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05-04-2008, 01:51 PM
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Location: Long Island NY Dogs Name: Reno(JRT) Vegas(Dobe) Roulette (Dobe) Titles: Reno-Couch potato.. Vegas-CGC, TDI and Goofball...Roulette-Queen of the house Dogs Age: 6/14/03, 1/26/07, 11/27/07
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| Limited registration and showing Roulette is just 5 mnths old and she has a limited registration. Of course I do not intend to breed her so that's fine. My question is if I decide that I may want to show her at local shows, for experience and fun, can I???
There is a match show next weekend I plan to attend with her to watch, my friend that used to show dobermans and minpins expressed interest in possibly entering her in the match show. It has been years since my friend was in the show ring so she is not sure of the rules with limited registration. Can anyone shed some light on this subject?? I'm guessing that the match show won't matter however, if I want to put her in some AKC shows I was unsure do to her registration. |
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05-04-2008, 01:55 PM
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| | Alpha | Dogs w/ limited registration cannot be shown in AKC conformation events as the point of those is to evaluate breeding stock. They can, however, compete in any of the other events. Limited Registration |
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05-04-2008, 01:58 PM
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Location: Long Island NY Dogs Name: Reno(JRT) Vegas(Dobe) Roulette (Dobe) Titles: Reno-Couch potato.. Vegas-CGC, TDI and Goofball...Roulette-Queen of the house Dogs Age: 6/14/03, 1/26/07, 11/27/07
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| Thanks Reddobes, I was looking for that on the AKC site but missed it. That's what I was leaning towards. Are the match shows ok? For conformation? |
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05-04-2008, 01:58 PM
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| What exactly is the 'limited' registration? Do you mean she is on a non-breeding agreement? I know of no registration that would exclude you from showing your dog {except if she is spayed then she cannot be shown in conformation events}but in all other venues an altered dog can be entered. |
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05-04-2008, 02:05 PM
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Location: Long Island NY Dogs Name: Reno(JRT) Vegas(Dobe) Roulette (Dobe) Titles: Reno-Couch potato.. Vegas-CGC, TDI and Goofball...Roulette-Queen of the house Dogs Age: 6/14/03, 1/26/07, 11/27/07
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| Her AKC papers state limited registration and any litters from her cannot be registered with the AKC. When I got her I explained to the breeder that I do not wish to breed, I had planned on doing obedience, CGC, rally and maybe agility. This conformation subject just came up and is still up in the air. |
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05-04-2008, 03:04 PM
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| if you are interested in possibly showing in conformation, I would contact the breeder and ask them about it. It is possible to change back to a full registration with the breeders permission, but they would have to agree to that.
I'm not sure about match shows, and you might want to contact the AKC about that. I would guess that the answer might be "no" - but since no points are awarded, I'm not sure.
I will say that if you just want to learn how to handle, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from taking her to a show handling class - that might be a very good alternative for you. One of my kids takes my spayed bitch to a handling class - she shows her in Jr Handling.
If at some point you are interested in conformation showing, having learned with the dog you have and then doing performance sports like obedience with the dog you have is going to help you a lot when it comes to finding a good breeder to buy your first conformation dog from. Breeders like people who do stuff with their dogs.
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05-04-2008, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DLS What exactly is the 'limited' registration? Do you mean she is on a non-breeding agreement? I know of no registration that would exclude you from showing your dog {except if she is spayed then she cannot be shown in conformation events}but in all other venues an altered dog can be entered. | Here's the specific quote from the AKC website "A dog registered with an AKC Limited Registration shall be ineligible to be entered in a breed competition in a licensed or member dog show. It is eligible, however, to be entered in any other licensed or member event. These events include: Obedience, Tracking, Field Trials, Hunting Tests, Herding, Lure Coursing, Agility and Earthdog."
I think the reason they can not be shown in conformation is because they are, for all intents and purposes out of the gene pool and conformation events are supposed to be for determining the best breeding candidates.
Also as far as the matches go--if it is an AKC A or B match you should not show a dog on limited registration as all of the AKC regulations are supposed to apply. But there are matches around that are not held under AKC regs and for those she could certainly be shown.
If the owner wants to show in AKC events she needs to go to the breeder and see if the breeder will lift the limited registration--otherwise the bitch should probably be spayed. Her offspring, as a limited registered dog are not eligible to be registered. |
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05-08-2008, 12:13 PM
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Location: Barrie, Ontario Dogs Name: Grace, Rex, Anna, Abba Titles: Canadian Champion, faster eaters in North America, bed warmers Dogs Age: 4 years, 1 year, 2 months
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| In Canada registration is done differently, we have non-breeding contracts, but a dog can still be shown with this, many breeders here put all pups on them and then lift the non-breeding after conditions are met, such as putting on a title and getting health clearances.
but for a "match", if it's like our sanction matches, where you register the day of the event and don't have to produce registration information any dog can enter regardless of the registration info (sorry if that is confusing). the matches are meant as a learning tool, for aspiring judges. clubs getting accredited to hold shows, owner/handlers, and get pups exposure.
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