughly to stimulate skin and remove the flaky skin
Wipe again with microfiber cloth
Spray with coat spray and work into the coat
Brush with soft brush-Kiwi Shoe Brush

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24 oz Spray Bottle
Listerine- 1 in
Alpha Keri or CVS Shower & Bath Oil-.5 in
Any Human Hair Conditioner- 2 in
Add Water (filtered or bottled) and fill to the top ring
Depending on condition of coat, it can be done daily to get the coat in condition and then weekly to maintain
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I do not spray anything on my dogs either. (My handler would kill me LOL)
Microfiber towels work great for wiping them down before they go in the ring.

If they are at all flaky - Baby wipes also help pick up dandruff

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Also a good dog food, brush with kiwi shoe brush and i use k9 show stopper supplement in their food.
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I know a good diet should do wonders, but I'm very curious as I don't know much about coat care- does anyone have a picture of two dogs next to each other (I say this because comparing two different pictures with completely different lighting would really mean nothing) one on a really high quality diet, and one on a lower quality food, where its visible the effects a quality diet can have on a coat.

I know there will always be other variables on why one dog would have a nicer coat than another, genetics et cetera, but I'd be very interested if someone has an example of two dogs whose differences in coats could be explained by their diets.

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I'll second or third the olive oil spray. That stuff makes them shine like it's no one's business.
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Show sheen is not good for the coat on horses or dogs. I hate the stuff.
I've owned and showed horses for years and I don't use show sheen either. Quick fix but not good for the condition of the coat.

My Alfred dog has a great coat (people always comment on how shiny he is) and I supplement his meals with scrambled egg. My vet calls it the "egg shine."
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Also - if you bathe your boy the night before, do a final rinse with diluted apple cider vinegar, the organic kind. That really seems to increase shine for me.

Ziggy's breeder uses some kind of oil spray they make for African American hair. They sell it at Walmart and it's very cheap, I think it comes in a pink can. A little goes a long way, if you try it, mist VERY lightly at a good distance, like two feet away.

One thing I've noticed about some of those sprays is that they can leave a bit of a greasy feeling. So I don't really like spraying them on right before you go in the ring because the judges have their hands all over the dog...

So usually what I do is bathe the night before a show - I use Isle of Dogs No. 33 Coarse Coat shampoo and #1 All Systems Protein Rich conditioner, which I leave on for at least five minutes, then a final apple cider vinegar rinse. That gets him really, really shiny and he usually stays that way for a couple days at least. Sometimes I spray on a light mist of Cherrywood coat dressing and gently rub it in while he's still WET so it doesn't have a weird feeling on his coat.


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