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Old 01-15-2013, 09:14 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I can assure you I learned a lot in my first two doberman purchases. I bought my first, Lexi(rip), from a lady in TX. I drove 13 hr round trip for a puppy who was not soialized to anything even tho the lady said she was to everything. She was fear aggressive and a handful to say the least. I couldnt even hardly walk her around the block. When she was 7 months old I was to the point that she pretty much had to be put away if someone was coming over. She became sick and died after having her only 5 months. I got her when she was 3 months and she died when she was 8 months. The amount of money I spent on her was well over $1500. The heartbreak was almost unbearable. Even with all the issues she had I had fallen head over heals in love with her. Thus taking me to my second girl, Kyrah. I love her dearly and wouldnt trade her for the world. Iworked with her diligently not wanting any of the issues Lexi had. Thus even with all that work she has/had isuse but I feel a lot of her issues IMO are from the way she was raised from when she was born. I know my next dog regardless of the breed will come from a reputable breeder or will be a rescue. I will not put money into any backyard breeders hands ever again!
Geezz..can you tell towards the end of my post Kyrah was insisting it was dinner time!! LOL
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:24 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Geezz..can you tell towards the end of my post Kyrah was insisting it was dinner time!! LOL
I thought you had too much of your own name.


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I just stopped at the pet store to get some food and they had some wickedly cute little fuzz ball mutts for $900.


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I'll bet they had some cutesy made up name, too. Because everyone knows that little fuzz ball mutts with cutesy made up names are more so much more expensive and desirable than cute little fuzz ball mutts without a cutesy made up name. And yes, that is sarcasm.
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Looking to buy a doberman, cost really isn't an issue. I was already told that bigdobermans.com are not that good. we are located in Lawton, ok. does anyone have recommendations for a breeder they already used in the past that I can contact for a puppy
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Greetings to all. I am a new member the forum and was going to buy a puppy from a first time breeder and ended up backing out of the deal for a number of reasons - mainly the situation didn't seem right, kept getting worse, and I felt VERY uncomfortable getting the pup from them even though I wanted him very badly. I apologize for the upcoming, possibly incoherent, babble but I have a lot of random thoughts regarding this issue/search and I promise I'm not trolling so please be kind to my random-thought babble.

Currently I am looking for a puppy at a reasonable price(~$1000) without having to sacrifice quality. I've been lurking in these forums, as well as others, and have come to the conclusion that most of the members only really support breeders that charge a ridiculous amount of money for a "pet" puppy. I've gone through the list on DPCA of breeders and contacted most of them in my area and I can't believe that they charge $1,500+ for a pet. A lot of the breeders in my area have titled dogs, Good/Excellent OFA ratings posted, vWD clear, etc which is great for the breed but NOT great for the consumer's pocket book. I understand that these breeders have spared no expense along with an invaluable amount of time to do the right thing by the breed but how can the average Joe afford to get one of these dogs as purely a pet?

Lets say, hypothetically, all the Z-factored dogs were gone and we finally get rid of that pesky vWD problem, and hips/elbows/eyes were all certified excellent... the best possible scenario for the Doberman. That would leave the basically the dogs of an even higher quality remaining that would drive the price up even further making the Doberman even more out of reach for the average person, right?

My question (sorry for the babble) what is considered an acceptable dog that doesn't come from a breeder that has basically run the gambit on their dogs? Is it wrong to buy from a breeder that has been breeding for x+ years, owns the dogs, knows the history of their dogs (life span/health issues/temperament, etc) does background/reference checks, and genuinely cares where the pup goes even though they may not have done health testing or any kind of titling?

Thanks again for any responses.
I didnt read the entire thread, so it is possible someone has already addressed this, but in my opinion and experience, this statement is not true. The reputable breeders out there who do the necessary testing, titling of their dogs, do so with the consumer's pocketbook clearly in mind. That is the reason they spend thousands of dollars testing, showing, titling their dogs, so that during the life of your "pet" you do not have to fork out thousands of dollars on vet bills to handle the health issues that poorly and cheap bred dogs have.

A dog from a backyard breeder can cost you many times more than the cost of a well bred pup from tested, titled parents. Vet bills for any number of genetic issues passed on from poorly bred dogs, or untested parents can run in the thousands. Ask some of the people on here who have had to deal with DCM. Bad temperaments are another issue which can be detrimental to a pups life. Issues like anxiety, hyperactivity, and the like can cost plenty in behaviourists when trying to deal with these issues, not to mention if they have to go on meds.

So, yes, tested, titled dogs are definitely good for the consumer's pocketbook, especially when thinking in the long term.
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