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Old 01-09-2013, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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At what age do females start marking?

So we are still in the midst of potty training, but lately I have been noticing what looks like marking.

She is not fixed yet, we want to let we get her other two shots and rabies before we fix her.

She is 12 weeks old, but she has been peeing various times in one trip outside and peeing on rugs, our other dog's bed and now my wife's blanket...

Is this marking or bad bladder control?
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This behavior is not normal of a healthy pup so I would take her to the vet. It sounds like a UTI.
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This behavior is not normal of a healthy pup so I would take her to the vet. It sounds like a UTI.
We already had her checked for all of that.
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Hmm my girl wasnt spayed till 7 months and we never had a problem like that, in fact she pretty much potty trained herself. If not let out you'd get a well placed pointed nose or large paw to the face haha. I would just watch her and keep her in sight treat her as if she knows nothing and take her out as often as possible.
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Females do not normally mark but they can, males mark more but usually around when they are sexually mature and when they lift their legs to pee. how long ago was girl girl checked for a UTI ( Urinary Tract Infection ) just because they do not have one does not mean they can not get one at the drop of a hat. Marking in my opinion is a house breaking issue.
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As said, females generally don't "mark", although some do. Normally marking comes with sexual maturity, so this is not a normal situation. Neither is multiple urinations in one walk, for a female. She may not yet have good bladder control, so try taking her out every half hour or so whenever this is feasible, and containing her to the kitchen (I'm not such a big fan of crates, but that's an option too)when she isn't directly under your watchful eye. Keep all doors in the house closed, so she can't access any but the main rooms, and use a lot of praise when she pees outside, and only verbal correction IF you catch her in the act of actually peeing - scoop her up and take her right outside then. Also, Dobes are VERY smart and learn words easily - we always tell ours "Go pee" when they are peeing as puppies, and they learn to pee on command that way - if I let ours out and tell them "go pee" and they don't, then I know they really don't have to. "Label" or describe everything for your puppy - she will learn all the words for everything you teach her.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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At such a young age, I'd have to say poor bladder control or excitement peeing, if she's been checked for a UTI.

My Dobie-girl, Bella, often had accidents at that age -- she's just a baby! Once she learned to pee outside ONLY (around the age of 16 weeks), she would still pee while I was opening the crate to let her out in the morning, when the dog walker came, and when let out after work -- and also when we had company and she got excited, as well as when she was playing. I was concerned why she hadn't outgrown that stage, and my vet said it's a developmental thing, and she'd grow out of it when she had better bladder control. She is 6 months now (well in 2 days she will be, lol) and she hardly does it anymore. Once in a great while, if I don't open the blinds and the locks on the doors fast enough, she will get excited and pee a very small amount, but it's nowhere near as frequent or as much as she used to.

I thought it was just Bella that was a little slow in gaining bladder control when excited, but when I got in touch with the owners of two of her sisters, I found out that they did it too (albeit to a lesser extent than she). I guess some mature and develop faster than others!

In your case, she's too young and immature to be "marking" so I would guess it's more excitement peeing than anything else. I wouldn't yell or "correct" her for doing it, either. You can say simply, "No pee-pees in the house." and leave it at that, since it's really not something she has control of yet, but at the same time, let her know this is not something you agree with, either... Until she is mature enough to hold it, just stock up on LOTS of paper towels and urine cleaning supplies. Nothing else you can do about it!
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Chloe had 6 accidents in a 2 hour period and would go outside and squat 3 or 4 times and not pee, so needless to say, we made an apt to see the vet tomorrow and get her checked out.

I really hope this isn't anything serious, it is really starting to sound like a UTI though. With the right meds, is it easier treatable?
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Chloe had 6 accidents in a 2 hour period and would go outside and squat 3 or 4 times and not pee, so needless to say, we made an apt to see the vet tomorrow and get her checked out.

I really hope this isn't anything serious, it is really starting to sound like a UTI though. With the right meds, is it easier treatable?
Antibiotics should clear her up. If she has had this long term it may take a longer course of antibiotics to clear up. Start her on Cranberry, it will help prevent future UTI's. This is very common in Female puppies.
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Antibiotics should clear her up. If she has had this long term it may take a longer course of antibiotics to clear up. Start her on Cranberry, it will help prevent future UTI's. This is very common in Female puppies.
Thank you for the advice. I don't think she has had it long, and the vet assistant over the phone said it may not be a UTI, especially since her ears are still really itching, she may be more focused on that than her potty training and bladder, I just don't understand the 6 accidents in two hours, she has never done that, not even when she was first brought home, which also may be why we haven't been seeing as much progression potty training that I have with past puppies.
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If she squatting many times with nothing coming out, I'd say UTI too. She may be straining because she feels like she has to pee, and yet her bladder is empty. Get her checked ASAP. If you take her to the vet, they'll draw the urine out of her bladder with a needle to see if there's an infection. However, I've collected urine samples myself and brought them in into the vet's office right away instead of putting them through that.

Let us know how that vet appointment goes! Good luck!
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My experience with Kyrah. When Kyrah was very young. She did have one UTI, was treated and did not test positive for it anymore. She just didnt have control over her urine it seemed. I knew something just wasnt right. She would be playing and in the middle she would squat and pee. She had so many accidents but was by far the smartest dog I have ever had. Big sign for me something was different. Just couldnt put my finger on it. I spayed her at 6 months. Then she became incontinent. IMO now I feel those were signs she was going to be incontient. Had I known I would have waited longer to spay her just in case it might have helped.
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We took her to the vet today ans she has a UTI plus a mild infection with the crop of her ears...

We have got antibiotics for both and should be good to go in 10 days.
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